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Re: Strange happenings when composing text in Apple Mail
On Feb 3, 2024, at 12:31?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
I just discovered something that might be reproducible, because this is happening to me fairly often: If I place the cursor at the very beginning of the “unwelcome” text?
AND, this morning I read that Apple has released an iOS 17.3.1 update that sounds as though it is an attempt to deal with exactly this issue, except that there’s no macOS update being released simultaneously. Even more curioser (grammar alert), I’ve yet to experience this issue on my iPhone, nor in any macOS application OTHER than Mail.
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Re: Email delivery stopped two days ago [SOLVED]
i understand gather that the domain is hosted on his (cloud) server where the MX records are resolved. The DNS there went offline, thus couldn't connect the domain and Google. This is the first such failure in approx 20 years (!) The danger of a repeat has been mitigated by adding extra DNS servers, he says.
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Re: Email delivery stopped two days ago [SOLVED]
What was the issue? Help the rest of us learn.?
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On Feb 7, 2024, at 05:26, HappyChris <chris@...> wrote:
?This issue was sorted out by my son who set the system up. I was reminded how much I have forgotten - or never understood in the first place. I’ll dig out my old copy of Tannenbaum (Networks) to learn some early stuff.
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Re: Email delivery stopped two days ago [SOLVED]
This issue was sorted out by my son who set the system up. I was reminded how much I have forgotten - or never understood in the first place. I’ll dig out my old copy of Tannenbaum (Networks) to learn some early stuff.
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I’ve tried caffeinate and similar tricks to keep uncooperative drives alive, but always with side effects that caused me to stop using them. For instance, the last time I tried Caffeinate, it caused the thumbnail on one of my HDD drives to constantly refresh on the desktop. Very annoying. Ironically this was not the drive I have spin down problems with. I use three HDDs routinely. Two don’t spin down with disk sleep 0 enable so they stay connected. That one ignores the setting and times out. I keep it unmounted but connected, and mount manually when I need it, which is infrequently enough that it’s not a major issue.?
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On Feb 6, 2024, at 2:17?PM, Bev in TX <countryone77@...> wrote:
On Feb 6, 2024, at 9:39?AM, todhop <hoplist@...> wrote:
I have never had a system where this setting wasn’t a problem, which is why I know the Terminal command for this:
I’ve had this setting off for years. Its implementation is terrible. It spins drives down constantly, increasing wear and tear, not decreasing it. If you have an SSD system drive and the OS is spinning down your external spinning drives, you offset your speed advantage as the OS is constantly waiting for the HDDs to spin up anytime you access the file system even if the HDD isn’t actually needed. It doesn’t know, so it spins it up. And by the way, your drives will spin down anyway when sleeping, eventually. Many modern externals will spin down on their own when idle, regardless of the OS, and many ignore the OS and spin constantly regardless.
That’s very interesting! ?This command is going into my notebook of useful macOS commands and I’ll be utilizing it because I do have some useful HDDs.
I saw a “caffeinate -m” command, but it doesn’t exit and keeps a window open. -m ? Create an assertion to prevent the disk from idle sleeping.
?I’m still not convinced as to whether it’s generally applicable to SSDs. ?The Crucial article only mentions this in conjunction with their SSDs. ?I’m waiting for a reply to my questions from Crucial. ?They did reply saying to turn “Put hard disks to sleep when possible” off, even though I told them the option doesn’t show up unless I have a HDD attached. ?So, I’ve repeated my question and am still waiting for a response.
-- Bev in TX
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Re: Internal Drive has become Unbootable
Hello Tony
I’m so very pleased to learn that you found the answer to your dilemma within the information which I sent to you.
My apology for not being more ‘hands on’ but I was busy doing other things at the time.
I cannot really emphasise more the need to keep back-up copies of your data. Nowadays, though, I also keep everything I don’t want to lose on the Apple iCloud.? So far, I’ve always been able to download it again from there!
My warmest regards
David
PS Copied to another on-line friend who may be unaware of this io group!
