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Re: How to copy a PCB

Andy Eskelson
 

Hi Sudipta, and welcome.

What do you mean by "copy" a PCB


Kicad is a PCB DESIGN suite, you first design the circuit, then assign
the component modules, then you can start to create the PCB, laying out
the tracks and so on.

Once you have designed the PCB there are tools which allow you to place
multiple copies of that design on a PCB. This is often used when you have
a small board, and you want to have many duplicates made in order to
reduce costs. This is often referred to as panellising.


If you want to take an existing PCB and make a copy of that, then no
Kicad is not that sort of program.

I have reverse engineered a few old circuits (fairly simple stuff) in
order to resurrect some old obsolete item of equipment, but I generally
trace out the circuit enter than into eeschema and then go through the
normal Kicad process, except that I have a old pcb that I can use as a
reference when laying out the tracks.


Andy






On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:39:58 -0000
"Sudipta, VU3TKG" <oneghose@...> wrote:

Hi all!
This is my first post in this group. Thanks for allowing me in.
My question is can I copy a PCB in KICAD? With a new design the proven circuit with spurious free RF performance may be difficult to obtain.
What the group thinks?
Regards,
Sudipta Ghose




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Re: How to copy a PCB

Mitch Davis
 

** Ranty soapbox here, if you don't like ranty soapboxes, just ignore this.

Hello Sudipta,

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Sudipta, VU3TKG <oneghose@...> wrote:

This is my first post in this group.
Welcome to the group! This is a great place to ask KiCad questions.

My question is can I copy a PCB in KICAD?
I get a bit nervous when I hear the word "copy". Conjures up images
of stolen homework and the breaking of licenses.

At the risk of making myself unpopular, and taking a different
approach to the other replies, I'm wondering if you are entitled to
make a copy.

Whether the design is under an open license or not, there are still
conditions that you have to meet in order to copy the board. If it's
not an open license, you would need the permission of the board
design's owner in order to copy it.

If the original board has good RF properties, it's not by accident.
it's because some fine engineer knew what he was doing. Copying
that's not permitted doesn't reward him for his effort.

Mitch.


Re: How to copy a PCB

Richard
 

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Hi
I have copied a job by just copying the whole directory with a new name.
Or you could save the old job to a memory stick and continue your work on the old job.

Richard

On 13.07.2012 14:31, Richard Webb wrote:

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--- In kicad-users@..., "Sudipta, VU3TKG" wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> This is my first post in this group. Thanks for allowing me in.
> My question is can I copy a PCB in KICAD? With a new design the proven circuit with spurious free RF performance may be difficult to obtain.

I don't know of a simple way to cut and paste between PCB projects. Doing so raises the issue of the mapping between a project netlist (from the schematic) and the resulting PCB copy, so it's not as simple as a Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V.

It is possible to use a text editor and copy module sections from one .brd file to another but this doesn't solve the reference designator problem.

What I would do in a similar case would be to make a "master" schematic and PCB layout project that contained the key elements and that had a good DRC/ERC check. Then copy the whole project to a new directory and make the changes there.




Re: How to copy a PCB

Richard Webb
 

--- In kicad-users@..., "Sudipta, VU3TKG" <oneghose@...> wrote:

Hi all!
This is my first post in this group. Thanks for allowing me in.
My question is can I copy a PCB in KICAD? With a new design the proven circuit with spurious free RF performance may be difficult to obtain.
I don't know of a simple way to cut and paste between PCB projects. Doing so raises the issue of the mapping between a project netlist (from the schematic) and the resulting PCB copy, so it's not as simple as a Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V.

It is possible to use a text editor and copy module sections from one .brd file to another but this doesn't solve the reference designator problem.

What I would do in a similar case would be to make a "master" schematic and PCB layout project that contained the key elements and that had a good DRC/ERC check. Then copy the whole project to a new directory and make the changes there.


