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Re: I am sending for prototipe boards of my kicad design can some people look?

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Hi Josh,
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I did a very quick review for the KiCAD parts.? See attached file.
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Thanks for sharing your design,
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Subject: [kicad-users] I am sending for prototipe boards of my kicad design can some people look?

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I am sending for prototipe boards of my kicad design can some people look?

It is ncp_base_8.zip

It is kicad and the libraries are in the library or schematic library folder their is a parts list and footprints in mod or footprints.

Its purpose is in peer reviewed articles on EMG decoding useing Linear Discriminant analisis they clasified EMG signals to detect indivigual hand or finger movements in real time.

So check out my kicad open source project and please tell me of any problems you find.

I tried to simplify it and did not use the onboard GPIO.
The processor I am using with it is the leaflabs maple ARM processor that can be programmed like the arduino.

The DLP FT2232H is a high speed USB chip to allow for future additions of more ads1298 EMG EEG system chips & their is a capacitive electrode design that is not quite finished.
The software uses LDA linear discriminant analisis so if anyone wants to help with that great.





Hide module values

 

Is there a way to hide module values and only show module references on the screen? I understand that they can be turned off during gerber creation. Using kicad "wxWidgets 2.8.10 Unicode
on 64 Bits GNU/Linux"

Thanks!


Where did "Undo" go?

 

Hi, When I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.04 to 10.04LTS amd64, I reinstalled Kicad. So now I am running kicad "wxWidgets 2.8.10 Unicode
on 64 Bits GNU/Linux".

I can't seem to find "Undo"! Is it gone?

Thanks!


I am sending for prototipe boards of my kicad design can some people look?

 

I am sending for prototipe boards of my kicad design can some people look?

It is ncp_base_8.zip

It is kicad and the libraries are in the library or schematic library folder their is a parts list and footprints in mod or footprints.

Its purpose is in peer reviewed articles on EMG decoding useing Linear Discriminant analisis they clasified EMG signals to detect indivigual hand or finger movements in real time.

So check out my kicad open source project and please tell me of any problems you find.

I tried to simplify it and did not use the onboard GPIO.
The processor I am using with it is the leaflabs maple ARM processor that can be programmed like the arduino.

The DLP FT2232H is a high speed USB chip to allow for future additions of more ads1298 EMG EEG system chips & their is a capacitive electrode design that is not quite finished.
The software uses LDA linear discriminant analisis so if anyone wants to help with that great.



Re: circular circuit board

 

I just wanted to thank you, Bernd, for giving me an idea for how to do curved tracks (or more accurately I guess I should be thanking your skull and crossbones, which is what piqued my curiosity and got me thinking). It's far from ideal, but the resulting Gerbers look OK so at least it's possible. What I have done is created sets of curves on the copper layer by using the module editor to switch graphical arcs on to the copper layer. Then at each end of each arc I placed an SMT pad that was sized such that its diameter equalled the width of the arc. In EESchema wherever I needed a set of curved tracks in the PCB design I added a double-row connector and set the footprint to be the appropriate set of curved tracks. Obviously this doesn't exactly make PCB layout quick and easy and the schematic looks weird, but at least it works, and in my case I was just designing an FFC so it was fairly straightforward. The biggest danger I can see is that there is no DRC on the curves, so one needs to be careful creating them. However, some DRC is better than none (such as if one used a mechanical CAD package).

Eagle is one of the few usable and affordable packages that does do proper curved tracks, but creating an FFC with Kicad was less painful than struggling with the (to me) unfamiliar and somewhat antiquated Eagle UI.

Regards,

Robert.

--- In kicad-users@..., Bernd Wiebus <bernd.wiebus@...> wrote:

Hello

Is it possible to make a circular printed circuit board using
kicad?
Yes and no.

Yes, because you can draw round tracks and no, because at my older
version from 05-05-2010 the arc tool will not work at copper layes, but
only at graphical layers.

So you have to draw copper tracks by adding many pices of small tracks.
As a help tool, you can draw an arc at a grphical layer, and than draw
the copper tacks along this arc. After this, erase the grapfical arc.

You can see such doing at:

It is done quick and dirty just to show people at a forum what i mean.
The bone and skull at the bottom of the picture is done at the module
editor.

Perhaps newer versions of KiCAD can draw arcs at cooper layers. I dont
know, because i use Debian lenny and have to wait for an Ubuntu 8.10
backport to get it run. :-(
Also i have trouble to get the new sources from bazaar, because bazzar
always is some releases ahead of the Debian bzr and will not accept it,
and the debian backport of bzr with the right version gets always some
packet collisions . :-(

With best regards: Bernd Wiebus alias dl1eic



Re: copying/moving artwork to a different layer in module editor

 

The menu entry is in the module editor. I used it myself a couple of
weeks ago to draw sets of curved "tracks" on the copper layer (by
default graphics go on the Silk layer).

