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jed martin All Messages By This Member #12418 i've done a search on this UG, as well as looking through the kicad documentation and wikis for info on how to use the built-in autorouter, but can't find any info at all. i see it mentioned a lot, including some members of this group saying "the internal autorouter works fine for me..." but no info on how to actualy use it... can somebody tell me how to use it?
blind_box2 All Messages By This Member #12419 开云体育 The internal router is not that good compared to Freerouter. Also, to use it, simply click autorouting mode (2nd from the very right on the top icon list). Then, right click anywhere on the grid (not on a module) > Autoroute > Autoroute all modules. I repeat, it's not very good. You're better off with Freerouter. On 7/19/2012 10:29 AM, jed wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text ? i've done a search on this UG, as well as looking through the kicad documentation and wikis for info on how to use the built-in autorouter, but can't find any info at all. i see it mentioned a lot, including some members of this group saying "the internal autorouter works fine for me..." but no info on how to actualy use it... can somebody tell me how to use it?
Mithat Konar All Messages By This Member #12420 Does anyone know if the qAutorouter people (http://sourceforge.net/projects/qautorouter/files/) are making any progress? -M toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: blindbox To: kicad-users@... Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] internal autorouter ? The internal router is not that good compared to Freerouter. Also, to use it, simply click autorouting mode (2nd from the very right on the top icon list). Then, right click anywhere on the grid (not on a module) > Autoroute > Autoroute all modules. I repeat, it's not very good. You're better off with Freerouter. On 7/19/2012 10:29 AM, jed wrote: ? i've done a search on this UG, as well as looking through the kicad documentation and wikis for info on how to use the built-in autorouter, but can't find any info at all. i see it mentioned a lot, including some members of this group saying "the internal autorouter works fine for me..." but no info on how to actualy use it... can somebody tell me how to use it?
Michael Sharkey All Messages By This Member #12421 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Guys, We've made some progress porting the toporoute engine to run as a qautorouter plugin but it's stalled for now as none of us has large chunks of time to devote to it in the short term. In the near term what we are doing is adding a geda pcb export function such that you can read your KiCAD generated specctra file into qautorouter and then export to geda pcb and then route it from there. That functionality should be available pretty soon. I'm thinking we should build the specctra->geda-pcb converter functionality as a stand-alone command-line utility as well. - --Mike On 07/19/2012 05:20 AM, Mithat Konar wrote: Does anyone know if the qAutorouter people () are making any progress? -M ________________________________ From: blindbox <blind_box2@...> To: kicad-users@... Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] internal autorouter The internal router is not that good compared to Freerouter. Also, to use it, simply click autorouting mode (2nd from the very right on the top icon list). Then, right click anywhere on the grid (not on a module) > Autoroute > Autoroute all modules. I repeat, it's not very good. You're better off with Freerouter. On 7/19/2012 10:29 AM, jed wrote: i've done a search on this UG, as well as looking through the kicad documentation and wikis for info on how to use the built-in autorouter, but can't find any info at all. i see it mentioned a lot, including some members of this group saying "the internal autorouter works fine for me..." but no info on how to actualy use it... can somebody tell me how to use it? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQCCTKAAoJEA7EcEr0emgfVNoIAMKWcfVK/h2Qv15Lv/NE0EVl TxNNNCBRMhDHbe0XdSe+wT7qnL7taqVJzIcI7HGgYP5G2s+DVZCG0M1HGjYqorVf qCvhb1NQKb9C54deZL54OR3sITikRT+/es9WNgHoUI2eWm/Uke8lpf8Q67cuHsyW sWNagnut+fIA2Hs4Z27FIZSO4mqvwaHih4ZRp0R0okIFyfgvWuxe1dee2H6Mg9Bd 3BIl23oKPHiooslMs/SiR/5FqC00YmBQ6z+nwUO1MqChn64DAkjyW1N59UtJh/Uc yv5rWUPH+2bsbXX28kYJz+FjVnZGYpLBbG554zL06Rf2aqRZMx5fWnDDM8fzPus= =so+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Mithat Konar All Messages By This Member #12422 This is awesome news. I did a tiny bit of experimentation with gEDA-PCB's topological router a couple years ago, and it was pretty interesting. Will the trip into gEDA-PCB be one way, or will we be able to get results back into KiCad? I think a command-line tool for this is a great idea. I suspect most of the time it's what I would use anyway. :-) Cheers, -Mithat toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: mike To: kicad-users@... Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] internal autorouter ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Guys, We've made some progress porting the toporoute engine to run as a qautorouter plugin but it's stalled for now as none of us has large chunks of time to devote to it in the short term. In the near term what we are doing is adding a geda pcb export function such that you can read your KiCAD generated specctra file into qautorouter and then export to geda pcb and then route it from there. That functionality should be available pretty soon. I'm thinking we should build the specctra->geda-pcb converter functionality as a stand-alone command-line utility as well. - --Mike On 07/19/2012 05:20 AM, Mithat Konar wrote: > Does anyone know if the qAutorouter people > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/qautorouter/files/) are making any > progress? > > -M > > > > >> ________________________________ From: blindbox >> <blind_box2@...