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Re: Circuit simulation

 

I don't have any plain debian systems to confirm with, as my boxen are generally ubuntu variants, but they don't typically stray TOO far from debian.

I assume the ngspice library is actually in /usr/local/lib , correct?

check the files/etc/ld.so.conf and if the directory exists, the files inside /etc/ld.so.conf.d/
One of these files should contain the line
/usr/local/lib

If none of the files include the line, add it to /etc/ld.so.conf
(or read the man page for ldconfig for how to properly add it to a file inside /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ )

run?
sudo ldconfig
The program ought to be able to find it then.


Re: Circuit simulation

 

I never assume that it will actually find anything;). Too bloody many times I¡¯ve come across issues with software compiled on Unix and Unix like systems.

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:30 PM Lev <leventelist@...> wrote:
When compiling KiCad, cmake says it finds libngspice in /usr/local/lib. So I don't understand why it can't find it. Even KiCad's shared objects is located in?/usr/local/lib.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 00:53 G.Dragon <tregare@...> wrote:

Sorry, library path shell variable?

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM G.Dragon via Groups.Io <tregare=[email protected]> wrote:
Have you added the ngspice to the library directory she¡¯ll variable??

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:25 AM Lev <leventelist@...> wrote:
Dear List,


When I try to do circuit simulation, I get the following error:

Missing ngspice shared library

and

libngspice.so.0.0.0: Cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

I've compiled ngspice locally, and installed to /usr/local. Then
compiled KiCad, and it dinds ngspice libraries in /usr/local/. If I
set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it works.

I've read that others move the libraries to /usr, what I don't want to do.

Is there any way to explicitly tell KkiCad where to search for the libraries?


Thanks,
Levente




Re: Circuit simulation

 

When compiling KiCad, cmake says it finds libngspice in /usr/local/lib. So I don't understand why it can't find it. Even KiCad's shared objects is located in?/usr/local/lib.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 00:53 G.Dragon <tregare@...> wrote:

Sorry, library path shell variable?

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM G.Dragon via Groups.Io <tregare=[email protected]> wrote:
Have you added the ngspice to the library directory she¡¯ll variable??

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:25 AM Lev <leventelist@...> wrote:
Dear List,


When I try to do circuit simulation, I get the following error:

Missing ngspice shared library

and

libngspice.so.0.0.0: Cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

I've compiled ngspice locally, and installed to /usr/local. Then
compiled KiCad, and it dinds ngspice libraries in /usr/local/. If I
set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it works.

I've read that others move the libraries to /usr, what I don't want to do.

Is there any way to explicitly tell KkiCad where to search for the libraries?


Thanks,
Levente




Re: Circuit simulation

 


Sorry, library path shell variable?


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM G.Dragon via Groups.Io <tregare=[email protected]> wrote:
Have you added the ngspice to the library directory she¡¯ll variable??

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:25 AM Lev <leventelist@...> wrote:
Dear List,


When I try to do circuit simulation, I get the following error:

Missing ngspice shared library

and

libngspice.so.0.0.0: Cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

I've compiled ngspice locally, and installed to /usr/local. Then
compiled KiCad, and it dinds ngspice libraries in /usr/local/. If I
set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it works.

I've read that others move the libraries to /usr, what I don't want to do.

Is there any way to explicitly tell KkiCad where to search for the libraries?


Thanks,
Levente




Re: Circuit simulation

 

Have you added the ngspice to the library directory she¡¯ll variable??

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:25 AM Lev <leventelist@...> wrote:
Dear List,


When I try to do circuit simulation, I get the following error:

Missing ngspice shared library

and

libngspice.so.0.0.0: Cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

I've compiled ngspice locally, and installed to /usr/local. Then
compiled KiCad, and it dinds ngspice libraries in /usr/local/. If I
set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it works.

I've read that others move the libraries to /usr, what I don't want to do.

Is there any way to explicitly tell KkiCad where to search for the libraries?


