Re: K-BAR-A December Meeting Minutes
Daniel J Mattingly, N0FQN
Hi Jeff;
??? ??? ??? I have the duplexers working but, they're not fully
tuned. I'd like for you to bring the repeater over and will tune
up the duplexers together. My thumbs are very arthritic and sore
is not the word. Tuning this particular type duplexers you use
your hand and not a wrench. Will walk through the procedures I use
and get them setup. Once that's done we can put the repeater
together and test it on my antenna. After that you can leave it
here for a day or two for testing or take it with you and set it
up somewhere else.
Give me a call 541 884-8778.
73 Dan N0FQN
On 12/18/2021 2:58 AM, Tau_Roar_Media
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Hello all,
? Attached are the K-BAR-A December meeting minutes (Dec
15th, 2021). This includes the elections for the 2022 Board.
Thanx, Jeff Eastburn, KBARA Secretary
KJ7IRV, ~73
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Happy New Year all!
??? This is a reminder that 2022 dues are due. Many of you have already paid and will be receiving an email shortly. Thank You!
??? Dues are $20. That would also cover a household, but there would be only ONE vote per household.
??? So what's in it for you? Well, here are some of the benefits:
?? K-BAR-A often acquires equipment at HALF of what it can be purchased for from outlet stores. This is made available to paid club members with no markup!
?? K-BAR-A is often the first contacted when Amateur Operator estates become available. This gives our membership early access to equipment liquidation.
?? K-BAR-A has many professional and amateur associations that give members easy access to Amateur Radio information and resources.
?? K-BAR-A members own test equipment they are often willing to loan to get others up and running.
?? K-BAR-A members are eager to teach and mentor (Elmer) others to increase our capability and enjoyment of the "Art" of Amateur Radio.
?? K-BAR-A has been an essential participant in many community events including the Snowflake Parade and the Crater Lake Rim Run.
?? K-BAR-A has many members who are also members of CERT and ARES. K-BAR-A stands ready to support the community in times of emergency!
You may pay dues at any regular meeting or mail them to:
K-BAR-A PO Box 8106
Klamath Falls, OR 97602
Thanx, Jeff Eastburn, K-BAR-A Secretary
KJ7IRV, ~73
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10 Meter Tech net tonight at 8 PM local (0400Z)
Hello everyone,
Tonight and most every Monday we will be holding the 10 Meter Tech net at 8 PM local time on 28.375MHz
73,
Jim WO7V
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Reduced price dual band mobile antennas available to club members!
Hello KBARA members!
The club was able to acquire several Diamond Antenna NR770HNMO black 144/440 NMO mount style mobile antennas at a greatly reduced price.
Currently sold by HRO in Portland for $55.95 each plus shipping, the club has them available here locally for just $20 for club members.
If you're interested in getting one, please either reply to this message or contact Erik KD6RRR.
Here's a link to then on HRO's website, followed by some specs for them-
Bands: 2m/70cm
Color: Black
Gain dBi: 3.0/5.5
Watts: 200
Height: 40.2"
Mount: NMO
Element Phasing: 1-1/2 Wave VHF, 2-5/8 Wave UHF
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Re: USFS proposal to charge for repeater sites.
Daniel J Mattingly, N0FQN
Hi Jim;
??? ??? ?? My two cents from the soap box. Trying to explain to
hams that what they have applied for is, indeed, a service is next
to impossible. Many still believe it to just a hobby and nothing
more. If they read the FCC rules completely they would see it is
service. If they dig deeper they will see what the government is
allowed to do under this agreement. When you apply for a ham
license and pass the testing you placing yourself and, any
equipment you procure, in servitude to the government. In
actuality, if the government were to ever choose to do so, they
could confiscate your equipment. This would be under very rare and
extremely severe conditions but, possible. We are a service,
period. Anyone applying for a license to broadcast, in any way,
shape or form, is subject to this. Having worked in broadcast
radio, I talked extensively with several FCC field agents. After
some prodding they admitted that this, in fact, is true. We are
bound to work with FEMA, Homeland Security and other agencies of
the government(s). IMHO this is the political side of the story.
I'm fully in agreement with you that it is an uncomfortable
position to be in but, a necessary evil, so to speak. Looking at
the USFS they are a typical government entity. Wasting money is
one of the prime requirements. Thus, the need for more. FCC is
proposing a fee for our license, anyone? I've never seen a
governmental department use common sense yet, have you?
73 Dan N0FQN
On 12/28/2021 4:15 PM, Jim English,
WO7V wrote:
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Hi?Cynthia,
Welcome to the wild world of ham radio!? I really hate this
political side of the hobby.? However it is more than a hobby
and is really defined as an Amateur Radio SERVICE.? As such I
think the USFS has no business to take a NON-for profit
SERVICE to cleaners to strip their very limited funds when
they are using a mountain top that they ALREADY (as a
collective) own.
