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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly? - The solution
Today I was stumbling over the fact that in both units the empty holes exactly were in the same positions. So I started to count: Actually there were 25 rods! Not a single one was missing. I also managed to open the units. Aftes I've found those four spring loaded retainers, I pried open the lid that contains the contacts and found that both holes must have been deliberately left empty at factory. I've just been misled and draw the wrong conclusion.
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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
开云体育Does the x77 have a headphone jack? If so is the sound in the
headphones? On 7/8/2022 12:50 PM, Gail Wrighter via
groups.io wrote:
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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
I am in Binghamton, NY. I have had mine since 1968. It has only been in 2 houses, my parents and mine. Decided to resurrect my musical career whcih consists of playing in my home only. It's been many years, probably 12/15 since I have played the X77. I also have a Lowery and 2 small versions( Yamahas). Have cleaned most of the contacts but still have a very annoys high pitch coming from the Leslie speaker(X77L) Can't come up with a fix to rid the speaker of the noise. It increase in loudness as the swell pedal is increased. I also have an external AutoVari 64 rhythm box which is hooked up to the reverb unit and works off the reverb tab. Have totally unplugged the Autovari and still have the high pitch. Any ideas???? Then, I have the 16' pedal not working, well working at a very low volume. Haven't tackled that yet. So much to do and so little knowledge to do it.. Hoping for a stumbled upon solution after reading many forums, so far to no avail.? Keep in touch. Gail... yes that is my name. I'm 6'3" 240 lbs, retired Physical Education teacher/Coach. Taught and coached for 34 yrs.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
Hello Gail I have an X77 as well.? ?It is a very rare beast...in our area. Where are you located?? I am in Vancouver. Wayne
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 06:13:28 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
Haven't dove into my X77 yet so don't know what I'll find. The high pitch noise coming out of my? X77L Leslie has me climbing up a wall right now.
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 12:49:47 PM EDT, Uwe Menrath <uwe.menrath@...> wrote:
Hi, so I've got two identical pedal contact assemblies from a Concorde and a Monarch. Both are missing two of these triangular, white pushrods that protrude out of the upper side and act as the links between the pedal actuators and the contacts inside the steel box. Presently, both contact assemblies have 23 of those rods (I hope you see what I mean) instead of 25. At the first step I intend to open both assemblies and swap two rods from one to the other one. Next would be cloning those rods by 3D printing or the like. Perhaps they might have fallen into the boxes? Anyway, I see no possibility to get access to the inside of these steel boxes. There are no screws or the like. May someone wiser than me help me, please? Best regards! |
Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
Hello Gail I have an X77 as well.? ?It is a very rare beast...in our area. Where are you located?? I am in Vancouver. Wayne
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 06:13:28 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
Haven't dove into my X77 yet so don't know what I'll find. The high pitch noise coming out of my? X77L Leslie has me climbing up a wall right now.
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 12:49:47 PM EDT, Uwe Menrath <uwe.menrath@...> wrote:
Hi, so I've got two identical pedal contact assemblies from a Concorde and a Monarch. Both are missing two of these triangular, white pushrods that protrude out of the upper side and act as the links between the pedal actuators and the contacts inside the steel box. Presently, both contact assemblies have 23 of those rods (I hope you see what I mean) instead of 25. At the first step I intend to open both assemblies and swap two rods from one to the other one. Next would be cloning those rods by 3D printing or the like. Perhaps they might have fallen into the boxes? Anyway, I see no possibility to get access to the inside of these steel boxes. There are no screws or the like. May someone wiser than me help me, please? Best regards! |
Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
Haven't dove into my X77 yet so don't know what I'll find. The high pitch noise coming out of my? X77L Leslie has me climbing up a wall right now.
