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Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

... apologies, English is not my native language, I have no idea what you said/asked. Hopefully someone else can offer assistance. SeventyThree(s).

On 05/23/2025 7:15 PM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io <luigiverdicchio1@...> wrote:
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but if you decide to switch to another log there is the ADIF file that exports them and imports them into the new log. do not insert your old qsos one by one manually. anyway. thanks I'll check your help

Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 22:24 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
If you want to enter the gridsquare when entering a QSO, you must configure the logbook entry window to show gridsquare. Section 6.2.3 (Page 161) of the help file explains how to do this.
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Why are there two windows for entering QSOs in Logger32? Logger32 is a program for logging QSOs real-time. The Logbook Entry window is designed for that. You can put whatever fields are important to you, and enable?many options for quick real-time logging. Most users never use the ADD QSOs window. If they do, it is only to add QSOs from old logbooks. Look at Note: 140 at the very bottom of page 206 of the help file for recommendations.
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SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 3:53 PM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:
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thanks thanks for your help. the Telnet problem has been solved.
now if I add the qsos manually in the log window section the locator is not entered.
the thing I would like to understand if you allow me, why these two forms of qso insertion? when there could be one and differently architected?
my opinion
?

Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 18:12 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
Look at section 13.2 (page 295) of the help file. The green 'Hanson tip' tells you to use the Lucida console font so that DX Spot columns align correctly.
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Section 8,2,1 (Page 206) of the help file explains ho/where to open a window to manually add QSOs to your logbook. On this window you can set Band/Mode/Frequency/
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SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 9:34 AM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:
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I took some images from google as you can see the TELNET cluster window is aligned. The QSO insertion window has more information but I can't understand why it doesn't let the user enter the band and mode
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Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 12:19 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
1) use a font like Lucida Console for the Telnet Window.
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SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 1:47 AM EDT ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> wrote:
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My short answer below....
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73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?
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Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

but if you decide to switch to another log there is the ADIF file that exports them and imports them into the new log. do not insert your old qsos one by one manually. anyway. thanks I'll check your help

Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 22:24 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
If you want to enter the gridsquare when entering a QSO, you must configure the logbook entry window to show gridsquare. Section 6.2.3 (Page 161) of the help file explains how to do this.
?
Why are there two windows for entering QSOs in Logger32? Logger32 is a program for logging QSOs real-time. The Logbook Entry window is designed for that. You can put whatever fields are important to you, and enable?many options for quick real-time logging. Most users never use the ADD QSOs window. If they do, it is only to add QSOs from old logbooks. Look at Note: 140 at the very bottom of page 206 of the help file for recommendations.
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SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 3:53 PM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:
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thanks thanks for your help. the Telnet problem has been solved.
now if I add the qsos manually in the log window section the locator is not entered.
the thing I would like to understand if you allow me, why these two forms of qso insertion? when there could be one and differently architected?
my opinion
?

Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 18:12 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
Look at section 13.2 (page 295) of the help file. The green 'Hanson tip' tells you to use the Lucida console font so that DX Spot columns align correctly.
?
Section 8,2,1 (Page 206) of the help file explains ho/where to open a window to manually add QSOs to your logbook. On this window you can set Band/Mode/Frequency/
?
SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 9:34 AM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:
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I took some images from google as you can see the TELNET cluster window is aligned. The QSO insertion window has more information but I can't understand why it doesn't let the user enter the band and mode
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Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 12:19 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
1) use a font like Lucida Console for the Telnet Window.
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SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 1:47 AM EDT ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> wrote:
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My short answer below....
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73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?
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Re: FT710

 

Neil
What radio should be selected in the radio setting table ?
FT991 or FTDX10 will work.

