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Moderated I try to fix a JAWS problem and Narrator goes berserk

 

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Hi.

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Ever since I lost my Dectalk Express, I’ve used different JAWS voices and voice rates, depending on whether I’m in the JAWS cursor, PC cursor, etc., to address my different reading needs. JAWS apparently doesn’t like dispensing favors to more than one voice and voice rate at a time, and so eventually I need to unload and reload it. Sometimes I can’t get it speaking again, so I bring up Narrator. Here’s the problem I hope someone here can help with.

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In these situations, Narrator doesn’t act normally. For example, I’ll be on the desktop and I’ll press alt-F4 to initiate a PC restart. Narrator announces it doesn’t recognize the keystroke. I need to do a series of workarounds to get the restart process begun.

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The worst problem is that if I land on my Outlook folder in these circumstances, Narrator starts reading each message over and over. Nothing I do can stop it except pushing the Physical shutdown button on the PC.

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I imagine calling Vispero and being told to call Microsoft, then calling Microsoft and being told to call Vispero. So before setting off on that merry-go-round, I’m hoping someone here has a suggestion or two.

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Thanks.


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I still use POP3. Let’s say I go out of town for a week. I access my E-mails on my iPhone. I use POP3 On both my iPhone and my PC. I use Microsoft 365. When accessing E-mail on my phone, I am set up to leave a copy on the server. Sometimes, I encounter messages with which I need to follow up on my PC and I don’t want to keep them on my iPhone wile I am away. I am set up to delete messages from the server after I pull them up on my PC. If I still want to save them? it is easy enough to put them in folders I have created.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Immigrant via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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I use POP3 for as long as it is available. I see no problem with it. It is good enough for me, although depending on mail usage, it may not be for everyone.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Re: "nobody should be using POP3 anymore"

Why?

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 05:05:11 PM EDT, Richard Turner via groups.io <richardr_turner@...> wrote:

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Right, but it is not the Microsoft 365 subscription.

That may be the difference.

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: jfw-users@groupsio <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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I'm using the version of Outlook 2016 that comes with Office 2016. The Outlook I use has Word, Excel and PowerPoint bundled in it. So it's one big package. That's the best way I know how to describe it.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 04:37:41 PM EDT, Richard Turner via groups.io <richardr_turner@...> wrote:

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I use Outlook Classic in Microsoft 365.

I do not have a leave messages on the server option under Advanced in File Options.

I wonder Jen, if you are using a stand-alone version of Outlook 2016 Classic and not within Microsoft 365?

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Jen:

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My option says permanently delete, and I think it deletes from both Outlook and G-mail.

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At least I think that’s the case, since after I deleted my test e-mail in Outlook, it was no longer on the g-mail website either.

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Again, if I’m wrong, I hope someone will correct me, but this is my experience at least at this point.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Tom, sorry I misunderstood you! I have that option, too. That just tells Outlook to delete the items in "deleted item" folder, not the server.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 03:55:43 PM EDT, Tom Behler via groups.io <tombehler@...> wrote:

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Jen:

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In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

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I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

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I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

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I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

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The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

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When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

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Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

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Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

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I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

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It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


Moderated Re: Strange JAWS 2025 Behavior in Rich Edit Spaces

 

Okay guys, I just did a test where I pasted something from Chrome into a text file. Then, I pasted that text file into the "message" rich edit space on one of my groups. The problem of JAWS not reading the whole word at the bottom was gone. So maybe Chrome isn't pasting plain text? I have virtual cursor options set to "select and copy from virtual cursor."


Moderated Re: How to make JAWS Key + F3 do repeat last JAWS Find rather than bringing up the Virtual HTML Viewer?

 

Well, you've gotta love FS sometimes.? I've installed the May Update of JAWS 2025, and this is in the JAWS Keystrokes document:
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Web Browsing Keystrokes
General
Virtual HTML Features? ? ? INSERT+F3?
JAWS Find Next and Previous? ? ? F3 and SHIFT+F3?
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but later
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Informational
JAWS Find? ? ? CTRL+INSERT+F? ? ? ?CAPS LOCK+CTRL+F?
JAWS Find Next? ? ?INSERT+F3? ? ? ?CAPS LOCK+F3?
JAWS Find Previous? ? INSERT+SHIFT+F3? ? ? CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+F3?
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Nothing like saying that the same keystroke, INSERT+F3, does different things.? So far, I've only had it bring up virtual HTML features, which it did not do in times past.