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On 6 Feb 2024, at 18:22, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:
David,
I did arrive on the other side with some good news using Internet Recovery Mode which I never knew existed before following the instructions on the page that you provided for me. I wasn’t given the option however to reinstall Ventura on the drive. I had to upgrade to Sonoma which is something I needed to do at any rate. Thank you for relaying that information from?.
I suspect that this may be an indication that the drive may be showing early signs of failing. I never had good experiences with internal drives in iMac’s. Eventually a couple of them would fail which I've never had happen in laptops or towers. I’m considering the purchase of another backup drive, possibly a RAID, as insurance in case this internal drive does fail.
Thank you again … much appreciated!
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You are most welcome, Tony! ?
David =========================== On 5 Feb 2024, at 19:55, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:
David,
Many thanks for directing me to that page. Its very comprehensive and intense. I’ll share my results when I get the other side!
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Hi Tony
You may like to take a look here:-
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Good luck!
David
On Feb 6, 2024, at 9:39?AM, todhop <hoplist@...> wrote:
I have never had a system where this setting wasn’t a problem, which is why I know the Terminal command for this:
I’ve had this setting off for years. Its implementation is terrible. It spins drives down constantly, increasing wear and tear, not decreasing it. If you have an SSD system drive and the OS is spinning down your external spinning drives, you offset your speed advantage as the OS is constantly waiting for the HDDs to spin up anytime you access the file system even if the HDD isn’t actually needed. It doesn’t know, so it spins it up. And by the way, your drives will spin down anyway when sleeping, eventually. Many modern externals will spin down on their own when idle, regardless of the OS, and many ignore the OS and spin constantly regardless.
That’s very interesting! ?This command is going into my notebook of useful macOS commands and I’ll be utilizing it because I do have some useful HDDs.
I saw a “caffeinate -m” command, but it doesn’t exit and keeps a window open. -m ? Create an assertion to prevent the disk from idle sleeping.
?I’m still not convinced as to whether it’s generally applicable to SSDs. ?The Crucial article only mentions this in conjunction with their SSDs. ?I’m waiting for a reply to my questions from Crucial. ?They did reply saying to turn “Put hard disks to sleep when possible” off, even though I told them the option doesn’t show up unless I have a HDD attached. ?So, I’ve repeated my question and am still waiting for a response.
-- Bev in TX
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Re: Internal Drive has become Unbootable
David,
I did arrive on the other side with some good news using Internet Recovery Mode which I never knew existed before following the instructions on the page that you provided for me. I wasn’t given the option however to reinstall Ventura on the drive. I had to upgrade to Sonoma which is something I needed to do at any rate. Thank you for relaying that information from .
I suspect that this may be an indication that the drive may be showing early signs of failing. I never had good experiences with internal drives in iMac’s. Eventually a couple of them would fail which I've never had happen in laptops or towers. I’m considering the purchase of another backup drive, possibly a RAID, as insurance in case this internal drive does fail.
Thank you again … much appreciated!
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On Feb 5, 2024, at 2:57?PM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
You are most welcome, Tony! ?
David =========================== On 5 Feb 2024, at 19:55, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:
David,
Many thanks for directing me to that page. Its very comprehensive and intense. I’ll share my results when I get the other side!
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Hi Tony
You may like to take a look here:-
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Good luck!
David
I have never had a system where this setting wasn’t a problem, which is why I know the Terminal command for this:
I’ve had this setting off for years. It’s implementation is terrible. It spins drives down constantly, increasing wear and tear, not decreasing it. If you have an SSD system drive and the OS is spinning down your external spinning drives, you offset your speed advantage as the OS is constantly waiting for the HDDs to spin up anytime you access the file system even if the HDD isn’t actually needed. It doesn’t know, so it spins it up. And by the way, your drives will spin down anyway when sleeping, eventually. Many modern externals will spin down on their own when idle, regardless of the OS, and many ignore the OS and spin constantly regardless.
Cheers, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? tod
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Re: Internal Drive has become Unbootable
You are most welcome, Tony! ?
David
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On 5 Feb 2024, at 19:55, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:
David,
Many thanks for directing me to that page. Its very comprehensive and intense. I’ll share my results when I get the other side!