How to copy a PCB

Sudipta, VU3TKG
 

Hi all!
This is my first post in this group. Thanks for allowing me in.
My question is can I copy a PCB in KICAD? With a new design the proven circuit with spurious free RF performance may be difficult to obtain.
What the group thinks?
Regards,
Sudipta Ghose


Re: Yahoo has allegedly been hacked

 



> The dazzlepod site lets you type in your email address (or even
> better, part of your email address), and you can check to see if yours
> appears in the search result.

for faster results, provide both username and password... ;-)



Re: Yahoo has allegedly been hacked

Carl Cravens
 

I never used the Voices service and my email address was on the list.

On 07/12/2012 10:36 AM, Mitch Davis wrote:
It seems that the service that was hacked is Yahoo! Voices, so if you
didn't use that service, I'm guessing you won't be on the list.
--
Carl D Cravens (raven@...)
If I want your opinion, I'll take you out of my killfile.


Re: Yahoo has allegedly been hacked

Mitch Davis
 

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Robert <birmingham_spider@...> wrote:

I've just been warned by the moderator of another Yahoo group that:

"Yahoo has recently been hacked and 450,000 accounts have had their
email address AND password published in clear text.

Please check your account urgently at and if
yours is listed please change your password as soon as possible."
I initially thought that the dazzlepod website was some sort of
phishing thing, but it seems that yes, a number of acccounts from
Yahoo! have been leaked:



The dazzlepod site lets you type in your email address (or even
better, part of your email address), and you can check to see if yours
appears in the search result.

It seems that the service that was hacked is Yahoo! Voices, so if you
didn't use that service, I'm guessing you won't be on the list.

Mitch.


Yahoo has allegedly been hacked

 

I've just been warned by the moderator of another Yahoo group that:

"Yahoo has recently been hacked and 450,000 accounts have had their email address AND password published in clear text.

Please check your account urgently at and if yours is listed please change your password as soon as possible."

I don't know how true this is, but I thought members of Kicad Users would rather be warned than get hacked. I can tell you that I didn't get any warnings when I visited the above link and I have quite a few defence mechanisms in place. Also other sites are reporting this.

If anyone knows better, please say so.

Regards,

Robert.


Re: Component position files in metric format possible?

 

Currently, the only way to do so without external processing but only using KiCAD is getting the KiCAD sources, modify pcbnew/gen_modules_placefile.cpp and change the #if 1 into #if 0 so that the unit conversion would be hardcoded to be in millimeters.

Then you'll have to compile and install the compiled KiCAD.. I understand this is not optimal, but worked perfectly for me in real product production.

Hope this helps,

Fabio Varesano

On 07/12/2012 01:45 AM, oecherexpat wrote:
Hi all,

Does anyone know if it is possible to have the component position file
done in metric format (rather than imperial)?
I am using fine-pitch connectors and my contract manufacturer
mentioned that it would be easier and more accurate because their
system apparently works better with metric inputs.

Thanks, Heiko


Re: Component position files in metric format possible?

 

Yes, I simply ran it through Libreoffice and added 2 more columns with converted positions - is's simple factor after all.
Will see how it goes.

But I thought it might be possible in Kicad as it is possible to chose imperial/metric when creating Gerber files.

Cheers, Heiko

--- In kicad-users@..., Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@...> wrote:


Kicad works in imperial internally, I think it's grid is 0.0001, might be
0.00001 I'm not 100% sure. So any metric output would be a simple
conversion.

I find it strange that a manufacturer cannot handle both formats, but if
it is really that important I would write a script to do the conversion
as needed.


Andy


Re: Component position files in metric format possible?

Andy Eskelson
 

Kicad works in imperial internally, I think it's grid is 0.0001, might be
0.00001 I'm not 100% sure. So any metric output would be a simple
conversion.

I find it strange that a manufacturer cannot handle both formats, but if
it is really that important I would write a script to do the conversion
as needed.


Andy



On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:45:45 -0000
"oecherexpat" <schwede.alter@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know if it is possible to have the component position file done in metric format (rather than imperial)?
I am using fine-pitch connectors and my contract manufacturer mentioned that it would be easier and more accurate because their system apparently works better with metric inputs.