73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-24 ÍÁ 4:17:50, Neil, G3RIR via groups.io <ackerley.neil@...> wrote:

What settings do I use to connect the FT710 to Logger32.
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I have no problem connecting it to N1MM.
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Neil G3RIR


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

If you want to enter the gridsquare when entering a QSO, you must configure the logbook entry window to show gridsquare. Section 6.2.3 (Page 161) of the help file explains how to do this.
?
Why are there two windows for entering QSOs in Logger32? Logger32 is a program for logging QSOs real-time. The Logbook Entry window is designed for that. You can put whatever fields are important to you, and enable?many options for quick real-time logging. Most users never use the ADD QSOs window. If they do, it is only to add QSOs from old logbooks. Look at Note: 140 at the very bottom of page 206 of the help file for recommendations.
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SeventyThree(s).

On 05/23/2025 3:53 PM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io <luigiverdicchio1@...> wrote:
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thanks thanks for your help. the Telnet problem has been solved.
now if I add the qsos manually in the log window section the locator is not entered.
the thing I would like to understand if you allow me, why these two forms of qso insertion? when there could be one and differently architected?
my opinion
?

Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 18:12 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
Look at section 13.2 (page 295) of the help file. The green 'Hanson tip' tells you to use the Lucida console font so that DX Spot columns align correctly.
?
Section 8,2,1 (Page 206) of the help file explains ho/where to open a window to manually add QSOs to your logbook. On this window you can set Band/Mode/Frequency/
?
SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 9:34 AM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:
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I took some images from google as you can see the TELNET cluster window is aligned. The QSO insertion window has more information but I can't understand why it doesn't let the user enter the band and mode
?

Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 12:19 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
1) use a font like Lucida Console for the Telnet Window.
?
SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 1:47 AM EDT ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> wrote:
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My short answer below....
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73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?
?

?

?

?

?


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

thanks thanks for your help. the Telnet problem has been solved.
now if I add the qsos manually in the log window section the locator is not entered.
the thing I would like to understand if you allow me, why these two forms of qso insertion? when there could be one and differently architected?
my opinion


Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 18:12 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
Look at section 13.2 (page 295) of the help file. The green 'Hanson tip' tells you to use the Lucida console font so that DX Spot columns align correctly.
?
Section 8,2,1 (Page 206) of the help file explains ho/where to open a window to manually add QSOs to your logbook. On this window you can set Band/Mode/Frequency/
?
SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 9:34 AM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:
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I took some images from google as you can see the TELNET cluster window is aligned. The QSO insertion window has more information but I can't understand why it doesn't let the user enter the band and mode
?

Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 12:19 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
1) use a font like Lucida Console for the Telnet Window.
?
SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 1:47 AM EDT ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> wrote:
?
?
My short answer below....
?
73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?
?

?

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FT710

 

What settings do I use to connect the FT710 to Logger32.
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I have no problem connecting it to N1MM.
?
Neil G3RIR


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

Look at section 13.2 (page 295) of the help file. The green 'Hanson tip' tells you to use the Lucida console font so that DX Spot columns align correctly.
?
Section 8,2,1 (Page 206) of the help file explains ho/where to open a window to manually add QSOs to your logbook. On this window you can set Band/Mode/Frequency/
?
SeventyThree(s).

On 05/23/2025 9:34 AM EDT Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io <luigiverdicchio1@...> wrote:
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I took some images from google as you can see the TELNET cluster window is aligned. The QSO insertion window has more information but I can't understand why it doesn't let the user enter the band and mode
?

Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 12:19 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
1) use a font like Lucida Console for the Telnet Window.
?
SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 1:47 AM EDT ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> wrote:
?
?
My short answer below....
?
73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?
?

?

?


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

I took some images from google as you can see the TELNET cluster window is aligned. The QSO insertion window has more information but I can't understand why it doesn't let the user enter the band and mode


Il giorno ven 23 mag 2025 alle ore 12:19 Bob via <k4cy=[email protected]> ha scritto:
1) use a font like Lucida Console for the Telnet Window.
?
SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 1:47 AM EDT ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> wrote:
?
?
My short answer below....
?
73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?
?


