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Multi sheet


 

Hello all,
I'm a new user of Kicad and I very astonished to discover all functionalities of this free software !
The only thing that I'm concern is the multiple sheet schematic : it doesn't seem to be possible to have a multiple sheet without hierarchical way.

Do you know if this improvement could be available in future release of Kicad ?

regards


Andy Eskelson
 

Personally I hate hierarchical sheets, I much prefer "large" drawings so
what I do is simply define a much bigger page size A3, A2, A0 or
whatever.

If you really need multiple sheets, the the way to treat this within the
existing kicad system is to just make a two level setup, with the top
level simply used as a placeholder for the other sheets. You can then use
the various connector labels between them. In other words you simply
forget the hierarchical nature of the top level.


Andy





On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:23:25 -0000
"sebastien.duvier" <sebastien.duvier@...> wrote:

Hello all,
I'm a new user of Kicad and I very astonished to discover all functionalities of this free software !
The only thing that I'm concern is the multiple sheet schematic : it doesn't seem to be possible to have a multiple sheet without hierarchical way.

Do you know if this improvement could be available in future release of Kicad ?

regards



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Hello Andy,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Do you know if it could be considered for the next version of Kicad ?
I saw that I'm not alone to expect this feature...
where can I submit (if it's not already did) this improvement to developpers team ?

regards

--- In kicad-users@..., Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@...> wrote:


Personally I hate hierarchical sheets, I much prefer "large" drawings so
what I do is simply define a much bigger page size A3, A2, A0 or
whatever.

If you really need multiple sheets, the the way to treat this within the
existing kicad system is to just make a two level setup, with the top
level simply used as a placeholder for the other sheets. You can then use
the various connector labels between them. In other words you simply
forget the hierarchical nature of the top level.


Andy





On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:23:25 -0000
"sebastien.duvier" <sebastien.duvier@...> wrote:

Hello all,
I'm a new user of Kicad and I very astonished to discover all functionalities of this free software !
The only thing that I'm concern is the multiple sheet schematic : it doesn't seem to be possible to have a multiple sheet without hierarchical way.

Do you know if this improvement could be available in future release of Kicad ?

regards



------------------------------------

Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question.
Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad.
Please visit for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library.
For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at ! Groups Links



Andy Eskelson
 

There are developer forums and the software repository, however the
developers do read the posts here so I expect that your comments have
already been picked up.

Andy





On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:33:45 -0000
"sebastien.duvier" <sebastien.duvier@...> wrote:

Hello Andy,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Do you know if it could be considered for the next version of Kicad ?
I saw that I'm not alone to expect this feature...
where can I submit (if it's not already did) this improvement to developpers team ?

regards

--- In kicad-users@..., Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@...> wrote:


Personally I hate hierarchical sheets, I much prefer "large" drawings so
what I do is simply define a much bigger page size A3, A2, A0 or
whatever.

If you really need multiple sheets, the the way to treat this within the
existing kicad system is to just make a two level setup, with the top
level simply used as a placeholder for the other sheets. You can then use
the various connector labels between them. In other words you simply
forget the hierarchical nature of the top level.


Andy





On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:23:25 -0000
"sebastien.duvier" <sebastien.duvier@...> wrote:

Hello all,
I'm a new user of Kicad and I very astonished to discover all functionalities of this free software !
The only thing that I'm concern is the multiple sheet schematic : it doesn't seem to be possible to have a multiple sheet without hierarchical way.

Do you know if this improvement could be available in future release of Kicad ?

regards



------------------------------------

Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question.
Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad.
Please visit for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library.
For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at ! Groups Links





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Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad.
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For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at ! Groups Links



Peter Bennett
 

On 7/18/2012 2:23 PM, sebastien.duvier wrote:
Hello all, I'm a new user of Kicad and I very astonished to discover
all functionalities of this free software ! The only thing that I'm
concern is the multiple sheet schematic : it doesn't seem to be
possible to have a multiple sheet without hierarchical way.

Do you know if this improvement could be available in future release
of Kicad ?

regards
It seems to me that if you have a multi-sheet schematic, you need some
way to show how those sheets are interconnected, both for KiCad and for
the user.

The most obvious way to show the connections between the sheets is to
have a "top-level" sheet as a sort of block diagram, with boxes
representing the individual sheets that show the actual schematic, and
wires between the blocks showing the interconnections. This does require some hierarchical capabilities.

How would you implement a multi-sheet schematic without using a "top-level" drawing?

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JorgeF_Tech
 

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Yes ;)

Big schematics in big sheets of paper with an A0 plotter available and a big table around.

Then some serious amount of careful folding to make it fit the remaining documentation, in a way that it can be unfolded without removing it from the booklet.

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A top sheet with placeholders for the others is not the only way, and probably not the best one. It isn¡¯t even a really hierarchy.

I usually use the hierarchical sheet system to mimic functionality.

My typical approach is to have a top sheet with the connectors to the outside world and, maybe, the power supply system and a placeholder (sub-sheet) for the remaining of it.

Then, one step down functional place-holders (sub-sheets) and the main signal and power distribution and buses.

Then, one step bellow, the electronics of the, above mentioned, functional placeholders (sub-sheets). And this ones will have as many sub-sheets as necessary to ?draw all of the electronics in an easy to read/locate way.

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Sebastian, as a ¡°new user of Kicad¡±, bear in mind that your schematic can have as many sheets as you wish/need, but it is only one board (PCB).

Don¡¯t try to use hierarchical sheets to handle multiple PCBs, and then come here asking for a way to design multiple PCBs from one schematic and asking how to include the board to board connectors in it.

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Best regards

Jorge

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De: kicad-users@... [mailto:kicad-users@...] Em nome de Andy Eskelson
Enviada: quinta-feira, 19 de Julho
de 2012 00:15
Para: kicad-users@...
Assunto: Re: [kicad-users] Multi sheet

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Personally I hate hierarchical sheets, I much prefer "large" drawings so
what I do is simply define a much bigger page size A3, A2, A0 or
whatever.

If you really need multiple sheets, the the way to treat this within the
existing kicad system is to just make a two level setup, with the top
level simply used as a placeholder for the other sheets. You can then use
the various connector labels between them. In other words you simply
forget the hierarchical nature of the top level.

Andy


On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:23:25 -0000
"sebastien.duvier" <sebastien.duvier@...> wrote:

> Hello all,
> I'm a new user of Kicad and I very astonished to discover all functionalities of this free software !
> The only thing that I'm concern is the multiple sheet schematic : it doesn't seem to be possible to have a multiple sheet without hierarchical way.
>
> Do you know if this improvement could be available in future release of Kicad ?
>
> regards
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question.
> Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad.
> Please visit for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library.
> For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at ! Groups Links
>
>
>


Andy Eskelson
 

Never had problems folding the big drawings up from new, but like large
maps, getting them folded after you open them is always a pain
especially if someone else folded them first. :-)

It was a very common practice on production engineering drawings, they
usually came in an A4 wad which you then opened up. I've used them so
many times that it's not surprising that I prefer the large drawings.

Andy





On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:38:18 +0100
"JorgeF_Tech" <jorgef.tech@...> wrote:



Hi



Yes ;)

Big schematics in big sheets of paper with an A0 plotter available and a big
table around.

Then some serious amount of careful folding to make it fit the remaining
documentation, in a way that it can be unfolded without removing it from the
booklet.


 

Is there any way to generate an index on a mutlisheet drawing?

What I'd like is something that provides a table of components and net
connections vs page and grid locations on the drawings.

Or have I just identified something I need to write?

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