—罢辞苍测--
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Hi Tony
You may like to take a look here:-
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Good luck!
David
Re: Internal Drive has become Unbootable
David,
Many thanks for directing me to that page. Its very comprehensive and intense. I’ll share my results when I get the other side!
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Hi Tony
You may like to take a look here:-
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Good luck!
David
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Hi Tony
You may like to take a look here:-
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David
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On 5 Feb 2024, at 19:01, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:
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Internal Drive has become Unbootable
Sorry for this duplicate post. I forgot to include my name below in the original. Thank you.
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Last night I backed up the entire contents of my internal drive (Ventura OS) to a newly purchased 4 TB Crucial X10 portable SSD. The backup took time as it was over 3 TB of data but it went seamlessly as I am able to boot from the external SSD and all looks good on the receiving end.
Upon restarting using the internal volume for my startup I now am faced with a black screen with the following dialogue, "Your computer restarted because of a problem. Press any key or wait a few seconds to continue starting up." The dialogue disappears but reappears over and over. I rebooted from newly created backup to check the contents of the internal drive and found that everything appeared to be in place. While using the external disk as the startup I ran Disk Utility on the internal drive several times which indicated Ventura as the operating system detecting no errors. However I was surprised to see that after checking "Get Info" when clicking on the Macintosh HD (internal drive) in the Finder that Version 14.2.1 appeared as the OS indicating Sonoma!
I restarted the computer in Recovery Mode to see if I could rectify the problem that way. Again I ran Disk Utility while in Recovery Mode on the internal drive and again it indicated Ventura as the OS with the First Aid diagnostic showing no issues. At that point while still in Recovery Mode I chose the reinstall Ventura option in the belief it may be corrupted. When I chose the internal HD for the reinstallation it was grayed out with the prompt "The operation couldn't be completed." com.apple.buildinfo.preflight.errorerror 21.
Any ideas what may have happened as I don't know what to do next in restoring the startup capabilities of the internal HD. I'm nervous about it being corrupted.
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Internal Drive has become Unbootable
Last night I backed up the entire contents of my internal drive (Ventura OS) to a newly purchased 4 TB Crucial X10 portable SSD. The backup took time as it was over 3 TB of data but it went seamlessly as I am able to boot from the external SSD and all looks good on the receiving end.
Upon restarting using the internal volume for my startup I now am faced with a black screen with the following dialogue, "Your computer restarted because of a problem. Press any key or wait a few seconds to continue starting up." The dialogue disappears but reappears over and over. I rebooted from newly created backup to check the contents of the internal drive and found that everything appeared to be in place. While using the external disk as the startup I ran Disk Utility on the internal drive several times which indicated Ventura as the operating system detecting no errors. However I was surprised to see that after checking "Get Info" when clicking on the Macintosh HD (internal drive) in the Finder that Version 14.2.1 appeared as the OS indicating Sonoma!
I restarted the computer in Recovery Mode to see if I could rectify the problem that way. Again I ran Disk Utility while in Recovery Mode on the internal drive and again it indicated Ventura as the OS with the First Aid diagnostic showing no issues. At that point while still in Recovery Mode I chose the reinstall Ventura option in the belief it may be corrupted. When I chose the internal HD for the reinstallation it was grayed out with the prompt "The operation couldn't be completed." com.apple.buildinfo.preflight.errorerror 21.
Any ideas what may have happened as I don't know what to do next in restoring the startup capabilities of the internal HD. I'm nervous about it being corrupted.
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On Feb 3, 2024, at 08:30, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
"gigabit" Fios...what is that?...what isp is providing that kind of upload speed? fios is fiber optics, as I said earlier. Gigabit is much faster.
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Email delivery stopped two days ago
I have a grandfathered Google Workplace account used by members of my family since the service first started and ok-ed by Google when they eased out the free accounts a while back. All worked well until about the 3rd of Feb.
?My Gmail.com addresses work fine, only the family account is silent. Mail doesn’t show anything from ‘family.net' and gmail.com is visible on it too.