Re: new installation

 

The Logger32 help file is at
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Look at section 2.12 (page 68) for possible solutions.
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If that does not solve your problem, then maybe copying the Logger32 INI from one PC to another was not such a good idea. Look for a file called Logger32.INI in the default Logger32 directory. Temporarily rename it to Logger32.OLD.INI.
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SeventyThree(s).
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On 05/23/2025 8:46 AM EDT IZ5ILJ Lenio <iz5ilj@...> wrote:
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Hi guys, I did a fresh install in a new PC and moved the contents of the
old Logger32 folder to the new one, I got an error that closed the
program at some point. How can I figure out why?
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TNX for help. 73's Lenio IZ5ILJ.
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new installation

 

Hi guys, I did a fresh install in a new PC and moved the contents of the old Logger32 folder to the new one, I got an error that closed the program at some point. How can I figure out why?

TNX for help. 73's Lenio IZ5ILJ.


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

1) use a font like Lucida Console for the Telnet Window.
?
SeventyThree(s).

On 05/23/2025 1:47 AM EDT ja1nlx via groups.io <ayoshida0205@...> wrote:
?
?
My short answer below....
?
73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io <luigiverdicchio1@...> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?
?


Re: Suggestion for Logger32 User Manual

 

Hi Gary
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Thanks for that.
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I actually found that there's one LLM model that can accept a huge PDF (expensive) but all others are apparently limited to about the first 100 pages of a PDF in chat mode.?
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But in batch mode one can accept up to a 1 GB PDF... so we will get there ?
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I'm on the AI committee at work and there's actually some useful stuff the AIs can do - pretty much replacing the role of low-skilled juniors.
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Makes me wonder what the low skilled juniors will do when all those jobs are filled!
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One type of model that is super impressive is the "reasoning" type model.? Far fewer hallucinations, and it shows you the steps in its logic.
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I was working on a complex computational electromagnetics problem and was unsure what choice to make regarding a tradeoff between complicated boundary conditions versus simplicity elsewhere and after I wrote a very clear and detailed explanation of the problem, the AI (DeepSeek R1) produce 28 pages of what sounded like a physics grad student explaining to their professor how they would calculate soemthing, the tradeoffs, etc, then it went into a load of vector calculus (all correct) and ended up with a ton of good analysis.? It took time to go through it but was all correct!? Amazing - much more than the "guess the next word/token that standard AIs do...
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I hear Grok3 is also very impressive with science related stuff.
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Other AIs like "MS Copilot" are more like what you were describing.
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73
Mike M0AGP


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

and¡¡you should read Logger32 users manual.

https://www.logger32.net/files/Logger32_v4_User_Manual.pdf

73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 16:57:37, Jan via groups.io <hamlogger@...> wrote:

Luigi
See the pictures;
We use the DXspots window (the one on the right side)
Once the telnet connection has started you can minimize the telnet window (the one on the left side)
73
Jan PA4JJ



Op 23-5-2025 om 09:20 schreef Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io:
thanks for the reply. I entered the word Logger32 in Google and opened the image window. from what I see I notice the TELNET window with aligned lines and the QSO insertion window some different from mine.

Il ven 23 mag 2025, 07:48 ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> ha scritto:
My short answer below....

73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?

--
____________________________________________________
my dxspider clusters running on a raspberry pi:
               pa4jj-2 77.174.195.163 port 7300
NO FT8/FT4 spots on pa4jj-3 77.174.195.163 port 7388


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Luigi
See the pictures;
We use the DXspots window (the one on the right side)
Once the telnet connection has started you can minimize the telnet window (the one on the left side)
73
Jan PA4JJ



Op 23-5-2025 om 09:20 schreef Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io:
thanks for the reply. I entered the word Logger32 in Google and opened the image window. from what I see I notice the TELNET window with aligned lines and the QSO insertion window some different from mine.

Il ven 23 mag 2025, 07:48 ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> ha scritto:
My short answer below....

73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?

-- 
____________________________________________________
my dxspider clusters running on a raspberry pi:  
               pa4jj-2 77.174.195.163 port 7300
NO FT8/FT4 spots on pa4jj-3 77.174.195.163 port 7388


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

thanks for the reply. I entered the word Logger32 in Google and opened the image window. from what I see I notice the TELNET window with aligned lines and the QSO insertion window some different from mine.