Thanks, Heiko



------------------------------------

Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question.
Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad.
Please visit for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library.
For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at ! Groups Links



Component position files in metric format possible?

 

Hi all,

Does anyone know if it is possible to have the component position file done in metric format (rather than imperial)?
I am using fine-pitch connectors and my contract manufacturer mentioned that it would be easier and more accurate because their system apparently works better with metric inputs.

Thanks, Heiko


Re: Problem with e-mail format

 

Digest only has problem. Change to one email per message. (Plain text only is my recommendation.)

Donald.
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*Plain Text* email -- it's an accessibility issue
() no proprietary attachments; no html mail
/&#92; ascii ribbon campaign - <www.asciiribbon.org>

----- Original Message -----
From: "cpudave50" <davideth@...>
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 11:07:25 AM
Subject: [kicad-users] Problem with e-mail format
Problem with new e-mail format.

Since Yahoo groups changed the e-mail format, the e-mails are poorly
readable. The menu and first message are fine, but all subsequent
messages are a mess.

Each
word
is
on
a
single
line
like
this.

Example:

The
founder
is
truly
a
special
person.

Without
bitterness
he
accepts
the
facts.

Hope
someone
will
help
him
back
on

Please fix this!





------------------------------------

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your question.
Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the
creator of Kicad.
Please visit for details of how to contribute
your symbols/modules to the kicad library.
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! Groups Links



Re: Problem with e-mail format

 

Email format was changed? I see no issues on my machine. What email client you use? If it is web mail, I'd try purging browser cache....

IK



From: cpudave50
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 11:07:25 AM
Subject: [kicad-users] Problem with e-mail format

?

Problem with new e-mail format.

Since Yahoo groups changed the e-mail format, the e-mails are poorly readable. The menu and first message are fine, but all subsequent messages are a mess.

Each
word
is
on
a
single
line
like
this.

Example:

The
founder
is
truly
a
special
person.

Without
bitterness
he
accepts
the
facts.

Hope
someone
will
help
him
back
on

Please fix this!




Problem with e-mail format

 

Problem with new e-mail format.

Since Yahoo groups changed the e-mail format, the e-mails are poorly readable. The menu and first message are fine, but all subsequent messages are a mess.

Each
word
is
on
a
single
line
like
this.

Example:

The
founder
is
truly
a
special
person.

Without
bitterness
he
accepts
the
facts.

Hope
someone
will
help
him
back
on

Please fix this!


How o make pcb side pads

 

Hi, i have two questions. One related to kicad and other to general pcb manufacture.

I want to develop a few pcb modules to be solderable on other PCBs. The pads i want to use are QFN like. Something close to these blue tooth modules. How can i place such pad on a PCB with kicad? Maybe a PTH pad placed at the corner of the board? Just to make clear, i want to make my PCB to be solderable on other PCBs.?

The second question is if that kind of pad is a common feature to request from a PCB house or i will have problems with that?

Thank you!

--
Lu¨ªs Filipe Rossi
Electrical Engineer
Biomechatronics Lab. / Grupo de Sensores Integr¨¢veis e Sistemas
Escola Polit¨¦cnica
Universidade de S?o Paulo
Cel. +55 (11) 7662-9234


Re: Changing Grid resolution in module editor

 

--- In kicad-users@..., "murray.lindeblom" <murray.lindeblom@...> wrote:

I am unable to change the grid resolution in the module editor as the preference option is not available.

Right click on board > grid select


Changing Grid resolution in module editor

 

I am unable to change the grid resolution in the module editor as the preference option is not available.

In the main schematic editor it is.

How do you change this resolution?


Can't select Mode footprint and mode track in Ubuntu 10.04 using ppa adamwolf

 

Can't select Mode footprint and mode track in Ubuntu 10.04 using ppa adamwolf and pcbnew.
A bit strange as other version of Ubuntu 11.04 seems to work fine.
The icon won't stay highlighted after clicking it,
and menus don't change. So I can't unstack all the components
after importing them using the netlist.

Any thoughts on a work around?

Is there like for example keyboard short cuts?