Moderated Re: copying scrips from one version to the next

 

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Yo Bro,
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Go into your Jaws 2024 ENU folder and copy them from there, then paste them into the Jaws 2025 ENU folder.

Take care.? Mike.? Sent from my iBarstool.? Go Dodgers!

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Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 2:49 PM
Subject: [JFW-Users] copying scrips from one version to the next

Hi,

I have discord scripts for jaws. How can I copy them from jfw 24 to jfw 25?

thanks

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Cordially,

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Tom,

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A suggestion, locate an email in your Important folder that you don’t really need to keep.? See if you can find the same email in your Sent Items folder and/or All folder.? Then, delete it from your Important folder and see if it is still in your other folders.

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Gil

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Sieghard:

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Sorry, you are correct.

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I should have mentioned that I’m using the Imap interface.

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I think this is why when I delete something from Outlook, it also gets deleted from the g-mail server.

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Now, my quandry is figuring out how to clean up some of my very large g-mail folders.

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I originally thought that I could just clear out my important e-mails folder, but I think if I do that, those e-mails will be gone from my sent folder, and my all mail folder as well.

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So, I’m trying to figure out the best way to proceed here without risking loosing any e-mails I wish to hang onto.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 5:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Tom, first of all I did not see whether you said anywhere if you set up your Gmail account in Outlook using IMAP or if you are still using the old POP3 protocol which nobody should really use any more. Yes, I know I am probably going to get some nasty replies from some fossils on the list who think POP3 is similar to the second coming, but if you use your Gmail account on your computer and possible on your iPhone, then POP3 has no place in this world any more.

In fact, it is POP3 where you had the option to “delete from server”, the option you mention in Outlook Options > Advanced simply means that you have to confirm when you delete a message you already deleted, i.e. you first delete the message from your Inbox, then you now go to your Deleted items folder and you delete it from there. Personally I have that box unchecked because once I delete messages from my Deleted Items folder, I am pretty sure I want them gone and I don’t have to be prompted yet again whether I want to do this.

Now, as far as the protocol goes, if you have set up your Gmail account using IMAP, then any change you make in Outlook will be reflected on your Gmail account. Basically, the accounts sync which is why IMAP or, if you are using Outlook.com, Exchange is a much better protocol for people who access their email on more than 1 device. If you delete a message in Outlook on the computer and you then go to your iPhone (just as an example), that message will also be gone. If you reply to an email on your iPhone and then go to your computer, this message will shows as “replied” and the message you sent will be in your sent items folder.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 12:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Jen:

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In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

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I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

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I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

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I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

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The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

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When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

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Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

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Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

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I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

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It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


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I use POP3 for as long as it is available. I see no problem with it. It is good enough for me, although depending on mail usage, it may not be for everyone.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Re: "nobody should be using POP3 anymore"

Why?

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 05:05:11 PM EDT, Richard Turner via groups.io <richardr_turner@...> wrote:

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Right, but it is not the Microsoft 365 subscription.

That may be the difference.

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: jfw-users@groupsio <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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I'm using the version of Outlook 2016 that comes with Office 2016. The Outlook I use has Word, Excel and PowerPoint bundled in it. So it's one big package. That's the best way I know how to describe it.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 04:37:41 PM EDT, Richard Turner via groups.io <richardr_turner@...> wrote:

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I use Outlook Classic in Microsoft 365.

I do not have a leave messages on the server option under Advanced in File Options.

I wonder Jen, if you are using a stand-alone version of Outlook 2016 Classic and not within Microsoft 365?

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Jen:

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My option says permanently delete, and I think it deletes from both Outlook and G-mail.

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At least I think that’s the case, since after I deleted my test e-mail in Outlook, it was no longer on the g-mail website either.