Il ven 23 mag 2025, 07:48 ja1nlx via <ayoshida0205=[email protected]> ha scritto:
My short answer below....

73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?


Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

My short answer below....

73 de aki
JA1NLX

On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io <luigiverdicchio1@...> wrote:

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)

2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
?


help about telnet cluster and qso AD

 

hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
?


Re: Suggestion for Logger32 User Manual

 

Mornin' Mike.

First of all, thank you for that suggestion - good idea.? I will add a link in section 8.1.1 to section 8.9.?

Secondly re AI, I'm tracking developments in the field of AI, watching and mostly waiting for the boffins to come up with AI systems that learn more like teenagers than pre-schoolers - in particular, current AI LLM system tend to be naughty (they don't naturally appreciate the difference between appropriate and inappropriate responses) and they sometimes drift into fantasy ('hallucinations' they're called) but expressed in such convincing terms that adults who don't think critically and check the facts can be fooled.? All in all, depending on the current crop of AI is like taking advice from a 5 year old.? It will take a while longer, yet, before AI comes of age.

Ingesting a 1,000 page document and spewing forth a digested form should be a breeze for the AI robots ... although maybe not the bargain basement ones currently available for free on the Interwebs.? ?To be really useful, though, they would also need to learn loads about ham radio around the world, licensing, operating, DXing, QSLing, awards, CAT, radios, comms technology and more.? I guess this may already be happening in the world of professional radio comms e.g. for military purposes.

Looking still further ahead, Bob, the Logger32 beta crew and I will eventually all be redundant as the AI robots pick up the skills to write, test and document useful applications.??

As to AI robots DXing and making QSOs, well we're already there at a basic level with FT8 autoresponders.? Simply sit back and watch your digi-shack having fun.? No doubt deepfake?technology will in time be applied to making CW and then speech QSOs too, and we'll all be redundant, having engineered ourselves out of the hobby.??

Thanks again for the feedback on the manual and an inspiring suggestion!

73
Gary?
?beater/tester &?
Honor Roll &? checker



On Thu, 22 May 2025 at 22:14, Mike M0AGP via <mg.weber=[email protected]> wrote:
First - thank you for all the free support for the fantastic Logger32!
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My suggestion:
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In section 8.1 which tells you how to use multiple callsigns, the User Manual correctly says how to switch to a different logbook.
The immediate question that comes to mind is "but how do I create another logbook?"
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What would be great is to add a sentence saying "See section 8.9 on how to create a new logbook."
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A future AI thing:? it's possible to upload a PDF and then ask an AI questions about the PDF (we do this at work sometimes).? Currently AIs are not capable of ingesting more than about a 100 page PDF (at least in "chat mode").? The excellent User Manual is well over 900 pages so this can't be done yet.
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But just imagine if the entire manual could be uploaded into an AI so you could ask it questions!
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Users could ask their dumb questions (like mine) and it would take a big load off of the heroes helping all of us dummies out here!
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73
Mike M0AGP/M4E
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Suggestion for Logger32 User Manual

 

First - thank you for all the free support for the fantastic Logger32!
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My suggestion:
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In section 8.1 which tells you how to use multiple callsigns, the User Manual correctly says how to switch to a different logbook.
The immediate question that comes to mind is "but how do I create another logbook?"
?
What would be great is to add a sentence saying "See section 8.9 on how to create a new logbook."
?
A future AI thing:? it's possible to upload a PDF and then ask an AI questions about the PDF (we do this at work sometimes).? Currently AIs are not capable of ingesting more than about a 100 page PDF (at least in "chat mode").? The excellent User Manual is well over 900 pages so this can't be done yet.
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But just imagine if the entire manual could be uploaded into an AI so you could ask it questions!
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Users could ask their dumb questions (like mine) and it would take a big load off of the heroes helping all of us dummies out here!
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73
Mike M0AGP/M4E
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Re: file cty.dat was not found

 

Tnx people...I found it...the file was for CC User (ve7cc).? Startup program got pointed to incorrect directory
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