Re: Unusual question re WSL2
Hi Jerry,
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Long time Linux user here.? As much as I hate to run windows programs under wine, I had to admit defeat with VARA.? I run VARA and VARA-FM under wine and interface them with the PAT Winlink client.? Works very well.? As far as logging and such, that is all done with native Linux applications.
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73,
Jeff, KA1DBE?
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Re: Unusual question re WSL2
As another alternative, one can run Winlink and VarHF under Wine. Takes a bit of work but is stable. This is how I use them.
On 31/10/2024 20:07, WF5W, Jerry via wrote:
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> I hope y'all understand my question
IMHO you are doing back to front.
Install Linux and make that the base OS. Then install a VM and run
Windows in the VM. That way you have a "better" OS driving the hardware
and in control and Windows in the VM for the apps you want that are only
available for Windows. The best thing is if you don't want those apps
then you don't need to have Windows running at all.
YMMV.
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--?? Lifetime Member:?////?--
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Re: Unusual question re WSL2
On 31/10/2024 20:07, WF5W, Jerry via groups.io wrote: I hope y'all understand my question IMHO you are doing back to front. Install Linux and make that the base OS. Then install a VM and run Windows in the VM. That way you have a "better" OS driving the hardware and in control and Windows in the VM for the apps you want that are only available for Windows. The best thing is if you don't want those apps then you don't need to have Windows running at all. YMMV.
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Hey y'all:
I have what is probably an unusual question.
Background: I have been a long time Linux user, but find that I really need to run windows to do stuff for EMCOMM. Like rmsexpress (winmail), varaAC, varaHF, varaFM, and F3FJP for field days. I have tried all of those with (mostly) fairly unsuccessful success. I wish it weren't so! Otherwise, this question would be posed.
I want to run EVERYTHING else in linux. So my first thought was dual boot. And yes, I could do that. Then I was told that doing that was outmoded. And the way to do it going forward was to install and use WSL 2 on windows -- and then I would have the best of both worlds.
Over time, at least a year, I have written all kinds of scripts (mostly bash), that automate (for me) all things POTA related and I need to run flrig, wsjtx, fldigi, and other programs ON LINUX. I do not want to give that up. If I have to I will just dual boot and be done with it.
So now here is my question:
Except
for those EMCOMM type programs to run on windows, will all the rest of the programs I want to run on WSL2 (using audio and USB port for PTT). I should let you know I use an FT-710, the usb of which is a C-Media composite (of usb and audio). Those need to work.
I hope y'all understand my question, and can offer some assurances, and advice.
Thank you!
73,
Jerry ---- Extra Ham Radio Operator: WF5W Registered Linux User: 275424 3D CAD designer (FreeCAD)
The most exciting phrase to hear in science - the one that heralds new discoveries - is not "Eureka" but "That's funny...". - Isaac. Asimov
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Re: #flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
Thanks Dave,
See in-line.
On 30/10/2024 17:08, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Phil,
There is an IDD scale with a maximum of 50
Suggest you scale your 705 IDD measurement to a scale of 50.
?? ???? ??? mtr = 50.0 * mtr / 241.0;
?? ???? ??? if (mtr > 50) mtr = 50;
I think this should be 40, rather than 50 to keep the measurement
in line with the number value. So the scale is now measuring dA
(deciamps).
The attached (idd25-2A.png) is with the scale 25 (but image_idd50
- see below). Ignore the SWR - something has gone wrong with my
antenna (I'll need to look at this in daylight - when we get any
at 55N!) and both the actual rig display and external SWR bridge
are showing high SWR. But the rig display itself is showing just
over 2A, so 22 or 23 on the display looks right.
Then change
void cbALC_IDD_SWR()
{
?? ?switch (meter_image) {
?? ???? case ALC_IMAGE:
?? ???? ??? if (selrig->has_idd_control) {
?? ???? ??? ??? btnALC_IDD_SWR->image(image_idd25);
?? ???? ??? ??? meter_image = IDD_IMAGE;
?? ???? ??? ??? sldrIDD->show();
?? ???? ??? ??? {
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? guard_lock serial_lock(&mutex_serial,
"40");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? trace(1, "cbALC_IDD_SWR()? 2");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? selrig->select_idd();
?? ???? ??? ??? }
?? ???? ??? ??? break;
?? ???? ??? }
?? ???? case IDD_IMAGE:
to image_idd50
Let us know if that works for you.
I found no differences between the two. See images (idd25 and
idd50).
