Hi.

I'm sure I had all this working in the past, but not now....... Not helped by issues with my main PC preventing reliable access to it.?? That is fully disconnected, cold and dead for now.

Fldigi 4.2.06 with Flrig 2.0.05 on LMDE 6 running on an 8 core intel based machine, a Dell XPS laptop with 8G RAM, using external USB connected sound device, and serial port DTR to key the radio, a TS870s.

Using Fldigi/Flrig for "normal" working is fine, but attempting to create a macro to send a CWID and "ONLY" a CWID, and I'm failing...

I'm sure this has cropped up before in the list, but attempting to create a macro to send a CWID and "ONLY" a CWID, regardless of the prevailing mode that was being used I can't make work, after some 40 minutes faffing about, so hear I am.

This is the contents behind a freshly assigned "CW ID" Macro button...

<TXRSID:off>
<PUSH>
<MODEM:CW>
<TX>
<CWID>
<RX>
<POP>
<TXRSID:on>

It fails miserably...

Firstly it doe not always put the rig into TX!? Sometimes it will for a few attempts, then it'll not bother, but sends audio each and every time.? (Debugging this with the rig on low power into a load, while using the default audio device for the TX audio, so hopefully no QRM being sent.)

It always sends a RSID (TXID button here is enabled by default, and is not seen to be disabled while the macro runs.)? Then a burst of Olivia 8/250 (the mode that is present before invoking the macro) then does the CWID, and goes back to recieve.

The indicated mode does not change in the lower left display of Fldigi either.

Each individual macro function works exactly as advertised, but not it seems when combined into one file.? In this case.

What have I missed this time??? I.e.? How to force a macro to execute sequentially, as it is shown in the editor.

I just want it to key the radio, send an unadulterated CWID without any TXID or burst of whatever other digimode was being used, then go back to RX restoring the mode that was in use before the macro was invoked.

As earlier.? "Normal" Fldigi usage is fine.?? As are the usual macros for calling answering sending info, logging and closing QSO's etc.

Confused again and getting fed up with it.

73.

Dave G0WBX.

Bob,

This is on 4.2.05.25



The transmit stays locked at 7071.0 and the Rx is at 7071.3.

Dave

On 8/14/24 21:54, Bob Gypay wrote:

Crossposted? to both fldigi-devel and linuxham

Tested on v4.2.04.11 and 4.2.04.24 against 3.23.21 (By John VK2ETA)

Using PSK250RC7, PSK500RC3, PSK125RC10 and PSK63RCx (ie not all modems checked)

With "Retain tx freq lock" enabled in RsID configuration plus Lk set, V4 no longer enables Lk operation nor splits the wfall TX/RX for the PSK125RC &? PSK63RC modems. The PSK250RC and PSK500RC modems act in the same way as 8PSKx and OFDMx modems, shifting TX/RX together, ignoring the RsID config setting and also not responding to Lk.

It might also be a good idea to force Lk operation when setting this RsID config parameter and update the tooltip to explain what is happening.

As it currently stands a mode such as PSK63RC5 is quite troublesome to RsID tune as disabling TX lock can cause TX/RX "walking" if any RIT is in play.

And since it is in the same "auto" tuning area it might be a good idea to modify the AFC button tooltip to grey out on unsupported modes. ie only single carrier PSK.

Cheers Bob VK2YQA

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Thanks Brian.? Any reports from other distribution users?

David

On 1/9/25 13:07, Brian Morrison ,G8SEZ via groups.io wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:15:05 -0600

"Dave, W1HKJ" <w1hkj@...> wrote:

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do

not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

I've been using pipewire under Fedora for over 2 years now and

pavucontrol works perfectly with it here.

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:15:05 -0600
"Dave, W1HKJ" <w1hkj@...> wrote:

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do
not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

I've been using pipewire under Fedora for over 2 years now and
pavucontrol works perfectly with it here.

Sounds good. Just like I've always had it. It just confused me a little because I'm hearing from the tech world that pipewire is the replacement for pulseaudio so I thought we would have to change the configuration from pulseaudio to portaudio using pipewire. It's a challenge keeping all of this straight LOL.

Ron NY3J

On 1/9/25 08:22, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

If you are using Pipewire as the audio controller then simple check "PulseAudio" on the fldigi Soundcard/Devices dialog tab.

David

On 1/9/25 05:06, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Thanks David,

So I installed qpwgraph and when I run it I see a graphical display but I don't see any slider bars to adjust audio. I can see pipewire in my pulse audio volume control application so is it okay to use that? Here's what it looks like:



Also, in Fldigi sound card configuration do I need to select PortAudio, pipewire for my Devices?



Ron NY3J

On 1/8/25 19:15, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:

Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.

?

It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.

?

My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.

?

? Dan

? N7SHM

If you are using Pipewire as the audio controller then simple check "PulseAudio" on the fldigi Soundcard/Devices dialog tab.

David

On 1/9/25 05:06, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Thanks David,

So I installed qpwgraph and when I run it I see a graphical display but I don't see any slider bars to adjust audio. I can see pipewire in my pulse audio volume control application so is it okay to use that? Here's what it looks like:



Also, in Fldigi sound card configuration do I need to select PortAudio, pipewire for my Devices?



Ron NY3J

On 1/8/25 19:15, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:

Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.

?

It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.

?

My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.

?

? Dan

? N7SHM

Thanks David,

So I installed qpwgraph and when I run it I see a graphical display but I don't see any slider bars to adjust audio. I can see pipewire in my pulse audio volume control application so is it okay to use that? Here's what it looks like:



Also, in Fldigi sound card configuration do I need to select PortAudio, pipewire for my Devices?



Ron NY3J

On 1/8/25 19:15, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:

Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.

?

It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.

?

My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.

?

? Dan

? N7SHM

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:

Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.

?

It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.

?

My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.

?

? Dan

? N7SHM

Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:

Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.

?

It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.

?

My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.

?

? Dan

? N7SHM

Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:

Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.

?

It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.

?

My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.

?

? Dan

? N7SHM