> To: kicad-users@... Sent: >> Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] >> internal autorouter >> >> >> >> The internal router is not that good compared to Freerouter. >> Also, to use it, simply click autorouting mode (2nd from the very >> right on the top icon list). Then, right click anywhere on the >> grid (not on a module) > > Autoroute > Autoroute all modules. >> >> I repeat, it's not very good. You're better off with Freerouter. >> >> On 7/19/2012 10:29 AM, jed wrote: >> >> >>> i've done a search on this UG, as well as looking through the >>> kicad documentation and wikis for info on how to use the >>> built-in autorouter, but can't find any info at all. i see it >>> mentioned a lot, including some members of this group saying >>> "the internal autorouter works fine for me..." but no info on >>> how to actualy use it... can somebody tell me how to use it? >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQCCTKAAoJEA7EcEr0emgfVNoIAMKWcfVK/h2Qv15Lv/NE0EVl TxNNNCBRMhDHbe0XdSe+wT7qnL7taqVJzIcI7HGgYP5G2s+DVZCG0M1HGjYqorVf qCvhb1NQKb9C54deZL54OR3sITikRT+/es9WNgHoUI2eWm/Uke8lpf8Q67cuHsyW sWNagnut+fIA2Hs4Z27FIZSO4mqvwaHih4ZRp0R0okIFyfgvWuxe1dee2H6Mg9Bd 3BIl23oKPHiooslMs/SiR/5FqC00YmBQ6z+nwUO1MqChn64DAkjyW1N59UtJh/Uc yv5rWUPH+2bsbXX28kYJz+FjVnZGYpLBbG554zL06Rf2aqRZMx5fWnDDM8fzPus= =so+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Alain Mouette All Messages By This Member #12423 Em 19-07-2012 05:06, blindbox escreveu: I repeat, it's not very good. You're better off with Freerouter. Auto router serves not only to make a fully routed PCB !!! I use it a lot, running quick autoroutes and reversing to previous version. What I gain with it? Well, it is a very good check for my component placing. After a few fast iterations I can get a much better view of routing problems and plece my components in a much better way my 2?, Alain
Michael Sharkey All Messages By This Member #12427 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/19/2012 11:39 AM, Mithat Konar wrote: Will the trip into gEDA-PCB be one way, or will we be able to get results back into KiCad? For the first crack at it, it will be one way. You'll have to generate your gerber files from geda pcb. This is intended to be just a work-around while we're waiting to have a workable qautorouter plugin. - --Mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQCK4cAAoJEA7EcEr0emgfu3kIAJF8fZp+rsyPDGV/NzS63RHd UfAvTrzBf01t+FyoQQnihmtidBlKlU2ky/VQ3lku3E9s6KH+X10/F5hoiYRpHSvj osKiTYyk5/MpwRFOk/N7nIZ+FtF1lU/uBVnTiMONNGL1uazbqDdipbJDg7DPQHZE aWg/Z5VsCYurMHWfcHzq8DgcuFdD22z1UfpNmmRSrO2eD+BtnWpYo5ZRHqbbNctP HcLADa+tQuMA/U05VvSDsifiCn79HtjNLj6qHF8cmwt+nMgHHceWEY53hkJnLxZO /HzpP2T6m0riwSj0ReOucuq2PuP6e1wyK63bTrcTZNfke5Q/VSG7HVPHy8R2C5M= =gyWQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
jed martin All Messages By This Member #12428 it seemed to work ok with a simple board, but i tried it on one of the demo boards which was low-medium complexity (carte_test.brd) and it crashed pcbnew... is there a log i can check to see what happened when the autorouter ran? toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In kicad-users@..., blindbox <blind_box2@...> wrote: The internal router is not that good compared to Freerouter. Also, to use it, simply click autorouting mode (2nd from the very right on the top icon list). Then, right click anywhere on the grid (not on a module) > Autoroute > Autoroute all modules. I repeat, it's not very good. You're better off with Freerouter.
ike All Messages By This Member #12431 i was using autorouter to finalize board by completing the 'no brainer' traces. one of the problem was that it only used default trace with, not the one defined by netclass.? once i mentioned that on launchpad, there was attempt to fix it but unfortunately it got a bit worse. last time i used it, it was trying to route with wider traces as defined in netclass. this should have worked ok but it didn't. the problem is that it was still thinking that it is using 0.008" trace so it was getting through tight spots - while lying down wider traces and creating tons of short circuits.? i reported that as well but i was informed that built in router is depreciated and options are to either route manually or use freeroute. freeroute seem to work very well but i'm not fan of low contrast pastel colors...? ik toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: Alain Mouette To: kicad-users@... Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:48:39 AM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] internal autorouter ? Em 19-07-2012 05:06, blindbox escreveu: > > I repeat, it's not very good. You're better off with Freerouter. Auto router serves not only to make a fully routed PCB !!! I use it a lot, running quick autoroutes and reversing to previous version. What I gain with it? Well, it is a very good check for my component placing. After a few fast iterations I can get a much better view of routing problems and plece my components in a much better way my 2?, Alain

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