So going forward would you please forward me the text of
the response that you made to the USFS.? Mostly I would
possibly like to use it as a template for our club members to
use as a starting point to respond to the USFS.? The Idea is
for each member to personalize it a bit then send it on.? The
last thing the USFS would consider is a pile of emails that
all look alike.? BTW you can send it to my personal email at WO7V@...
Again, welcome to the adventure of ham radio and thank you
very much for your response?to my email blast.??
73,
Jim WO7V
On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 12:31
PM Cynthia W Albro, KK7AZD < KK7AZD@...>
wrote:
I appreciate you posting this, Jim.
The $1,400 fee would be indexed for inflation based on
CPI-U.? I think the estimated cost provided by the Forest
Service should 1) be reduced dramatically and 2) separate
the 3,715 wireless group of use authorizations so that
non-profit organization or individuals FBO of non-profit
organization and charge a lower fee.? The table below comes
from the proposed rules.
I have submitted my comment online today at .
Cyndi | KK7AZD
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Re: USFS proposal to charge for repeater sites.
Hi?Cynthia,
Welcome to the wild world of ham radio!? I really hate this political side of the hobby.? However it is more than a hobby and is really defined as an Amateur Radio SERVICE.? As such I think the USFS has no business to take a NON-for profit SERVICE to cleaners to strip their very limited funds when they are using a mountain top that they ALREADY (as a collective) own.
So going forward would you please forward me the text of the response that you made to the USFS.? Mostly I would possibly like to use it as a template for our club members to use as a starting point to respond to the USFS.? The Idea is for each member to personalize it a bit then send it on.? The last thing the USFS would consider is a pile of emails that all look alike.? BTW you can send it to my personal email at WO7V@...
Again, welcome to the adventure of ham radio and thank you very much for your response?to my email blast.??
73,
Jim WO7V
On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 12:31 PM Cynthia W Albro, KK7AZD < KK7AZD@...> wrote: I appreciate you posting this, Jim. The $1,400 fee would be indexed for inflation based on CPI-U.? I think the estimated cost provided by the Forest Service should 1) be reduced dramatically and 2) separate the 3,715 wireless group of use authorizations so that non-profit organization or individuals FBO of non-profit organization and charge a lower fee.? The table below comes from the proposed rules.  I have submitted my comment online today at . Cyndi | KK7AZD
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10 Meter Tech Net tonight; 28.375 MHz 8:00 PM local (0400Z)
To all you hams out there, particularly?the ones holding a Technician class license, don't forget the Monday night 10 Meter Tech Net tonight on 28.375MHz at 8:00 PM (0400Z).
73,
Jim WO7V
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Re: USFS proposal to charge for repeater sites.
I appreciate you posting this, Jim. The $1,400 fee would be indexed for inflation based on CPI-U.? I think the estimated cost provided by the Forest Service should 1) be reduced dramatically and 2) separate the 3,715 wireless group of use authorizations so that non-profit organization or individuals FBO of non-profit organization and charge a lower fee.? The table below comes from the proposed rules.  I have submitted my comment online today at https://www.regulations.gov/commenton/FS_FRDOC_0001-3605. Cyndi | KK7AZD
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USFS proposal to charge for repeater sites.
Hello Everyone,
It appears that the United States Forest Service (USFS) is?proposing to?implement?a?statutorily required?annual fee for our local repeater sites.? I would recommend that everyone that likes to communicate using one of the local repeaters pen a letter and send it to the USFS.? The address is listed?below (way below).? Now not all of the local repeaters are under the privilege?of the USFS.? However some of them are.? Particularly?the ones in Lake county such as Grizzly peak, Drake peak and Dead Indian Mountain.? These repeaters are very important to us.? All Lake County repeaters are owned by Rob, KE7QP who has been generous enough?to fund the repeaters and the sites.? KBARA has been helping?with maintaining?them as all three repeaters are a great asset to Klamath County.? ?The proposed number I heard from Rob was $1400 per site per year.? Currently Rob said he pays about $100 per site per year which seems reasonable to me.? To me the $1400 number would be too excessive for most repeater associations and clubs to endure.? There are a lot of benefits from the local hams having repeaters.? I will not enumerate them here as I would certainly?miss several.
Here is what I got from the ARRL:??