Thanks,
Levente




Re: Circuit simulation

 

Oh yes, sorry I forgot this.

Debian stable, KiCad 5.1.4, ngspice-31


Thanks,
Levente

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:35 PM ng10066504jan via Groups.Io
<ng10066504jan@...> wrote:

What operating system are you using, and what version of Ki-Cad? (Don't get hopes up... *I* still won't know answer... but if you supply that info, someone else may be quicker to respond.)


On Thursday, 7 November 2019, 14:25:28 GMT, Lev <leventelist@...> wrote:


Dear List,


When I try to do circuit simulation, I get the following error:

Missing ngspice shared library

and

libngspice.so.0.0.0: Cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

I've compiled ngspice locally, and installed to /usr/local. Then
compiled KiCad, and it dinds ngspice libraries in /usr/local/. If I
set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it works.

I've read that others move the libraries to /usr, what I don't want to do.

Is there any way to explicitly tell KkiCad where to search for the libraries?


Thanks,
Levente




Re: Circuit simulation

 

What operating system are you using, and what version of Ki-Cad? (Don't get hopes up... *I* still won't know answer... but if you supply that info, someone else may be quicker to respond.)


On Thursday, 7 November 2019, 14:25:28 GMT, Lev <leventelist@...> wrote:


Dear List,


When I try to do circuit simulation, I get the following error:

Missing ngspice shared library

and

libngspice.so.0.0.0: Cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

I've compiled ngspice locally, and installed to /usr/local. Then
compiled KiCad, and it dinds ngspice libraries in /usr/local/. If I
set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it works.

I've read that others move the libraries to /usr, what I don't want to do.

Is there any way to explicitly tell KkiCad where to search for the libraries?


Thanks,
Levente




Circuit simulation

 

Dear List,


When I try to do circuit simulation, I get the following error:

Missing ngspice shared library

and

libngspice.so.0.0.0: Cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

I've compiled ngspice locally, and installed to /usr/local. Then
compiled KiCad, and it dinds ngspice libraries in /usr/local/. If I
set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it works.

I've read that others move the libraries to /usr, what I don't want to do.

Is there any way to explicitly tell KkiCad where to search for the libraries?


Thanks,
Levente


Re: How is the migration getting along?

 

Thanks for doing that. Much appreciated.

Cheers

Ian


Re: How is the migration getting along?

 

I created one:



Cheers,
Anil

On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 17:16, Ian Bell <ianthompsonbell@...> wrote:
Yes, I need to work out how to out in a pull request to github. I have still got a lot to do on other groups where the transfer is being done manually. Yesterday I finally got the download of all the data and messages of all the other groups I belong to!

Cheers

Ian


Re: How is the migration getting along?

 

Happy to help if I can (have not done this before).

On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 20:16, Ian Bell <ianthompsonbell@...> wrote:
Yes, I need to work out how to out in a pull request to github. I have still got a lot to do on other groups where the transfer is being done manually. Yesterday I finally got the download of all the data and messages of all the other groups I belong to!

Cheers

Ian

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Peter Dalmaris, PhD



--
Kind regards,

Peter Dalmaris, PhD

Founder, Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked


Re: How is the migration getting along?

 

Yes, I need to work out how to out in a pull request to github. I have still got a lot to do on other groups where the transfer is being done manually. Yesterday I finally got the download of all the data and messages of all the other groups I belong to!

Cheers

Ian


Re: How is the migration getting along?

 

Wayne does do much in the way of maintaining the website, but it's easy enough to put in a pull request that fixes the url on github.

?

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 6:20 PM Peter Dalmaris <peter@...> wrote:
Hi Ian, I noticed that the User Mailing List (under community) link at??still points to the Yahoo group.

Perhaps ask Wayne to fix it?
--??
Kind regards,

Peter Dalmaris, PhD

Founder, Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a Pro

@futureshocked


Re: How is the migration getting along?