As for kicad being useful or not, I've created a number of boards with it and I'm impressed. I find that whilst it has rough edges, it does the fundamental job of creating working PCBs very well indeed.

Regards,

Robert.

On 10/02/2011 22:46, DanielLC_Boca wrote:
Is that in the Module editor or the PCB editor (pcbnew)? As I
mentioned in the second part of the question, I was working on
artwork imported into a module with bitmap2component.

I suppose the module file is also ascii, so I could probably edit
that one by hand as well.....

In any case, the PCBs are being fabricated and I'll have them next
week. I'll see how useful KiCAD truly is when I get them.

Daniel

--- In kicad-users@..., Robert<birmingham_spider@...>
wrote:

There is an entry on the menu to change all the lines from one
layer to another.

Regards,

Robert.


On 09/02/2011 22:26, Andy Eskelson wrote:
Select the graphic with a right click, select edit, change the
layer in the drop down.

The only problem is that you may have to select each line
individually.

This is one time where diving into the brd file with a text
editor might be easier.


Andy


On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:17:47 -0000
"DanielLC_Boca"<daniel.cross@...> wrote:

Anyone want to take a stab at answering this one?

--- In kicad-users@...,
"DanielLC_Boca"<daniel.cross@> wrote:

I have 2 related questions.

First, is it possible to copy or move artwork to a different
layer in Module editor? Specifically, I have artwork on
SoldP_Back and I want it on SilkS_Front.

The background is that the artwork was imported into the
module using bitmap2component, which brings up the related
question: Is it possible to control which layer the artwork
is placed on when using bitmap2component?

Thanks, Daniel



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Re: global pcb footprint update

 

Rohan:

In the module editor, you need to save the modified footprint to an existing (or new) library. It is not so straightforward, but here are the steps:

1) Set the working library (it's the first button on the left) -- or, create a new library (third button).
2) Save the updated module under a new name.
3) If you created a new library, you have to add it to the project.

4) Finally, you can update all the components that use the new footprint in CVpcb (OK, that's manual but they should all be in order if you named them in a reasonable way). Reread the netlist in pcbnew, making sure to check "Change" under Exchange Module. All the components should update to the new footprint.

Daniel

--- In kicad-users@..., "Rohan Dervankar" wrote:
>
> For example , i just assigned 1/4w resistor footprint to 1/2w resistor. since i dont have 1/2w resistor footprint. then after reading the netlist in pcbnew. i go in to edit model of 1/4w resistot footprint. when i edit a single resistor footprint in modellib there is option for only changing tht particular footprint which i m editing. i m not able to update all the same modules. Kicad creaters pls add this feature in software.
>
> everybody getting what i m trying to say.pls reply on this topic.
>


Re: copying/moving artwork to a different layer in module editor

 

Is that in the Module editor or the PCB editor (pcbnew)? As I mentioned in the second part of the question, I was working on artwork imported into a module with bitmap2component.

I suppose the module file is also ascii, so I could probably edit that one by hand as well.....

In any case, the PCBs are being fabricated and I'll have them next week. I'll see how useful KiCAD truly is when I get them.

Daniel

--- In kicad-users@..., Robert <birmingham_spider@...> wrote:

There is an entry on the menu to change all the lines from one layer to
another.

Regards,

Robert.


On 09/02/2011 22:26, Andy Eskelson wrote:
Select the graphic with a right click, select edit, change the layer in
the drop down.

The only problem is that you may have to select each line individually.

This is one time where diving into the brd file with a text editor might
be easier.


Andy


On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:17:47 -0000
"DanielLC_Boca"<daniel.cross@...> wrote:

Anyone want to take a stab at answering this one?

--- In kicad-users@..., "DanielLC_Boca"<daniel.cross@> wrote:

I have 2 related questions.

First, is it possible to copy or move artwork to a different layer in Module editor? Specifically, I have artwork on SoldP_Back and I want it on SilkS_Front.

The background is that the artwork was imported into the module using bitmap2component, which brings up the related question: Is it possible to control which layer the artwork is placed on when using bitmap2component?

Thanks,
Daniel



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Re: Automatic Footprint Output PDF generator?

Andy Eskelson
 

No, not to my knowledge.

Doing things the other way around is the recommended method, so I guess
that is what most people do. It would not be that difficult to write a
script, but by the time you have sorted out the modules to include, and
grouped them into various libraries you have already done most of the work
anyway, so you may as well just drop them onto a blank board.

Andy


On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:59:19 -0000
"Timothy" <duhlynn@...> wrote:

So an automated dummy board generator does not exist?