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 12:49:47 PM EDT, Uwe Menrath <uwe.menrath@...> wrote:
Hi, so I've got two identical pedal contact assemblies from a Concorde and a Monarch. Both are missing two of these triangular, white pushrods that protrude out of the upper side and act as the links between the pedal actuators and the contacts inside the steel box. Presently, both contact assemblies have 23 of those rods (I hope you see what I mean) instead of 25. At the first step I intend to open both assemblies and swap two rods from one to the other one. Next would be cloning those rods by 3D printing or the like. Perhaps they might have fallen into the boxes? Anyway, I see no possibility to get access to the inside of these steel boxes. There are no screws or the like. May someone wiser than me help me, please? Best regards! |
How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
Hi,
so I've got two identical pedal contact assemblies from a Concorde and a Monarch. Both are missing two of these triangular, white pushrods that protrude out of the upper side and act as the links between the pedal actuators and the contacts inside the steel box. Presently, both contact assemblies have 23 of those rods (I hope you see what I mean) instead of 25. At the first step I intend to open both assemblies and swap two rods from one to the other one. Next would be cloning those rods by 3D printing or the like. Perhaps they might have fallen into the boxes? Anyway, I see no possibility to get access to the inside of these steel boxes. There are no screws or the like. May someone wiser than me help me, please? Best regards! |
FW: [hammondzone] Leslie odd ball slow motor
开云体育? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: jean duplanty via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:41 AM To: Wayne Tarling via groups.io; [email protected] Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Leslie odd ball slow motor ? Thanks Wayne!? The oiling port does make it easier to lubricate the felt but I prefer to see and ensure those felts get oiled evenly and sufficiently without over-oiling. It’s a pain to have to taking things apart to lubricate but then that process enables parts inspection too. I wonder if Don Leslie thought his Leslies would last 50+ years….. ? Cheers, JD ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: Wayne Tarling via groups.io ? For fear of stepping on any "Hammond Experts" ....there is nothing extraordinary about this application.? It's a motor with oilite bearings.? Just happens to be in a Leslie in this case. ? An annual oiling of literally any kind of lube oil (I'm being crass) is better than nothing, and usually not necessary.? ?An oiling every couple or three years may in fact be fine ....but the regimen should be based on the amount of "on time" the organ sees annually. ? Also, if felt has been designed into this application, it helps to extend the oiling rqmnts and is sometimes used to provide a little bit of sealing from contaminants getting into the bearing.? I don't want to speculate what the design engineers intent was back then. ? When you reassemble try to determine if there is any movement (play) between shaft and bearing.? If its tight ...3in1 will do fine .....without having you search for a small quantity of lubrication somewhere.? ?If there is "wiggle-room" between shaft and bearing, then you need a more viscous oil.? What is needed will depend on how much clearance there is ....which can only be determined by measuring.? ? ?If you haven't heard any noise coming from this motor, it is very probably "fine".? ? This is a vertical application as opposed to a horizontal.? There should be even wear throughout all the bearings. ? Don't be surprised if Hammond made this motor ...originally. ? ? ? ? On Tuesday, June 14, 2022, 07:38:53 AM PDT, Don Resor <organlists1@...> wrote: ? ? Is there felt as part of the motor’s bushings where it is set into the casting? ?If so you can add oil to the felt reservoir and reassemble. ? ?After cleaning light oil of the motor shafts will aid in reassembly. ?Be sure to use SAE 20. ? Hammond generator oil is kind of light for this purpose. ? Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone ?
Hi everyone! ??? This week I thought I’d take out the Leslie motor out of my 122 to give them a good cleaning and thorough oiling. Upon looking at the upper stack, I found an interesting slow motor – the bearing had no port hole for oiling like the original motors. I am attaching a few pics in hope that someone in the group can enlighten me and others who may have one of these odd ball motors in their Leslie cabinet. I would be interested to know what company made these and at what time in the Leslie company history. ? Cheers, Jean ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? ? ![]()
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Re: Leslie odd ball slow motor
开云体育As far as I know Hammond never “manufactured” their own motors.? These usually came from an outside vendor. General Industries manufactured three type of motors that I know of.? The two Leslie Motors and the Hammond synchronous run motor. ? At some point, now possibly 40 years ago when General Industries stopped manufacturing these types of motors Don Leslie designed the pulsed motor system. ? Concerning the type of oil used.? Generally non-detergent oil is preferred, as it doesn’t have the added chemicals not needed in electric motor applications. ? 3-in-1 Electric Motor oil is readily available and is SAE 20. ? For motors in that the bearings are especially sloppy you can try non-detergent SAE 30.? IBM’s #10 lubricant is SAE 30 non-detergent oil.? A little more difficult to find than SAE 20.? I ordered a quart of SAE30 non-detergent through Grainger. ? ? Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://hammondorganservice.com ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Wayne Tarling via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 8:18 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Jean Duplantie <hery_jd@...> Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Leslie odd ball slow motor ? For fear of stepping on any "Hammond Experts" ....there is nothing extraordinary about this application.? It's a motor with oilite bearings.? Just happens to be in a Leslie in this case. ? An annual oiling of literally any kind of lube oil (I'm being crass) is better than nothing, and usually not necessary.? ?An oiling every couple or three years may in fact be fine ....but the regimen should be based on the amount of "on time" the organ sees annually. ? Also, if felt has been designed into this application, it helps to extend the oiling rqmnts and is sometimes used to provide a little bit of sealing from contaminants getting into the bearing.? I don't want to speculate what the design engineers intent was back then. ? When you reassemble try to determine if there is any movement (play) between shaft and bearing.? If its tight ...3in1 will do fine .....without having you search for a small quantity of lubrication somewhere.? ?If there is "wiggle-room" between shaft and bearing, then you need a more viscous oil.? What is needed will depend on how much clearance there is ....which can only be determined by measuring.? ? ?If you haven't heard any noise coming from this motor, it is very probably "fine".? ? This is a vertical application as opposed to a horizontal.? There should be even wear throughout all the bearings. ? Don't be surprised if Hammond made this motor ...originally. ? ? ? ? On Tuesday, June 14, 2022, 07:38:53 AM PDT, Don Resor <organlists1@...> wrote: ? ? Is there felt as part of the motor’s bushings where it is set into the casting? ?If so you can add oil to the felt reservoir and reassemble. ? ?After cleaning light oil of the motor shafts will aid in reassembly. ?Be sure to use SAE 20. ? Hammond generator oil is kind of light for this purpose. ? Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone
Hi everyone! ??? This week I thought I’d take out the Leslie motor out of my 122 to give them a good cleaning and thorough oiling. Upon looking at the upper stack, I found an interesting slow motor – the bearing had no port hole for oiling like the original motors. I am attaching a few pics in hope that someone in the group can enlighten me and others who may have one of these odd ball motors in their Leslie cabinet. I would be interested to know what company made these and at what time in the Leslie company history. ? Cheers, Jean ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? |
Re: Leslie odd ball slow motor
开云体育Thanks Wayne!? The oiling port does make it easier to lubricate the felt but I prefer to see and ensure those felts get oiled evenly and sufficiently without over-oiling. It’s a pain to have to taking things apart to lubricate but then that process enables parts inspection too. I wonder if Don Leslie thought his Leslies would last 50+ years….. ? Cheers, JD ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: Wayne Tarling via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:18 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Jean Duplantie Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Leslie odd ball slow motor ? For fear of stepping on any "Hammond Experts" ....there is nothing extraordinary about this application.? It's a motor with oilite bearings.? Just happens to be in a Leslie in this case. ? An annual oiling of literally any kind of lube oil (I'm being crass) is better than nothing, and usually not necessary.? ?An oiling every couple or three years may in fact be fine ....but the regimen should be based on the amount of "on time" the organ sees annually. ? Also, if felt has been designed into this application, it helps to extend the oiling rqmnts and is sometimes used to provide a little bit of sealing from contaminants getting into the bearing.? I don't want to speculate what the design engineers intent was back then. ? When you reassemble try to determine if there is any movement (play) between shaft and bearing.? If its tight ...3in1 will do fine .....without having you search for a small quantity of lubrication somewhere.? ?If there is "wiggle-room" between shaft and bearing, then you need a more viscous oil.? What is needed will depend on how much clearance there is ....which can only be determined by measuring.? ? ?If you haven't heard any noise coming from this motor, it is very probably "fine".? ? This is a vertical application as opposed to a horizontal.? There should be even wear throughout all the bearings. ? Don't be surprised if Hammond made this motor ...originally. ? ? ? ? On Tuesday, June 14, 2022, 07:38:53 AM PDT, Don Resor <organlists1@...> wrote: ? ? Is there felt as part of the motor’s bushings where it is set into the casting? ?If so you can add oil to the felt reservoir and reassemble. ? ?After cleaning light oil of the motor shafts will aid in reassembly. ?Be sure to use SAE 20. ? Hammond generator oil is kind of light for this purpose. ? Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone
Hi everyone! ??? This week I thought I’d take out the Leslie motor out of my 122 to give them a good cleaning and thorough oiling. Upon looking at the upper stack, I found an interesting slow motor – the bearing had no port hole for oiling like the original motors. I am attaching a few pics in hope that someone in the group can enlighten me and others who may have one of these odd ball motors in their Leslie cabinet. I would be interested to know what company made these and at what time in the Leslie company history. ? Cheers, Jean ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? |
Re: Leslie odd ball slow motor
开云体育Originally they were manufactured by General Industries.? Same as the 4 pole fast motors, and the “run” motor in a Hammond tone wheel organ. ? I can see that what appears to be CMC is stamped into the bushing plate, and a quick internet search turned up nothing.? I’ve not seen one like this before. ? Maybe it was replaced, or repaired with motor ends from another 2-pole shaded motor? ? Reaching for straws here. ? ? Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://hammondorganservice.com ? ? ? ? From: Jean Duplantie <hery_jd@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 8:24 AM To: Don Resor <organlists1@...>; [email protected] Subject: RE: [hammondzone] Leslie odd ball slow motor ? Yes Don, there is a felt inside. Good idea with the SAE 20 oil. I also opened up the fast motor to oil those felts visually. Any idea on the manufacturer of that slow motor? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: Don Resor ? Is there felt as part of the motor’s bushings where it is set into the casting? ?If so you can add oil to the felt reservoir and reassemble. ? ?After cleaning light oil of the motor shafts will aid in reassembly. ?Be sure to use SAE 20. ? Hammond generator oil is kind of light for this purpose. ? Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone ?