ARRL to Oppose Forest Service Administrative Fees for AmateurFacilitiesThe US Forest Service is proposing to implement a statutorily requiredannual fee for new and existing communications use authorizations tocover the costs of administering its authorization program. ARRL plansto vigorously oppose the imposition of the proposed fees on AmateurRadio.The Forest Service proposal results from requirements set forth in theAgriculture Improvement Act of 2018 (aka “the Farm Bill”).Specifically, section 8705(c)(3)(b) of the Farm Bill directs the ForestService to issue regulations that require fees for issuingcommunications use authorizations based on the cost to the Agency formaintenance or other activities to be performed by the Agency “as aresult of the location or modification of a communications facility.”The Forest Service is responsible for managing Federal lands andauthorizes the use and occupancy of National Forest System (NFS) landsfor communications facilities that provide communications services foradjacent rural and urban communities. The Agency said in its proposalthat it administers more than 3,700 special use authorizations on NFSlands for infrastructure that supports more than 10,000 wirelesscommunications uses at 1,367 communications sites.According to the Forest Service Notice published in the December 22,2021 issue of the Federal Register, revenues from the proposed fee,“would provide the funds necessary to support a more modernized,efficient, and enhanced communications use program,” and will “coverthe costs of administering the Agency’s communications use program.”Costs, as laid out in section 8705(f)(4) of the Farm Bill, may includeexpenditures for such things as “on-site reviews of communicationssites, developing communications site management plans, hiring andtraining personnel for the communications use program, conductinginternal and external outreach for and national oversight of thecommunications use program, and obtaining or improving access tocommunications sites on NFS lands.”ARRL encourages Amateur Radio licensees to file comments opposing theimposition of the proposed administrative fee on Amateur Radio users.Comments must be received in writing by no later than February 22, 2022.?Comments may be submitted online at the Federal Rulemaking Portal orvia USPS mail to Director, Lands & Realty Management Staff, 201 14thStreet SW, Washington, DC 20250-1124, and must include the identifier“RIN 0596-AD44.”
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10 meter tech net tonight
Hello Everybody,
For those that did not?know it, a person holding a technician class license is allowed to operate on 10m from 28.3MHz to 28.5MHz.? So all you techies get your HF rig on the air!
Lately, the sunspots have been quite favorable.? The solar index today is 122 with 109 sunspots.? Compared to the recent past, this is very good for 10-meter propagation.? This past weekend had great openings most everywhere, even to Europe.
The 10m Tech net will be on the air tonight.? 28.375MHz 8 PM local time (0400Z)? See you there!
73,
Jim WO7V
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K-BAR-A December Meeting Minutes
Hello all,
? Attached are the K-BAR-A December meeting minutes (Dec 15th, 2021). This includes the elections for the 2022 Board.
Thanx, Jeff Eastburn, KBARA Secretary
KJ7IRV, ~73
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Re: 10 meter Tech net tonight at 0400Z (8:00 PM to you non zulu types)
Just know I'll be there in spirit.? Still don't have my rig back yet.? BTW you forgot to mention when 6 and 10 meters are hot so is 11 meters. There are nice folks there on SSB to make contacts with also and a lot of us started there. So dust of those old Xmtr's and hook them up and give a shout out.?
Thanks for the reminder.?
Lisa
* The rules are a good place to hide if you don't have a better idea and the talent to execute it.
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Jim English, WO7V" <jamesdenglish@...> Date: 12/13/2021 4:39 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: [k-bar-a] 10 meter Tech net tonight at 0400Z (8:00 PM to you non zulu types)
Hello Everybody,
For those that did not?know it, a person holding a technician class license is allowed to operate on 10m from 28.3MHz to 28.5MHz.? So all you techies get your HF rig on the air!? Actually most late model HF radios will also operate on 6m as well as 10m on down.? 6m is often referred?to as the "MAGIC BAND". When the sun spot level it at a peak 6m can be extremely fun to operate on.? Oh Oh, when 6m is active 10m is kicking ass!? ?Get your radio out... It's time to have fun!!
Unfortunately we are only on the upswing of improving conditions?on 10m and 6m.? ?That is generally propagation on those bands currently is judged?between substandard to shitty!? Mostly shitty.? However there is a glimmer of hope on the horizon.? That is the sunspots are on the increase which means when we can see some sun spots, propagation?on the upper bands i.e. 10m and 6m will be better.? Currently, like NOW, there are 12 spots.? This past weekend for the ARRL 10m contest there were ZERO, Zilch, Nada, Null, Nothing.? However I did manage to work a few Q's due to Sporadic-E propagation. It could have been better as it would just come and go so when you could hear somebody there was a lot of QSB.
But don't be too discouraged, the 10m Tech net will be on the air tonight.? 28.375MHz 8 PM local time (0400Z)
73,
Jim WO7V
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10 meter Tech net tonight at 0400Z (8:00 PM to you non zulu types)
Hello Everybody,
For those that did not?know it, a person holding a technician class license is allowed to operate on 10m from 28.3MHz to 28.5MHz.? So all you techies get your HF rig on the air!? Actually most late model HF radios will also operate on 6m as well as 10m on down.? 6m is often referred?to as the "MAGIC BAND". When the sun spot level it at a peak 6m can be extremely fun to operate on.? Oh Oh, when 6m is active 10m is kicking ass!? ?Get your radio out... It's time to have fun!!
