Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD
1) use a font like Lucida Console for the Telnet Window.
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SeventyThree(s).
On 05/23/2025 1:47 AM EDT ja1nlx via groups.io <ayoshida0205@...> wrote:
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My short answer below....
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On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io <luigiverdicchio1@...> wrote:
hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)
2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
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Re: Suggestion for Logger32 User Manual
Hi Gary
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Thanks for that.
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I actually found that there's one LLM model that can accept a huge PDF (expensive) but all others are apparently limited to about the first 100 pages of a PDF in chat mode.?
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But in batch mode one can accept up to a 1 GB PDF... so we will get there ?
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I'm on the AI committee at work and there's actually some useful stuff the AIs can do - pretty much replacing the role of low-skilled juniors.
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Makes me wonder what the low skilled juniors will do when all those jobs are filled!
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One type of model that is super impressive is the "reasoning" type model.? Far fewer hallucinations, and it shows you the steps in its logic.
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I was working on a complex computational electromagnetics problem and was unsure what choice to make regarding a tradeoff between complicated boundary conditions versus simplicity elsewhere and after I wrote a very clear and detailed explanation of the problem, the AI (DeepSeek R1) produce 28 pages of what sounded like a physics grad student explaining to their professor how they would calculate soemthing, the tradeoffs, etc, then it went into a load of vector calculus (all correct) and ended up with a ton of good analysis.? It took time to go through it but was all correct!? Amazing - much more than the "guess the next word/token that standard AIs do...
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I hear Grok3 is also very impressive with science related stuff.
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Other AIs like "MS Copilot" are more like what you were describing.
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Mike M0AGP
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Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD
and¡¡you should read Logger32 users manual.
https://www.logger32.net/files/Logger32_v4_User_Manual.pdf
On 2025-05-23 ½ð 16:57:37, Jan via groups.io <hamlogger@...> wrote:
Luigi
See the pictures;
We use the DXspots window (the one on the right side)
Once the telnet connection has started you can minimize the telnet
window (the one on the left side)
73
Jan PA4JJ
Op 23-5-2025 om 09:20 schreef Luigi
Verdicchio via groups.io:
thanks
for the reply. I entered the word Logger32 in Google and
opened the image window. from what I see I notice the TELNET
window with aligned lines and the QSO insertion window some
different from mine.
My short answer
below....
On 2025-05-23 ½ð
14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via
<luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]>
wrote:
hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to
understand its potential day by day before switching
definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very
intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET
cluster window?
Akira
Yoshida:?
You should
open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)
2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to
insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in
my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the
band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i
see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary
this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira
Yoshida:?
If you
want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use
"Add QSO manually" window.
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my dxspider clusters running on a raspberry pi:
pa4jj-2 77.174.195.163 port 7300
NO FT8/FT4 spots on pa4jj-3 77.174.195.163 port 7388
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Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD
Luigi
See the pictures;
We use the DXspots window (the one on the right side)
Once the telnet connection has started you can minimize the telnet
window (the one on the left side)
73
Jan PA4JJ
Op 23-5-2025 om 09:20 schreef Luigi
Verdicchio via groups.io:
thanks
for the reply. I entered the word Logger32 in Google and
opened the image window. from what I see I notice the TELNET
window with aligned lines and the QSO insertion window some
different from mine.
My short answer
below....
On 2025-05-23 ½ð
14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via
<luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]>
wrote:
hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to
understand its potential day by day before switching
definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very
intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET
cluster window?
Akira
Yoshida:?
You should
open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)
2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to
insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in
my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the
band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i
see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary
this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira
Yoshida:?
If you
want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use
"Add QSO manually" window.
--
____________________________________________________
my dxspider clusters running on a raspberry pi:
pa4jj-2 77.174.195.163 port 7300
NO FT8/FT4 spots on pa4jj-3 77.174.195.163 port 7388
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Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD
thanks for the reply. I entered the word Logger32 in Google and opened the image window. from what I see I notice the TELNET window with aligned lines and the QSO insertion window some different from mine.
My short answer below....
On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via <luigiverdicchio1=[email protected]> wrote: hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window? Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)
2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
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Re: help about telnet cluster and qso AD
My short answer below....
On 2025-05-23 ½ð 14:41:07, Luigi Verdicchio via groups.io <luigiverdicchio1@...> wrote: hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window? Akira Yoshida:?
You should open DX spot window? (not only Telnet window)
2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
Akira Yoshida:?
If you want to add old QSO in Logger32, then you should use "Add QSO manually" window.
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help about telnet cluster and qso AD
hi
i am a new user of logger32 and i am trying to understand its potential day by day before switching definitively, although in my opinion i see it not very intuitive but with time maybe.....
i have two questions to ask who wants to help me:
1) how do you align/justify the lines in the TELNET cluster window?