?All this absolves the home networks of family members and seems to be a Google issue. I’ll try again to get some help from them although free users are largely on their (our ) own…
Have any of you had this problem before? Are any quick ways into Google support?
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There are many things that can effect connection speeds.?
Compost, uh, I mean Comcast, uses coaxial. Jim S said he uses “gigabit” fiber optics. That is the biggest cause for the increased speed, but location, number of connections on a node and how many people are actively using the internet all can effect the speeds. Think of a highway at rush hour, compared to off times.?
Location and distance to the serve used in the speed test also has an effect.?
Now, if you can ?T1 connection, you could beat Jim’s speeds. But are you willing to pay to have the infrastructure installed and pay for service. Basically, you are comparing a stock, off the showroom floor domestic car, against a Formula One race car.?
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 17:48, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
? my upload speed with comcast/xfinity isp and brave:? ? ?12mbps jim saklad's upload speed with (what isp?) and brave: 939mbps? ...something is seriously wrong with this picture! ?Speedtest.net
On a desktop Mac connected to “gigabit” Fios
Brave
Download Mbps? ?745.47
Upload? ?Mbps? ?939.48
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Re: Strange happenings when composing text in Apple Mail
On Feb 3, 2024, at 12:26?PM, DavidU <davidu02@...> wrote:
I had a similar thing happen to me while writing an email. Something I had previously wrote popped up overwriting part of the message. Command-Z didn’t fix the problem. I was surprised and confused.?
Thanks so much for confirming what I’m experiencing. Did you do any searching to see whether others had experienced this? It looks as though you’re also composing in formatted text.
I just discovered something that might be reproducible, because this is happening to me fairly often: If I place the cursor at the very beginning of the “unwelcome” text and try to drag through it, it disappears and the correct text returns. I don’t yet know whether this is consistent, but if it is, I’ll have something to report to Apple and even demonstrate to them. The problem is that this is SO unpredictable!
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Jim Robertson
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Re: Strange happenings when composing text in Apple Mail
On Feb 3, 2024, at 11:52, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
For the past few weeks I’ve been bedeviled with seemingly random mishandling of typed formatted text while I’m composing mail on my 14 inch M3 Pro MacBook Pro (running Sonoma 14.3). As I type, unpredictably, whole sections of previously entered text will be replaced by OTHER sections of previously typed text. Sometimes this seems to follow the computer’s insertion of additional characters via the newly added capabilities of the predictive spell checker (completing words in advance or adding an almost always following word to the one being entered), but sometimes that does NOT seem to be involved.
So, I’m curious whether anyone else here who uses Apple Mail and writes in formatted text is suffering as well.
I had a similar thing happen to me while writing an email. Something I had previously wrote popped up overwriting part of the message. Command-Z didn’t fix the problem. I was surprised and confused.?
M3 MacBook Pro 2023 OS 14.3 [Sonoma]
iPhone 8 64GB iOS 16.7.4 T-Mobile
iPad mini 2 16GB iOS 12.5.7
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My FIOS is? Fibre to the node then coax to the house, so the last few 100 feet or so are coax.
But still 700 mbps download.
Hugh
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On Feb 3, 2024, at 12:54 PM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:
tim meidroth wrote: my question is, how is it possible for his upload speed to be 75 times faster than mine?...he says his Mac is connected to "gigabit" Fios...what is that?...what ISP is providing that kind of upload speed?
"Gigabit" Fios is a symmetric internet connection at nominally 1 Gbps (1000 megabits per second). I have Verizon Fios (one of the major US cellular/phone/cable providers). This is provided through a fiber-optic connection all the way from the ISP to the home.? Fiber comes into the Network Interface Connection on the wall of my house.
The distribution within my house is (a) coaxial cable to 2 locations for TV hookup, (b) Category 6a ethernet cabling to multiple rooms, and (c) Wifi everywhere.
The Wifi is limited to "only" about 400-450 Mbps because that's what I had available in 2019.
Prior to getting this, I was unable to get ANY cable service and subsisted on DSL that maxxed out at about 2.8 Mbps (that's an hour for a 1 GB download, if it didn't get interrupted).
--? jimdoc@...<Jim logo small.jpg>
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