Unfortunately we are only on the upswing of improving conditions?on 10m and 6m.? ?That is generally propagation on those bands currently is judged?between substandard to shitty!? Mostly shitty.? However there is a glimmer of hope on the horizon.? That is the sunspots are on the increase which means when we can see some sun spots, propagation?on the upper bands i.e. 10m and 6m will be better.? Currently, like NOW, there are 12 spots.? This past weekend for the ARRL 10m contest there were ZERO, Zilch, Nada, Null, Nothing.? However I did manage to work a few Q's due to Sporadic-E propagation. It could have been better as it would just come and go so when you could hear somebody there was a lot of QSB.
But don't be too discouraged, the 10m Tech net will be on the air tonight.? 28.375MHz 8 PM local time (0400Z)
73,
Jim WO7V
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Re: Tech net tonight 28.375MHz 8:00 PM local time
Hey Lisa,? Do you want to borrow?an HF radio it also?got VHF & UHF too??I got an ft817 I am not using. I just got to pull it out of the box it is in, my phone # is 530-859-2530.
Krisy Virgona - N6KV?and?my?Fur?Kids,?Sir Magnus?13 1/2?yrs old,?Spock?7?3/4?yrs?old, Sulu?7?3/4?yrs?old,?Isabella?7?yrs?old,?Graystripe?4 1/2?yrs?old,?Firestar?4 1/2?yrs?old,?& Olivia?4 1/2?yrs?old.
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul?remains?unawakened" - Anatole France "Art is God made visible" - Hank Virgona
"Art Heals the Soul"?- Hank Virgona
“The things you see out of the corners of your eye are the most important” - Hank Virgona
"Accept Divine Grace From?Wherever?It Comes" - Krisy Virgona
Meddle not in the Affairs of?
Dragons for?you're crunchy and?taste good with ketchup!? ? ??Katz?Always? Rulez !!! ("")=^..^=("")
Meow
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:28 PM Lisa Johnson, K7NSP < mslisaj@...> wrote: Hi All, My radio is still in the shop.? I have a great guy working on it and I'll be on the air soon.
Have a great net.
Lisa K7NSP **
The rules are a good place to hide if you don't have a better idea and the talent to execute it.
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Re: Tech net tonight 28.375MHz 8:00 PM local time
Hi All, My radio is still in the shop.? I have a great guy working on it and I'll be on the air soon.
Have a great net.
Lisa K7NSP **
The rules are a good place to hide if you don't have a better idea and the talent to execute it.
On Nov 29, 2021 7:17 PM, "Jim English, WO7V" <jamesdenglish@...> wrote: Hello Everybody.
Please don't miss Monday night Tech net tonight?28.375MHz 8:00 PM local time.
73,
Jim WO7V
- "Innovation and creativity comes from assembling pieces from other stuff in weird ways." - Ben Chestnut, Founder of MailChimp
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Tech net tonight 28.375MHz 8:00 PM local time
Hello Everybody.
Please don't miss Monday night Tech net tonight?28.375MHz 8:00 PM local time.
73,
Jim WO7V
- "Innovation and creativity comes from assembling pieces from other stuff in weird ways." - Ben Chestnut, Founder of MailChimp
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Re: Monday Night Tech Net 8:00pm PST
Hi Jim, Sorry I have been missing the net the last three weeks but my radio is still in the shop. ?When you guys told me it was off frequency I took it to get fix and apparently there were a pair of diodes that were bad too. ?I can't wait to get it back and get back on the air.
Take care my friend.
Lisa ** The rules are a good place to hide if you don't have a better idea and the talent to execute it.
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On Nov 22, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Jim English, WO7V < jamesdenglish@...> wrote: Hello Everybody,
Please don't forget the Monday night Tech net tonight 28.375MHz at 8:00 pm.
73,
Jim WO7V
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Monday Night Tech Net 8:00pm PST
Hello Everybody,
Please don't forget the Monday night Tech net tonight 28.375MHz at 8:00 pm.
73,
Jim WO7V
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Re: Tech net tonight 8:00pm (0400Z)
My radio is on the shop. Can't wait to get it back.
* The rules are a good place to hide if you don't have a better idea and the talent to execute it.
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Jim English, WO7V" <jamesdenglish@...> Date: 11/15/2021 7:53 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: [k-bar-a] Tech net tonight 8:00pm (0400Z)
Don't forget the tech-net tonight at 8:00 pm on 28.375MHz
73,
Jim WO7V
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Tech net tonight 8:00pm (0400Z)
Don't forget the tech-net tonight at 8:00 pm on 28.375MHz
73,
Jim WO7V
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Erik KD6RRR
Kristyanna Virgona - N6KV