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Again, if I’m wrong, I hope someone will correct me, but this is my experience at least at this point.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Tom, sorry I misunderstood you! I have that option, too. That just tells Outlook to delete the items in "deleted item" folder, not the server.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 03:55:43 PM EDT, Tom Behler via groups.io <tombehler@...> wrote:

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Jen:

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In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

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I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

?

I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

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I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

?

The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

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When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

?

Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

?

Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

?

I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

?

It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


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When in a message, I just hit alt and arrow down to the save as option, and the e-mail will be saved with a .msg extension.

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Once there, I can navigate to the particular folder I want the e-mail to be saved in.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of patti via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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How do you save email to put in a folder in your document’s?

Thanks Patti

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 9:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Richard:

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I actually do save extremely important e-mails in separate OneDrive folders, and on an external hard drive, and those saved messages ?have the .msg extension.

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It’s those other thousands of messages with varying levels of importance that I’m not sure how to handle.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 10:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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If Outlook Classic is configured to delete from the server, then deleting them in Outlook should take care of it.

I've been in your shoes with thousands of emails that I let stack up, but since I use an Outlook.com account, it didn't become a storage issue, so much as a management issue.

I ended up deleting tons one by one over a long period of time and now try to keep it manageable and created a few folders where I want to keep things so I move emails into them as needed and delete the rest.

I suppose you also could save messages as .msg (I think that is the Outlook extension by default) and keep them on an external drive so you could open them later in Outlook?

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That might be worth asking Microsoft about since that is really an Outlook question and not a specific gmail question.

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HTH,

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Richard:

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I have Outlook classic configured to delete mail from the server once it is no longer needed, so I’m wondering if I can’t just do things through Outlook itself?

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Will do more inquiring into the difference between all mail and important mail in g-mail, and would appreciate the thoughts of others as well.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 9:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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My initial thought is that you have to do this from the gmail web site.

Or at least, check your gmail settings so that if you delete something on your computer, it deletes on the server.

Not knowing all the details of the account type etc., it is hard to be more confident, but even then, with gmail, I'm not that knowledgeable.? But I understand the concept of how it often does things.

I suspect the difference between important mail and all mail, is that gmail has deemed certain emails as important; whether you have or not.

That might be a good AI question of ChatGPT, Copilot, or Peplexity, etc.

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Something like, what is the difference in Gmail between imprtant messages and all messages?

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Good luck,

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:35 AM
To: 'Jfw users list' <[email protected]>
Subject: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Re-sending due to no initial response.

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Tom Behler

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Hello, everyone.

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I don’t know if this will be considered off topic for this list, but I thought I’d try, since there are so many knowledgeable people out there.

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If this is considered off topic, please reply to me personally at:

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tombehler@...

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I manage my personal g-mail account through Outlook Classic as part of my Microsoft 365 subscription.

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I recently Got a notification from Google that my g-mail account space is 50% full.

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I have three folders that literally contain thousands of messages:

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My sent folder;? my all mail folder;? and a folder called important mail.

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I’d like to clear out these folders to some degree, but am not quite sure how to go about it efficiently.

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I would be happy to ?save sent e-mails from the last year or two.

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I also wouldn’t mind paring my all mail and important mail folders back significantly, but am not sure what the difference is between all mail and important mail.

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I do have Outlook Classic set to automatically delete e-mails from the server whenever I invoke the delete function and indicate that I’m sure of my deletion step.

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Any help on this would be appreciated.

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Thank you!

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Tom Behler

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Sieghard:

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Sorry, you are correct.

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I should have mentioned that I’m using the Imap interface.

?

I think this is why when I delete something from Outlook, it also gets deleted from the g-mail server.

?

Now, my quandry is figuring out how to clean up some of my very large g-mail folders.

?

I originally thought that I could just clear out my important e-mails folder, but I think if I do that, those e-mails will be gone from my sent folder, and my all mail folder as well.

?