 

Hi Ian, I noticed that the User Mailing List (under community) link at?http://www.kicad-pcb.org/?still points to the Yahoo group.

Perhaps ask Wayne to fix it?
--??
Kind regards,

Peter Dalmaris, PhD

Founder, Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked


Re: PCB Assembly services, your experiences? #pcb-manufacture

 

Good question. Anyone?
--
Kind regards,

Peter Dalmaris, PhD

Founder, Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked


Re: PCB Assembly services, your experiences? #pcb-manufacture

 

The services I mentioned do not limit which parts to use. But they have a cache of parts that are quickly accessible, so if you use those part your board is made much faster.
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Kind regards,

Peter Dalmaris, PhD

Founder, Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked


Re: Autorouter #auturouter

 

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FreeRoute is not bundled with KiCad but all support necessary is present, as explained bellow.

There are some copyright issues threats with FreeRoute but it is GPL all right...

Alain

Em 04/11/2019 14:06, ng10066504jan via Groups.Io escreveu:

Seen elsewhere, from 2 Nov 19...

* I can't vouch for accuracy * (but seemed likely-true, useful!)....

Autorouter and the legacy toolset has been dropped from KiCad... (with effect from from V.5?)

Now you can use Freeroute. Go to File->Export->Specctra DNS...

For a related TEE-Shirt, go to the following. It is said that profits will go to the KiCad project...



Autorouter #auturouter

 

Seen elsewhere, from 2 Nov 19...

* I can't vouch for accuracy * (but seemed likely-true, useful!)....

Autorouter and the legacy toolset has been dropped from KiCad... (with effect from from V.5?)

Now you can use Freeroute. Go to File->Export->Specctra DNS...

For a related TEE-Shirt, go to the following. It is said that profits will go to the KiCad project...


Re: Dissatisfied with group transfer

 

another thanks for moving to , I walked away from the original post in this thread because i was tempted to reply nastily and the list doesn't need that feces...


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 5:47 AM nbxmike <mike@...> wrote:
I picked my primary care physician because of his negative comments; a former patient complained he believed in vaccines.? At least one time that I remember, I was at a standards committee arguing a point when I realized that the only engineers on my side were the ones that were well know knuckleheads; I retracted my objection immediately.? This thread is very similar, the feedback of an idiot can pretty well tell you if what you're doing is on the right track.

Thanks for the move and for confirming that there are still people who the blame problems of their own creation on someone else.


Re: PCB Assembly services, your experiences? #pcb-manufacture

 

For high demand stuff, I go to?


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 6:35 PM camilo tejeiro <camilo.tejeiro@...> wrote:

Quick question, does any one know any fab that can do sub 75um (3 mils) on PCBs? (in case anyone has come across this)

Anything below 75um would probably be lithography based and very expensive but just wondering. (seems Sierra circuits and? Omni PCB are the only manufacturers with these capabilities)


On 11/1/19 9:06 AM, abchin486 wrote:
Circuithub is the same concept. I like them too...Macrofab is cheaper, but for all I know....they are just producing the stuff overseas when it is no longer a prototype service. In all...I think this quoting process is the future of manufacturing.?

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 8:38 AM nbxmike <mike@...> wrote:
At my last job we used .? They take Kicad projects and build your BOM online which makes takes care of the parts problem pretty simply.? I can't say they're cheap or expensive, I don't have enough experience with short run manufacturers - I know when we looked at real production quantities they were more expensive than traditional assembly houses.? I live near Boston and there are still a decent number of smaller contract manufacturers who are very good for production.

Their online tools are good, now that they support Kicad again (they were caught unaware with the 4 to 5 file format changes.)? I've loaded boards there and used their component selection tool just to create my initial AVL, their lead time tool makes it pretty easy to tune cost versus delivery.? For my projects they, and everyone I checked with, were too expensive for me to justify for hobby boards.
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Camilo Tejeiro