David
PS. After I change IC705.cxx and rerun make I get the following
error message:
In file included from
./include/rigpanel.h:56,
???????????????? from ./include/rig.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/status.h:28,
???????????????? from ./include/rigbase.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/ICbase.h:25,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC746.h:24,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC705.h:26,
???????????????? from rigs/icom/IC705.cxx:29:
./include/flinput2.h:41:26: error: operator '>' has no left
operand
?? 41 | #if FLRIG_FLTK_API_MINOR > 3
????? |????????????????????????? ^
make[2]: *** [Makefile:2100: rigs/icom/flrig-IC705.o] Error 1
Look's like there's a missing #include or #define. I have to run
'make distclean' etc to get a clean compile. Just running 'make
clean' first also fails. This doesn't happen when I modify
support.cxx.
Phil.
On 10/30/24 10:20, Philip Rose,
GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:
On 30/10/2024 14:19, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:
I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now
greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be
done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote
operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX
standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a
standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than
PO of 0W.
73 Phil GM3ZZA
I've copied the get_idd() method from IC-7300 and changed the
calculation to max of 4A and it seems to work. It looks like the
scale maximum of 25A is fixed. Modified IC705.h and IC705.cxx
attached (based on this morning's download of alpha .77).
73 Phil GM3ZZA
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Re: #flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
Phil,
There is an IDD scale with a maximum of 50
Suggest you scale your 705 IDD measurement to a scale of 50.
?? ???? ??? mtr = 50.0 * mtr / 241.0;
?? ???? ??? if (mtr > 50) mtr = 50;
Then change
void cbALC_IDD_SWR()
{
?? ?switch (meter_image) {
?? ???? case ALC_IMAGE:
?? ???? ??? if (selrig->has_idd_control) {
?? ???? ??? ??? btnALC_IDD_SWR->image( image_idd25);
?? ???? ??? ??? meter_image = IDD_IMAGE;
?? ???? ??? ??? sldrIDD->show();
?? ???? ??? ??? {
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? guard_lock serial_lock(&mutex_serial, "40");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? trace(1, "cbALC_IDD_SWR()? 2");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? selrig->select_idd();
?? ???? ??? ??? }
?? ???? ??? ??? break;
?? ???? ??? }
?? ???? case IDD_IMAGE:
to image_idd50
Let us know if that works for you.
David
On 10/30/24 10:20, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA
via groups.io wrote:
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On 30/10/2024 14:19, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:
I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed
out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to
read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but
might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does
not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A
sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W.
73 Phil GM3ZZA
I've copied the get_idd() method from IC-7300 and changed the
calculation to max of 4A and it seems to work. It looks like the
scale maximum of 25A is fixed. Modified IC705.h and IC705.cxx
attached (based on this morning's download of alpha .77).
73 Phil GM3ZZA
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Re: #flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
On 30/10/2024 14:19, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:
I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W.
73 Phil GM3ZZA
I've copied the get_idd() method from IC-7300 and changed the calculation to max of 4A and it seems to work. It looks like the scale maximum of 25A is fixed. Modified IC705.h and IC705.cxx attached (based on this morning's download of alpha .77). 73 Phil GM3ZZA
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
That's the great thing about Linux, choice, and the ability to make it your own.
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We all have our favorites too :-)
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We're a big CentOS / Rocky Linux user at work (tens of thousands of machines running K8 workloads aka the "private cloud"). I've warmed up to essentially the "RedHat" way of doing things.
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Some 24 years ago now the place I was working at had DEC Alphas running Tru64 Unix. Those things were amazing, and Tru64 had all the LVM stuff back then. From that I have a soft spot for Unix, FreeBSD is my favorite one there. I'm a big Mac user which under the hood is FreeBSD and NeXT smashed together (over simplification) with very nice UI ontop.
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I've tried a few, Debian is the one I seem to come back to for my own stuff at home, where Linux is the best choice for something.
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- Lonney
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 06:55 AM, Richard Shaw, KF5OIM wrote:
I'll always put in a word for Fedora, but full disclosure, I'm a Fedora packager and maintain most of the Ham Radio applications. Of course that also makes it easy to find me if you have a problem.
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Re: #flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
On 30/10/2024 00:26, Brian Morrison ,G8SEZ via groups.io wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 09:03:55 -0700
"Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io" <gm3zza@...>
wrote:
I noticed an issue this afternoon. When I read the power meter from
flrig for IC-705 using XMLRPC command, this returns a value. However
there is no value displayed in either the meters dialog nor in the
main dialog.
I am using flrig ...5.70.
I have had a brief look through the code and I can't see anything
wrong.
Also IDD isn't displaying, but I can see the code is not there for
that in IC705.cxx. There's a .77 version, maybe there is a relevant change in that
although I can't see anything in the readme.txt
Doh! I forgot I had to enable polling for the IC-705 configuration. I had been using it for so long with IC-7300. Now enabled all polling and everything looks OK. I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W. 73 Phil GM3ZZA
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
Good to read the recommendations, many from experts.