I thought there might be a script that takes a module file(or files) and automatically generates a board file with all the footprints within a module and then prints a pdf.

--- In kicad-users@..., Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@... wrote:

If you have a read of the pcbnew help document, you will find that it
describes a method of module management. see section 11.11

Unfortunately you (like I did at first) just started adding things as
needed without looking at the documentation requirements.

I hope that you have saved your modules into your own directory (another
error I made at first) if so it will be easy enough to just place them
onto dummy boards.

Basically you place your own modules (in whatever groupings you want)
onto separate A4 sized dummy boards. These can then be printed off in
the same manner as the existing standard libs.

From such a board you can create the actual library via filearchive
footprints / create footprint archive

Andy



On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:02:46 -0000
"Timothy" <duhlynn@... wrote:

Is there a way I can quickly view all the footprints I have added. Not the text name, but the actual graphics.

Is there a script out there that will automatically place footprints across several layout pages and print them to a pdf?

I was wondering if the footprints.pdf that comes with Kicad was auto-generated or was it hand placed?










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Re: Automatic Footprint Output PDF generator?

 

So an automated dummy board generator does not exist?

I thought there might be a script that takes a module file(or files) and automatically generates a board file with all the footprints within a module and then prints a pdf.

--- In kicad-users@..., Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@... wrote:

If you have a read of the pcbnew help document, you will find that it
describes a method of module management. see section 11.11

Unfortunately you (like I did at first) just started adding things as
needed without looking at the documentation requirements.

I hope that you have saved your modules into your own directory (another
error I made at first) if so it will be easy enough to just place them
onto dummy boards.

Basically you place your own modules (in whatever groupings you want)
onto separate A4 sized dummy boards. These can then be printed off in
the same manner as the existing standard libs.

From such a board you can create the actual library via filearchive
footprints / create footprint archive

Andy



On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:02:46 -0000
"Timothy" <duhlynn@... wrote:

Is there a way I can quickly view all the footprints I have added. Not the text name, but the actual graphics.

Is there a script out there that will automatically place footprints across several layout pages and print them to a pdf?

I was wondering if the footprints.pdf that comes with Kicad was auto-generated or was it hand placed?


Re: Automatic Footprint Output PDF generator?

Andy Eskelson
 

If you have a read of the pcbnew help document, you will find that it
describes a method of module management. see section 11.11

Unfortunately you (like I did at first) just started adding things as
needed without looking at the documentation requirements.

I hope that you have saved your modules into your own directory (another
error I made at first) if so it will be easy enough to just place them
onto dummy boards.

Basically you place your own modules (in whatever groupings you want)
onto separate A4 sized dummy boards. These can then be printed off in
the same manner as the existing standard libs.

From such a board you can create the actual library via file>archive
footprints / create footprint archive

Andy



On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:02:46 -0000
"Timothy" <duhlynn@...> wrote:

Is there a way I can quickly view all the footprints I have added. Not the text name, but the actual graphics.

Is there a script out there that will automatically place footprints across several layout pages and print them to a pdf?

I was wondering if the footprints.pdf that comes with Kicad was auto-generated or was it hand placed?






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Re: Wish list (Alignment Tools)

 

I'd like to see object alignment tools in future releases.


Automatic Footprint Output PDF generator?

 

Is there a way I can quickly view all the footprints I have added. Not the text name, but the actual graphics.

Is there a script out there that will automatically place footprints across several layout pages and print them to a pdf?

I was wondering if the footprints.pdf that comes with Kicad was auto-generated or was it hand placed?


Re: Wish list

 

I wish on the visibles window there was a method for grouping items so I could quickly turn on/off layers with a single click. Perhaps have several pre-defined groups based on layers (front and back) or type (copper, solderpaste, mask, silkscreen) in addition to allowing the user to make his own groupings.

Examples:
Front Group [Checkbox]
Back Group [Checkbox]
Silkscreen Group [Checkbox]
Copper Group [Checkbox]


Re: Dutch?

Jos
 

Same here,
now I am a Dutchman but I run all my programs in English as most forums use the English language.

I just thought that looking at my IP address Kicad concluded that I would want the Dutch version.

I found some translations (in Dutch) a bit weird.

After some searching I found out how to back to English.

This makes it a lot easier to ask questions on this forum and use the right words.

I have Windows7 and it works just fine.

Jos

--- In kicad-users@..., Robert <birmingham_spider@...> wrote:

Was it just my bad luck that (2011-01-22 BZR 2754)-stable on Windows
fired up in (I think) Dutch the first time I ran it? Or as Google
would put it "Was het gewoon mijn pech dat (2011-01-22 BZR 2754) stabiel
op Windows ontslagen in (denk ik) het Nederlands de eerste keer dat ik
liep het?". Thankfully I know a bit of German, which helped, but it
was still a bit of a struggle to find the right menu to get kicad back
into a more familiar language.