So, I’m trying to figure out the best way to proceed here without risking loosing any e-mails I wish to hang onto.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 5:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Tom, first of all I did not see whether you said anywhere if you set up your Gmail account in Outlook using IMAP or if you are still using the old POP3 protocol which nobody should really use any more. Yes, I know I am probably going to get some nasty replies from some fossils on the list who think POP3 is similar to the second coming, but if you use your Gmail account on your computer and possible on your iPhone, then POP3 has no place in this world any more.

In fact, it is POP3 where you had the option to “delete from server”, the option you mention in Outlook Options > Advanced simply means that you have to confirm when you delete a message you already deleted, i.e. you first delete the message from your Inbox, then you now go to your Deleted items folder and you delete it from there. Personally I have that box unchecked because once I delete messages from my Deleted Items folder, I am pretty sure I want them gone and I don’t have to be prompted yet again whether I want to do this.

Now, as far as the protocol goes, if you have set up your Gmail account using IMAP, then any change you make in Outlook will be reflected on your Gmail account. Basically, the accounts sync which is why IMAP or, if you are using Outlook.com, Exchange is a much better protocol for people who access their email on more than 1 device. If you delete a message in Outlook on the computer and you then go to your iPhone (just as an example), that message will also be gone. If you reply to an email on your iPhone and then go to your computer, this message will shows as “replied” and the message you sent will be in your sent items folder.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 12:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Jen:

?

In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

?

I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

?

I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

?

I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

?

The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

?

When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

?

Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

?

Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

?

I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

?

It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

?

Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 05:05:11 PM EDT, Richard Turner via groups.io <richardr_turner@...> wrote:


Right, but it is not the Microsoft 365 subscription.

That may be the difference.

?

?

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

?

My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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I'm using the version of Outlook 2016 that comes with Office 2016. The Outlook I use has Word, Excel and PowerPoint bundled in it. So it's one big package. That's the best way I know how to describe it.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 04:37:41 PM EDT, Richard Turner via groups.io <richardr_turner@...> wrote:

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I use Outlook Classic in Microsoft 365.

I do not have a leave messages on the server option under Advanced in File Options.

I wonder Jen, if you are using a stand-alone version of Outlook 2016 Classic and not within Microsoft 365?

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Jen:

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My option says permanently delete, and I think it deletes from both Outlook and G-mail.

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At least I think that’s the case, since after I deleted my test e-mail in Outlook, it was no longer on the g-mail website either.

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Again, if I’m wrong, I hope someone will correct me, but this is my experience at least at this point.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Tom, sorry I misunderstood you! I have that option, too. That just tells Outlook to delete the items in "deleted item" folder, not the server.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 03:55:43 PM EDT, Tom Behler via groups.io <tombehler@...> wrote:

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Jen:

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In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

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I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

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I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

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I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

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The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

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When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

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Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

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Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

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I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

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It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


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I haven’t noticed this in deleting emails, but just lately JAWS now reads the name of a Word file when I close it, something new.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: 17-May-25 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JFW-Users] Weird Issue with Chrome and JAWS

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Is anyone else experiencing this?

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So when you're writing something in Chrome and delete the word under the cursor. JAWS reads the word you just deleted, instead of the next word under the cursor. This happens with the virtual cursor both on and off, and in and out of default mode. Is this a Chrome update issue or a JAWS issue?


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I have discord scripts for jaws. How can I copy them from jfw 24 to jfw 25?

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I copy the messages from my Outlook if I want to transfer them, for example to a different computer, and I paste those messages in a folder on my backup external drive. The messages will become files with .msg extension. When I install Outlook on a different computer, I paste those .msg files into the relevant folders in Outlook, and they become e-mail messages again. When I say copy messages, I don't just copy the contents from inside the message, I copy them from outside.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of patti via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 5:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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How do you save email to put in a folder in your document’s?

Thanks Patti

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 9:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Richard:

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I actually do save extremely important e-mails in separate OneDrive folders, and on an external hard drive, and those saved messages ?have the msg extension.

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It’s those other thousands of messages with varying levels of importance that I’m not sure how to handle.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 10:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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If Outlook Classic is configured to delete from the server, then deleting them in Outlook should take care of it.