While I would not claim to be expert, I have many years certified
experience of Linux in the workplace and home.
My two cents worth, FWIW, is there is a big difference between
introducing a new user to Linux and what distro suits an old hand,
familiar with the architecture and comfortable with compiling
source and needing bleeding edge versions of apps.
So, what's my vote? Start the new user with Mint-Cinnamon, a
stable and well supported member of the Debian family, with
extensive support for Amateur radio. The environment is like
enough to Win and Mac not to cause panic in the newcomer. After
finding out how it works and is organized, take a look at several
other distros, with different packaging. Then, get to know a
favorite one as best you can, but stay familiar with the most
current others.
My own preference now? Mostly Arch, but then I'm not just
starting out. -But I suspect that the original question of which
distro was from a beginner, so that is the question we
should answer?
Hope it helps some,
73, John, KX4QC
(Linux+ Cert Prof 2007)
On 10/29/24 20:41, Neil Hanlon, N1HAN
via groups.io wrote:
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Hey Richard,
Good to see you here! Do let me know if you
would like any help with any of the package maintenance.
My FAS username is just "neil". Fairly new to ham, less so
to packaging, but still looking to improve my abilities in
both areas :)
Neil N1HAN
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024,
10:55 Richard Shaw, KF5OIM via <hobbes1069= [email protected]>
wrote:
A lot of other distros are build from
Debian. Start with that or one of its more
user friendly derivatives such as Mint.
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Others have likely noted that there are
some ham radio specific editions out there
too. These take the work out of installing the
ham radio applications.
I'll always put in a word for Fedora, but
full disclosure, I'm a Fedora packager and
maintain most of the Ham Radio applications. Of
course that also makes it easy to find me if you
have a problem.
Thanks,
Richard
KF5OIM?
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
Hey Richard,
Good to see you here! Do let me know if you would like any help with any of the package maintenance. My FAS username is just "neil". Fairly new to ham, less so to packaging, but still looking to improve my abilities in both areas :)
Neil N1HAN
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 10:55 Richard Shaw, KF5OIM via <hobbes1069= [email protected]> wrote: A lot of other distros are build from Debian. Start with that or one of its more user friendly derivatives such as Mint.
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Others have likely noted that there are some ham radio specific editions out there too. These take the work out of installing the ham radio applications.
I'll always put in a word for Fedora, but full disclosure, I'm a Fedora packager and maintain most of the Ham Radio applications. Of course that also makes it easy to find me if you have a problem.
Thanks, Richard
KF5OIM?
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Re: #flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 09:03:55 -0700 "Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io" <gm3zza@...> wrote: I noticed an issue this afternoon. When I read the power meter from
flrig for IC-705 using XMLRPC command, this returns a value. However
there is no value displayed in either the meters dialog nor in the
main dialog.
I am using flrig ...5.70.
I have had a brief look through the code and I can't see anything
wrong.
Also IDD isn't displaying, but I can see the code is not there for
that in IC705.cxx. There's a .77 version, maybe there is a relevant change in that although I can't see anything in the readme.txt -- Brian G8SEZ
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
I use ubuntu with x-ubuntu.? Everything works fine.
I generally compile things such as WSJT-X from source, but occasionally get the distro package. On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 9:23?PM Michael K Johnson, KZ4LY via <mcdanlj= [email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 06:34 PM, Richard Shaw, KF5OIM wrote:
For Fedora, I maintain most of the ham radio related packages
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Thank you for that work!
I'm very new to ham radio (just a couple of weeks in, trying to learn everything I can) but not exactly new to Fedora, and found this thread while exploring what software I can install for various digital modes and control. Is it trivially easy to list the ham radio packages you so kindly maintain in Fedora?
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#flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
I noticed an issue this afternoon. When I read the power meter from flrig for IC-705 using XMLRPC command, this returns a value. However there is no value displayed in either the meters dialog nor in the main dialog.
I am using flrig ...5.70.
I have had a brief look through the code and I can't see anything wrong.
Also IDD isn't displaying, but I can see the code is not there for that in IC705.cxx.
73 Phil GM3ZZA
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
Hi Everybody,
"Best" is rather subjective, but I'd like to remind folks about an Ubuntu based software collection that is easy for you to install and might meet your needs:
Andy's Ham Radio Linux
Full disclosure: I'm Andy :-)
I have made this software collection available for about 13 years. There have been over 100,000 downloads over that time.
Please look here for more information:
Version 26b-beta is the latest. It is installed on top of whatever Ubuntu/Debian based software you're already using. It has also been tested on Raspberry Pi 4/5.
Please be sure to read the GETTING_STARTED guide.