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Re: Leslie odd ball slow motor
开云体育Yes Don, there is a felt inside. Good idea with the SAE 20 oil. I also opened up the fast motor to oil those felts visually. Any idea on the manufacturer of that slow motor? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: Don Resor
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 10:38 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Jean Duplantie Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Leslie odd ball slow motor ? Is there felt as part of the motor’s bushings where it is set into the casting? ?If so you can add oil to the felt reservoir and reassemble. ? ?After cleaning light oil of the motor shafts will aid in reassembly. ?Be sure to use SAE 20. ? Hammond generator oil is kind of light for this purpose. ? Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone
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Re: Leslie odd ball slow motor
For fear of stepping on any "Hammond Experts" ....there is nothing extraordinary about this application.? It's a motor with oilite bearings.? Just happens to be in a Leslie in this case. An annual oiling of literally any kind of lube oil (I'm being crass) is better than nothing, and usually not necessary.? ?An oiling every couple or three years may in fact be fine ....but the regimen should be based on the amount of "on time" the organ sees annually. Also, if felt has been designed into this application, it helps to extend the oiling rqmnts and is sometimes used to provide a little bit of sealing from contaminants getting into the bearing.? I don't want to speculate what the design engineers intent was back then. When you reassemble try to determine if there is any movement (play) between shaft and bearing.? If its tight ...3in1 will do fine .....without having you search for a small quantity of lubrication somewhere.? ?If there is "wiggle-room" between shaft and bearing, then you need a more viscous oil.? What is needed will depend on how much clearance there is ....which can only be determined by measuring.? ? ?If you haven't heard any noise coming from this motor, it is very probably "fine".? ? This is a vertical application as opposed to a horizontal.? There should be even wear throughout all the bearings. Don't be surprised if Hammond made this motor ...originally.
On Tuesday, June 14, 2022, 07:38:53 AM PDT, Don Resor <organlists1@...> wrote:
Is there felt as part of the motor’s bushings where it is set into the casting? ?If so you can add oil to the felt reservoir and reassemble. ? ?After cleaning light oil of the motor shafts will aid in reassembly. ?Be sure to use SAE 20. ? Hammond generator oil is kind of light for this purpose. Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone On Jun 14, 2022, at 7:21 AM, jean duplanty via groups.io <hery_jd@...> wrote:
Hi everyone! ??? This week I thought I’d take out the Leslie motor out of my 122 to give them a good cleaning and thorough oiling. Upon looking at the upper stack, I found an interesting slow motor – the bearing had no port hole for oiling like the original motors. I am attaching a few pics in hope that someone in the group can enlighten me and others who may have one of these odd ball motors in their Leslie cabinet. I would be interested to know what company made these and at what time in the Leslie company history. ? Cheers, Jean ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? |
Re: Leslie odd ball slow motor
开云体育Is there felt as part of the motor’s bushings where it is set into the casting? ?If so you can add oil to the felt reservoir and reassemble. ? ?After cleaning light oil of the motor shafts will aid in reassembly. ?Be sure to use SAE 20. ? Hammond generator oil is kind of light for this purpose.Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone On Jun 14, 2022, at 7:21 AM, jean duplanty via groups.io <hery_jd@...> wrote:
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Leslie odd ball slow motor
开云体育Hi everyone! ??? This week I thought I’d take out the Leslie motor out of my 122 to give them a good cleaning and thorough oiling. Upon looking at the upper stack, I found an interesting slow motor – the bearing had no port hole for oiling like the original motors. I am attaching a few pics in hope that someone in the group can enlighten me and others who may have one of these odd ball motors in their Leslie cabinet. I would be interested to know what company made these and at what time in the Leslie company history. ? Cheers, Jean ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? |
Re: A100 for sale
开云体育Nice box, interesting. The map on CL shows the location as on the Washington side of the Columbia River. How far is it from I-5?
On 6/9/2022 8:56 AM, Steven Mason via
groups.io wrote:
I am selling my A100 / 147 Leslie.?? Its located near Portland Oregon.?? Here is a link to the ad.? |
Re: Locating a Defoaming expert
开云体育Thanks Organ Guy!? I found a couple of great YouTube videos about John’s shop. He is bookmarked for sure. ? Cheers!! ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: organ guy
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 1:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Locating a Defoaming expert ? John's Hammond Organ Service in Detroit Michigan. John Doyle will take good care of your Hammond organ and Leslie speaker. Good reputable guy. Knows his stuff. Call John Doyle. ? |