I've been in your shoes with thousands of emails that I let stack up, but since I use an Outlook.com account, it didn't become a storage issue, so much as a management issue.

I ended up deleting tons one by one over a long period of time and now try to keep it manageable and created a few folders where I want to keep things so I move emails into them as needed and delete the rest.

I suppose you also could save messages as .msg (I think that is the Outlook extension by default) and keep them on an external drive so you could open them later in Outlook?

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That might be worth asking Microsoft about since that is really an Outlook question and not a specific gmail question.

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HTH,

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Richard:

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I have Outlook classic configured to delete mail from the server once it is no longer needed, so I’m wondering if I can’t just do things through Outlook itself?

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Will do more inquiring into the difference between all mail and important mail in g-mail, and would appreciate the thoughts of others as well.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 9:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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My initial thought is that you have to do this from the gmail web site.

Or at least, check your gmail settings so that if you delete something on your computer, it deletes on the server.

Not knowing all the details of the account type etc., it is hard to be more confident, but even then, with gmail, I'm not that knowledgeable.? But I understand the concept of how it often does things.

I suspect the difference between important mail and all mail, is that gmail has deemed certain emails as important; whether you have or not.

That might be a good AI question of ChatGPT, Copilot, or Peplexity, etc.

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Something like, what is the difference in Gmail between imprtant messages and all messages?

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Good luck,

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:35 AM
To: 'Jfw users list' <[email protected]>
Subject: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Re-sending due to no initial response.

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Tom Behler

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Hello, everyone.

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I don’t know if this will be considered off topic for this list, but I thought I’d try, since there are so many knowledgeable people out there.

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If this is considered off topic, please reply to me personally at:

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tombehler@...

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I manage my personal g-mail account through Outlook Classic as part of my Microsoft 365 subscription.

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I recently Got a notification from Google that my g-mail account space is 50% full.

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I have three folders that literally contain thousands of messages:

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My sent folder;? my all mail folder;? and a folder called important mail.

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I’d like to clear out these folders to some degree, but am not quite sure how to go about it efficiently.

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I would be happy to ?save sent e-mails from the last year or two.

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I also wouldn’t mind paring my all mail and important mail folders back significantly, but am not sure what the difference is between all mail and important mail.

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I do have Outlook Classic set to automatically delete e-mails from the server whenever I invoke the delete function and indicate that I’m sure of my deletion step.

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Any help on this would be appreciated.

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Thank you!

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Tom Behler

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Thanks for this, Adrian.? I’ll try that.? Just my idle curiosity, I guess, wondering about the meta-processes of cyber mysteries!!

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via groups.io
Sent: 17-May-25 1:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Copying TCM movie schedule

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Whatever the cause of the problem, you should be able to avoid it by not using the standard control-v paste command, but instead the following sequence:

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Alt, then h, then v, then t.

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This will paste the material as unformatted text, which is fine when you don’t need to keep the original formatting.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Walls via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JFW-Users] Copying TCM movie schedule

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Occasionally I like to catch a movie on the TCM movie network.? I go to the tcm.com website and copy the schedule for coming weeks into a Word file.? When I open that file later, it takes time but it opens and JAWS reads what I’ve typed there.? However, if another Word file is open when I try to open the TCM Word document, it causes an error and I can’t open the TCM file.

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This is hardly an important issue.? I’m just curious.? Would the issue be that what I copy from the TCM website has graphics and that is somehow creating the problem?? Any thoughts on this?

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How do you save email to put in a folder in your document’s?

Thanks Patti

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 9:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Richard:

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I actually do save extremely important e-mails in separate OneDrive folders, and on an external hard drive, and those saved messages ?have the .msg extension.

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It’s those other thousands of messages with varying levels of importance that I’m not sure how to handle.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 10:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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If Outlook Classic is configured to delete from the server, then deleting them in Outlook should take care of it.

I've been in your shoes with thousands of emails that I let stack up, but since I use an Outlook.com account, it didn't become a storage issue, so much as a management issue.

I ended up deleting tons one by one over a long period of time and now try to keep it manageable and created a few folders where I want to keep things so I move emails into them as needed and delete the rest.