Is this an attempt to get kicad users to learn a new language this year
(preferably one of the second languages less commonly learnt)?

Regards,

Robert.

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Re: Dutch?

 

The last time I tried a Google Dutch->English translation the result was so incomprehensible that I found it easier to struggle through the original Dutch, so nice to know that I guessed correctly it would come up with something wacky going in the reverse direction. It's a lot better than it was though, if less fun; it now seems to know about those potentially emabarrassing differences between US English and British English.

"Terug naar de maling"...

Robert.

On 10/02/2011 00:48, serge.vereecke wrote:
Hi,

You probably wanted to say "was het juist pech dat (2011-01-22 BZR 2754)-stabiel op Windows de allereerste keer opstartte in het Nederlands?" , In our country (Belgium) it pays to be bi- tri- or quadri- lingual , and even more so to be fluent in more then one.
Google translation does not guarantee 100% effectivity.
fired = ontslagen = loose your job
fired up = opgestart = to put in motion,to start up
Hilarious google-translations are always a source of fun , worth a giggle.

--- In kicad-users@..., Robert<birmingham_spider@...> wrote:

Was it just my bad luck that (2011-01-22 BZR 2754)-stable on Windows
fired up in (I think) Dutch the first time I ran it? Or as Google
would put it "Was het gewoon mijn pech dat (2011-01-22 BZR 2754) stabiel
op Windows ontslagen in (denk ik) het Nederlands de eerste keer dat ik
liep het?". Thankfully I know a bit of German, which helped, but it
was still a bit of a struggle to find the right menu to get kicad back
into a more familiar language.

Is this an attempt to get kicad users to learn a new language this year
(preferably one of the second languages less commonly learnt)?

Regards,

Robert.

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Re: copying/moving artwork to a different layer in module editor

 

There is an entry on the menu to change all the lines from one layer to another.

Regards,

Robert.

On 09/02/2011 22:26, Andy Eskelson wrote:
Select the graphic with a right click, select edit, change the layer in
the drop down.

The only problem is that you may have to select each line individually.

This is one time where diving into the brd file with a text editor might
be easier.


Andy


On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:17:47 -0000
"DanielLC_Boca"<daniel.cross@...> wrote:

Anyone want to take a stab at answering this one?

--- In kicad-users@..., "DanielLC_Boca"<daniel.cross@...> wrote:

I have 2 related questions.

First, is it possible to copy or move artwork to a different layer in Module editor? Specifically, I have artwork on SoldP_Back and I want it on SilkS_Front.

The background is that the artwork was imported into the module using bitmap2component, which brings up the related question: Is it possible to control which layer the artwork is placed on when using bitmap2component?

Thanks,
Daniel



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Re: Dutch?

 

Hi,

you know the moment you mentioned it, I just had to try this!
Do my eyes deceive me or did it say "Kajak de Grote Oceaan over"
which translates as "Take a kayak and paddle across the Great Ocean"
and it even says to go to Seattle first!
Some guys have too much time on their hands , that got past the Google management unscaved and undetected.
THNX , nice joke.

--- In kicad-users@..., kajdas <kajdas@...> wrote:

the same as you do not want to follow Google's maps directions from "Los Angeles, USA" to "Tokyo, Japan"
;-)

---- "serge.vereecke" <serge.vereecke@...> wrote:

=============
Hi,

You probably wanted to say "was het juist pech dat (2011-01-22 BZR 2754)-stabiel op Windows de allereerste keer opstartte in het Nederlands?" , In our country (Belgium) it pays to be bi- tri- or quadri- lingual , and even more so to be fluent in more then one.
Google translation does not guarantee 100% effectivity.
fired = ontslagen = loose your job
fired up = opgestart = to put in motion,to start up
Hilarious google-translations are always a source of fun , worth a giggle.


Re: Dutch?

 

the same as you do not want to follow Google's maps directions from "Los Angeles, USA" to "Tokyo, Japan"
;-)

---- "serge.vereecke" <serge.vereecke@...> wrote:

=============
Hi,

You probably wanted to say "was het juist pech dat (2011-01-22 BZR 2754)-stabiel op Windows de allereerste keer opstartte in het Nederlands?" , In our country (Belgium) it pays to be bi- tri- or quadri- lingual , and even more so to be fluent in more then one.
Google translation does not guarantee 100% effectivity.
fired = ontslagen = loose your job
fired up = opgestart = to put in motion,to start up
Hilarious google-translations are always a source of fun , worth a giggle.


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