Have fun(!) and 73,
Andy
--
Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ)
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
A lot of other distros are build from Debian. Start with that or one of its more user friendly derivatives such as Mint.
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Others have likely noted that there are some ham radio specific editions out there too. These take the work out of installing the ham radio applications.
I'll always put in a word for Fedora, but full disclosure, I'm a Fedora packager and maintain most of the Ham Radio applications. Of course that also makes it easy to find me if you have a problem.
Thanks, Richard
KF5OIM?
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
A lot of other distros are build from Debian. Start with that or one of its more user friendly derivatives such as Mint.
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Others have likely noted that there are some ham radio specific editions out there too. These take the work out of installing the ham radio applications.
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
I use Suse and GnuRadio is included in the offerings. A subscription is $50 for the enterprise desktop. I am asking if Suse can fit in this amateur community?? Thank you in advance. I want to learn and to be of help
PeaceBridgeNetworks.net ? N9pno George Kirn had contact with this data.
On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 10:06?PM Michael K Johnson, KZ4LY via <mcdanlj= [email protected]> wrote:
OK, someone else to thank! I started with those two queries, filtering out a few internet streaming radio programs, and looked for all the W1HKJ software I could find.
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This is what I've done so far in a Fedora 41 toolbox:
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sudo dnf install gnome-radio gnuradio{,-{devel,doc,examples}} python3-gnuradio goodvibes radiotray-ng ?gqrx fllog rtl-433{,-devel} LinLog fbb{,-{doc,gui}} soundmodem{,-devel} tlf cqrlog hamlib{,-{c++{,-devel},devel,doc}} python3-hamlib ax25-apps flnet gr-rds{,-{devel,doc}} klog klog twlog xpsk31 lpsk31 rust-hamming+default-devel xconvers xfhell callgit dxcc dxcc-gui fldigi flarq flrig flmsg flamp fllog flnet flwkey flcluster
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That brace-expands to:
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sudo dnf install gnome-radio gnuradio gnuradio-devel gnuradio-doc gnuradio-examples python3-gnuradio goodvibes radiotray-ng gqrx fllog rtl-433 rtl-433-devel LinLog fbb fbb-doc fbb-gui soundmodem soundmodem-devel tlf cqrlog hamlib hamlib-c++ hamlib-c++-devel hamlib-devel hamlib-doc python3-hamlib ax25-apps flnet gr-rds gr-rds-devel gr-rds-doc klog klog twlog xpsk31 lpsk31 rust-hamming+default-devel xconvers xfhell callgit dxcc dxcc-gui fldigi flarq flrig flmsg flamp fllog flnet flwkey flcluster
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I have a lot to explore now!
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
OK, someone else to thank! I started with those two queries, filtering out a few internet streaming radio programs, and looked for all the W1HKJ software I could find.
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This is what I've done so far in a Fedora 41 toolbox:
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sudo dnf install gnome-radio gnuradio{,-{devel,doc,examples}} python3-gnuradio goodvibes radiotray-ng ?gqrx fllog rtl-433{,-devel} LinLog fbb{,-{doc,gui}} soundmodem{,-devel} tlf cqrlog hamlib{,-{c++{,-devel},devel,doc}} python3-hamlib ax25-apps flnet gr-rds{,-{devel,doc}} klog klog twlog xpsk31 lpsk31 rust-hamming+default-devel xconvers xfhell callgit dxcc dxcc-gui fldigi flarq flrig flmsg flamp fllog flnet flwkey flcluster
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That brace-expands to:
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sudo dnf install gnome-radio gnuradio gnuradio-devel gnuradio-doc gnuradio-examples python3-gnuradio goodvibes radiotray-ng gqrx fllog rtl-433 rtl-433-devel LinLog fbb fbb-doc fbb-gui soundmodem soundmodem-devel tlf cqrlog hamlib hamlib-c++ hamlib-c++-devel hamlib-devel hamlib-doc python3-hamlib ax25-apps flnet gr-rds gr-rds-devel gr-rds-doc klog klog twlog xpsk31 lpsk31 rust-hamming+default-devel xconvers xfhell callgit dxcc dxcc-gui fldigi flarq flrig flmsg flamp fllog flnet flwkey flcluster
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I have a lot to explore now!
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
o/ Also a Fedora maintainer and ham, here.
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The ham-related space on Fedora is pretty decent, and I've been working on packaging other things as I find them (pretty rare). Lots of SDR utilties already there, though it can always be improved. If you find something you can't get in Fedora, I'd be happy to poke at it for ya. There's already gnuradio, hamlib, rtl stuff, ax.25 stuff, and more.
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73
neil
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Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Philip Rose, GM3ZZA
Dave, W1HKJ
Richard Shaw, KF5OIM