I suppose you also could save messages as .msg (I think that is the Outlook extension by default) and keep them on an external drive so you could open them later in Outlook?

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That might be worth asking Microsoft about since that is really an Outlook question and not a specific gmail question.

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HTH,

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Richard:

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I have Outlook classic configured to delete mail from the server once it is no longer needed, so I’m wondering if I can’t just do things through Outlook itself?

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Will do more inquiring into the difference between all mail and important mail in g-mail, and would appreciate the thoughts of others as well.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 9:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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My initial thought is that you have to do this from the gmail web site.

Or at least, check your gmail settings so that if you delete something on your computer, it deletes on the server.

Not knowing all the details of the account type etc., it is hard to be more confident, but even then, with gmail, I'm not that knowledgeable.? But I understand the concept of how it often does things.

I suspect the difference between important mail and all mail, is that gmail has deemed certain emails as important; whether you have or not.

That might be a good AI question of ChatGPT, Copilot, or Peplexity, etc.

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Something like, what is the difference in Gmail between imprtant messages and all messages?

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Good luck,

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 6:35 AM
To: 'Jfw users list' <[email protected]>
Subject: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Re-sending due to no initial response.

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Tom Behler

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Hello, everyone.

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I don’t know if this will be considered off topic for this list, but I thought I’d try, since there are so many knowledgeable people out there.

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If this is considered off topic, please reply to me personally at:

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tombehler@...

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I manage my personal g-mail account through Outlook Classic as part of my Microsoft 365 subscription.

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I recently Got a notification from Google that my g-mail account space is 50% full.

?

I have three folders that literally contain thousands of messages:

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My sent folder;? my all mail folder;? and a folder called important mail.

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I’d like to clear out these folders to some degree, but am not quite sure how to go about it efficiently.

?

I would be happy to ?save sent e-mails from the last year or two.

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I also wouldn’t mind paring my all mail and important mail folders back significantly, but am not sure what the difference is between all mail and important mail.

?

I do have Outlook Classic set to automatically delete e-mails from the server whenever I invoke the delete function and indicate that I’m sure of my deletion step.

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Any help on this would be appreciated.

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Thank you!

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Tom Behler

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This has nothing to do with Outlook options, the “leave a copy on the server” checkbox is something you have in your mail account setup and then only if you use POP3 and nobody should be using POP3 any more.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Jen:

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I don’t find “leave copy of message on server” in advanced options in my version of Outlook Classic under Microsoft 365.

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I think that since I have checked ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts, It removes them from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Tom, do you have "leave copy of messages on server" checked? If yes, uncheck that box, and you won't have to delete messages twice! "leave copy of messages on server" is under "advanced" in the option ribbon.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 03:55:43 PM EDT, Tom Behler via groups.io <tombehler@...> wrote:

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Jen:

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In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

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I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

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I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

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I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

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The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

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When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

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Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

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Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

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I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

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It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

?

Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


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That setting is only present if you use POP3 as your email protocol.

Just set your account up using IMAP and you just don’t have to worry about that sort of stuff any more.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Tom, do you have "leave copy of messages on server" checked? If yes, uncheck that box, and you won't have to delete messages twice! "leave copy of messages on server" is under "advanced" in the option ribbon.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 03:55:43 PM EDT, Tom Behler via groups.io <tombehler@...> wrote:

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Jen:

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In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

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I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

?

I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

?

I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

?

The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

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When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

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Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

?

Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

?

I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

?

It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

?

Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


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Tom, first of all I did not see whether you said anywhere if you set up your Gmail account in Outlook using IMAP or if you are still using the old POP3 protocol which nobody should really use any more. Yes, I know I am probably going to get some nasty replies from some fossils on the list who think POP3 is similar to the second coming, but if you use your Gmail account on your computer and possible on your iPhone, then POP3 has no place in this world any more.

In fact, it is POP3 where you had the option to “delete from server”, the option you mention in Outlook Options > Advanced simply means that you have to confirm when you delete a message you already deleted, i.e. you first delete the message from your Inbox, then you now go to your Deleted items folder and you delete it from there. Personally I have that box unchecked because once I delete messages from my Deleted Items folder, I am pretty sure I want them gone and I don’t have to be prompted yet again whether I want to do this.