2) the QSO insertion window i find it difficult to insert the contact, i have to use the manual one. in my old log i do not enter the frequency but only the band and mode here it asks me for the frequency and i see the default frequency and mode. how can i vary this window by adding other fields as i like?
thanks
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Re: Suggestion for Logger32 User Manual
Mornin' Mike.
First of all, thank you for that suggestion - good idea.? I will add a link in section 8.1.1 to section 8.9.? Secondly re AI, I'm tracking developments in the field of AI, watching and mostly waiting for the boffins to come up with AI systems that learn more like teenagers than pre-schoolers - in particular, current AI LLM system tend to be naughty (they don't naturally appreciate the difference between appropriate and inappropriate responses) and they sometimes drift into fantasy ('hallucinations' they're called) but expressed in such convincing terms that adults who don't think critically and check the facts can be fooled.? All in all, depending on the current crop of AI is like taking advice from a 5 year old.? It will take a while longer, yet, before AI comes of age.
Ingesting a 1,000 page document and spewing forth a digested form should be a breeze for the AI robots ... although maybe not the bargain basement ones currently available for free on the Interwebs.? ?To be really useful, though, they would also need to learn loads about ham radio around the world, licensing, operating, DXing, QSLing, awards, CAT, radios, comms technology and more.? I guess this may already be happening in the world of professional radio comms e.g. for military purposes.
Looking still further ahead, Bob, the Logger32 beta crew and I will eventually all be redundant as the AI robots pick up the skills to write, test and document useful applications.??
As to AI robots DXing and making QSOs, well we're already there at a basic level with FT8 autoresponders.? Simply sit back and watch your digi-shack having fun.? No doubt deepfake?technology will in time be applied to making CW and then speech QSOs too, and we'll all be redundant, having engineered ourselves out of the hobby.??
Thanks again for the feedback on the manual and an inspiring suggestion!
73 Gary? ?beater/tester &?
Honor Roll &? checker
First - thank you for all the free support for the fantastic Logger32!
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My suggestion:
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In section 8.1 which tells you how to use multiple callsigns, the User Manual correctly says how to switch to a different logbook.
The immediate question that comes to mind is "but how do I create another logbook?"
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What would be great is to add a sentence saying "See section 8.9 on how to create a new logbook."
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A future AI thing:? it's possible to upload a PDF and then ask an AI questions about the PDF (we do this at work sometimes).? Currently AIs are not capable of ingesting more than about a 100 page PDF (at least in "chat mode").? The excellent User Manual is well over 900 pages so this can't be done yet.
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But just imagine if the entire manual could be uploaded into an AI so you could ask it questions!
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Users could ask their dumb questions (like mine) and it would take a big load off of the heroes helping all of us dummies out here!
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73
Mike M0AGP/M4E
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Suggestion for Logger32 User Manual
First - thank you for all the free support for the fantastic Logger32!
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My suggestion:
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In section 8.1 which tells you how to use multiple callsigns, the User Manual correctly says how to switch to a different logbook.
The immediate question that comes to mind is "but how do I create another logbook?"
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What would be great is to add a sentence saying "See section 8.9 on how to create a new logbook."
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A future AI thing:? it's possible to upload a PDF and then ask an AI questions about the PDF (we do this at work sometimes).? Currently AIs are not capable of ingesting more than about a 100 page PDF (at least in "chat mode").? The excellent User Manual is well over 900 pages so this can't be done yet.
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But just imagine if the entire manual could be uploaded into an AI so you could ask it questions!
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Users could ask their dumb questions (like mine) and it would take a big load off of the heroes helping all of us dummies out here!
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73
Mike M0AGP/M4E
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Re: file cty.dat was not found
Tnx people...I found it...the file was for CC User (ve7cc).? Startup program got pointed to incorrect directory
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Re: file cty.dat was not found
I think you're right Aki, the error message is not nearly cryptic or sarcastic enough for Logger32. Not even a 'The sky is falling' Chicken Little title. SeventyThree(s).
On 05/21/2025 8:46 PM EDT ja1nlx via groups.io <ayoshida0205@...> wrote:
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I think this file is not for Logger32.
Maybe, other program use it.
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On 2025-05-22 ľ 9:34:03, Richard Zalewski W7ZR via groups.io <dick.w7zr@...> wrote:
Never before:
So how do I fix?
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Re: file cty.dat was not found
I think this file is not for Logger32. Maybe, other program use it.
On 2025-05-22 ľ 9:34:03, Richard Zalewski W7ZR via groups.io <dick.w7zr@...> wrote: Never before:  So how do I fix?
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file cty.dat was not found
Never before:  So how do I fix?
