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Re: Upgrade OS from High Sierra on 2018 iMac


 

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Thank you, Bev.

I have added your notes on the changes to the various OSes to my spreadsheet, Please tell me, how you gathered them up. What search term did you use, or what source?

Interesting, I never found a need for Grab, and did not even notice that Screenshot.app replaced it, since I have been using screenshots keystrokes for ages.

We have slight variations in what we suggest, but it all depends on the individual their needs and their personal workflow.?

A clean install will remove any detritus left over from prior OSes and work, but this amounts to such a small amount of storage.It is almost never an issue, and I can¡¯t cite a documented instance, where any of that left over bits caused a problem or conflict in operation. My opinion is that the leftover bits are the bits that a shared between multiple applications, _probably_ mostly third party software. Apple shares a lot of info and code between things like Contacts, Phone, Mail and Maps. Now think of Microsoft or Adobe, you may have several modules, and remove one. You don¡¯t want to remove the shared code or data, because it would cripple the ones you are keeping, so the uninstallers are written to leave those shared bits.?


Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On Mar 22, 2025, at 9:00 AM, Bev in TX via <countryone77@...> wrote:

Whichever way you do the upgrade,?please?backup your data before performing the upgrade. ?It is a major leap forward from macOS High Sierra 10.13 to macOS Ventura 13. ?Your system drive will automatically be reformatted as AFPS, with two (2) volumes, system and data (introduced in macOS 10.15 Catalina). ?Due to Apple's bidirectional firm links, the two volumes appear as one in Finder, but show separately in Disk Utility. ?

I don't use iCloud because I have a lot of data and it's a subscription service. ?So I always do two (2) separate backups: a clone and Time Machine. ?Another possibility is a cloud backup service such as Backblaze (I've never used them, I've only heard them mentioned). ?That's probably also a subscription.

Given the amount of data you have, you could make a clone on a 256 GB USB flash drive, as they are very inexpensive theses days. ?Randy always recommends SuperDuper, which is free to use without some of its bells and whistles that are probably unnecessary in this scenario.

Whichever way you do the backups, verify that you can recover data from them before doing the upgrade.

Erasing your disk is part of a clean upgrade, so it is a bit more involved than doing an upgrade in place. ?A fully clean upgrade would also include a new installation of any apps that don't come with macOS. ?Because of that, you would need to restore all data from backup and reset all of your system and app preferences/settings. ?I used my 2010 MacBook Pro for 10 years and never did a clean upgrade, all with no problems. ?Other folks always do clean upgrades, because they think that clean upgrades can prevent some kinds of problems.

Just a few of the other changes you'll see (far from complete):
Mojave:
... Grab replaced by Screenshot app.
... New apps introduced: News, Stocks, Voice Memos and Home.

Catalina:
...?32-bit apps not supported.?
... iTunes was replaced by separate Music, Podcasts, TV and Books apps, in line with iOS. iOS device management is now conducted via Finder.
... Find My Mac and Find My Friends are merged into an application called Find My.
... in Terminal, Z shell (executable "zsh") is the default login shell for new users.

Big Sur:
... New Time Machine backup destinations are formatted as APFS.
... New Shortcuts app.
...?Live Text, which allows a user to copy, paste, translate and look up text from images (something that I use almost every day).
...?New Passwords Manager
... Visual Look Up makes it easy to identify objects (e.g. cat breeds, dog breeds, etc.) found within user's photos.

Ventura:
... Stage Manager?keeps the app you¡¯re working with front and center, and your desktop clutter-free (personally don't like it, but maybe I just didn't use it enough)
... New apps Clock, Freeform, and Weather?
... System Preferences was renamed to System Settings and got a new tabbed interface. ?It was re-organized based on the iOS/iPadOS Settings app.

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