Now, as far as the protocol goes, if you have set up your Gmail account using IMAP, then any change you make in Outlook will be reflected on your Gmail account. Basically, the accounts sync which is why IMAP or, if you are using Outlook.com, Exchange is a much better protocol for people who access their email on more than 1 device. If you delete a message in Outlook on the computer and you then go to your iPhone (just as an example), that message will also be gone. If you reply to an email on your iPhone and then go to your computer, this message will shows as “replied” and the message you sent will be in your sent items folder.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 12:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Jen:

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In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

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I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

?

I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

?

I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

?

The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

?

When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

?

Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

?

Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

?

I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

?

It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

?

Tom Behler

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


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Right, but it is not the Microsoft 365 subscription.

That may be the difference.

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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I'm using the version of Outlook 2016 that comes with Office 2016. The Outlook I use has Word, Excel and PowerPoint bundled in it. So it's one big package. That's the best way I know how to describe it.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 04:37:41 PM EDT, Richard Turner via groups.io <richardr_turner@...> wrote:

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I use Outlook Classic in Microsoft 365.

I do not have a leave messages on the server option under Advanced in File Options.

I wonder Jen, if you are using a stand-alone version of Outlook 2016 Classic and not within Microsoft 365?

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Richard, USA

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis

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My web site:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Behler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Jen:

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My option says permanently delete, and I think it deletes from both Outlook and G-mail.

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At least I think that’s the case, since after I deleted my test e-mail in Outlook, it was no longer on the g-mail website either.

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Again, if I’m wrong, I hope someone will correct me, but this is my experience at least at this point.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Tom, sorry I misunderstood you! I have that option, too. That just tells Outlook to delete the items in "deleted item" folder, not the server.

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On Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 03:55:43 PM EDT, Tom Behler via groups.io <tombehler@...> wrote:

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Jen:

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In Outlook Classic, under advanced options, I have an option that says ask before permanently deleting items in the deleted folder for all accounts.

?

I have this option checked, so always get asked that question before closing the program.

?

I just did a test by sending myself a test e-mail.

?

I checked on the g-mail website, and the test e-mail was indeed there.

?

The message? also came through to Outlook Classic, at which time I deleted it.

?

When I went back onto the G-mail website, the message was gone.

?

Since the message was no longer found in Outlook and on the g-mail website, I assume it has been deleted from both the Outlook and g-mail servers.

?

Hopefully, I’m correct about this.

?

I’d welcome confirmation from others if possible.

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It should save me having to delete unwanted e-mails twice—both from Outlook Classic, and from G-mail.

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Tom Behler

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] Re-sending: Cleaning Out E-mail Folders

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Hi Tom

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I'm confused. I use classic Outlook 2016, and I don't see a checkbox to delete messages from the server. There's a "leave a copy of messages on the server" checkbox under "advanced" though. I think you need to delete the messages you want to delete from the Gmail server first, then delete the same messages from Outlook. Then uncheck "leave copy of messages on server"


Moderated Re: jaws scripts for discord

 

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May I email you off list to continue the discussion and or if I have further questions?

Based on my question I don’t think lots here use discord lol.

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Cordially,

Kimsan Song

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Capelle, Michael C. via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 1:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] jaws scripts for discord

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I love it! I use the app itself. I find that the scripts work better with the actual app and not the website.



On May 17, 2025, at 1:20?AM, Kimsan via groups.io <kimsan_song@...> wrote:

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Thank you Michael!

Do you use discord, whether if it’s the app or the browser, if yes, how’s your experience?

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Cordially,

KiThank you Michaelmsan Song

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Capelle, Michael C. via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2025 10:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JFW-Users] jaws scripts for discord

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Yes, u can.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2025 12:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JFW-Users] jaws scripts for discord

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Hi,

I have the discord scripts for jfw 24, can I use the same scripts for 25?

I looked at dug lees scripts webpage but didn’t see nothing about 25.

Thank you

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Kimsan Song

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