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Il giorno lun 19 mag 2025 alle ore 11:40 Bob via <k4cy= [email protected]> ha scritto:
Thanks for the information about DXMap. I have no plans to provide a Logger32 interface to this software. SeventyThree(s).
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Hi Bob,
I hope you are doing great!
I came across this interesting website
Just wondering if you consider interesting the possibility of connecting it with Logger32.
The API reference is available here
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Features
- Live Keyboarding : While typing the callsign in the log, HamDXMap will be informed, this partial callsign is copied in the RX callsign zone of HamDXMap. You will be able to locate the caller on the worldmap. You can detect any inconsistencies in the situation by looking at the MUF/foF2 curve in the panel.
- Logged Call : When the callsign is logged, the entire callsign is saved in HamDXMap (client brownser side). A circle with red border is drawed on the map. The display of these points is globally authorised/forbidden by the user with the Log source, in the filter section.
- DX-Cluster : All the spots coming over wtTelnet () are memorized on your browser in HamDXMap during a giving configured time (Storage depth parameter). User can filter the spot and make a ring be sounded for all new spot displayed. The display of these DXCluster spots is globally authorised/forbidden by the user with the DXc source, in the filter section.
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73
Andrea, iz2lsc
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Thanks for the information about DXMap. I have no plans to provide a Logger32 interface to this software. SeventyThree(s).
On 05/19/2025 1:53 AM EDT Andrea via groups.io <fuffa2k5@...> wrote:
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Hi Bob,
I hope you are doing great!
I came across this interesting website
Just wondering if you consider interesting the possibility of connecting it with Logger32.
The API reference is available here
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- : While typing the callsign in the log, HamDXMap will be informed, this partial callsign is copied in the RX callsign zone of HamDXMap. You will be able to locate the caller on the worldmap. You can detect any inconsistencies in the situation by looking at the MUF/foF2 curve in the panel.
- : When the callsign is logged, the entire callsign is saved in HamDXMap (client brownser side). A circle with red border is drawed on the map. The display of these points is globally authorised/forbidden by the user with the Log source, in the filter section.
- : All the spots coming over wtTelnet () are memorized on your browser in HamDXMap during a giving configured time (Storage depth parameter). User can filter the spot and make a ring be sounded for all new spot displayed. The display of these DXCluster spots is globally authorised/forbidden by the user with the DXc source, in the filter section.
73
Andrea, iz2lsc
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Hi Bob,
I hope you are doing great! I came across this interesting website Just wondering if you consider interesting the possibility of connecting it with Logger32. The API reference is available here
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: While typing the callsign in the log, HamDXMap will be informed, this
partial callsign is copied in the RX callsign zone of HamDXMap. You
will be able to locate the caller on the worldmap. You can detect any
inconsistencies in the situation by looking at the MUF/foF2 curve in the
panel.
-
: When the callsign is logged, the entire callsign is saved in HamDXMap
(client brownser side). A circle with red border is drawed on the map.
The display of these points is globally authorised/forbidden by the user
with the Log source, in the filter section.
- : All the spots coming over wtTelnet ()
are memorized on your browser in HamDXMap during a giving configured
time (Storage depth parameter). User can filter the spot and make a ring
be sounded for all new spot displayed. The display of these DXCluster
spots is globally authorised/forbidden by the user with the DXc source, in the filter section.
73 Andrea, iz2lsc
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Re: soemtimes Flex (SmartSDR) and logger lose each other
How is SmartSDR working now? I see no software updates, but Flex is?now offering a new radio ... looks to me like a 500w version (with built in ATU) of the 8xxx, 73.
On 05/14/2025 10:58 AM EDT Johan ZS1A via groups.io <j-s@...> wrote:
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Hi Frank and Oom Bob. (It is a South African thing)
Ok I will from now on start Smart SDR first then Logger .? I also changed? the radio setup from Power SDR to Smart SDR..
Thanks Bob I enabled the Error Trapping.
Lets roll and see how it goes.
Thanks to all.
ZS1A
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Hi Bob,
Even ham band markers would be nice.
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73, Gerry
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Hi Bob, thanks to your advice I solved
I set bands & mode between 5.354 and 5.360 and now everything works.
THANKS AGAIN !
73' IK6CGO
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I don't know how you have Logger32 configured, but when Logging FT8 QSOs?from JTDX, the FREQ_TX field is logged as VFO + Tx audio. So, your VFO frequency? was less than 5357.? Try setting the USB segment of your BandPlan to start 5354.
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Or something like that. SeventyThree(s).
On 05/16/2025 9:11 AM EDT IK6CGO via groups.io <ik6cgo@...> wrote:
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5,357?
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Jan
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IK6CGO