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Here's a simple request from one op who is interested in amps. Personal grudge matches are bad news and will put off people who don't have any ax to grind. If we really want to support ham amplifier work, this stuff is counterproductive. Let's take our flames back to the NNTP world.

I am giving the Yahoo group a try, because I think the anonymous moderation and "appropriate use" policies of the other list were very worrisome.

I hope I don't have to unsubscribe from both of these groups!

73 Martin AA6E

On Sep 20, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Martin AA6E wrote:

Here's a simple request from one op who is interested in amps. Personal
grudge matches are bad news and will put off people who don't have any
ax to grind.

The W8JI-AG6K dispute that existed on AMPS - and previously on rec,amateur-radio.homebrew was not grudge based, it was based on electronic theory. W8JI's position was that AC circuit-analysis was inaccurate when analyzing VHF parasitic suppressors, that Ni-Cr alloys had reverse skin effect at HF, and that even though a DC current pulse could ring a HF-resonant circuit, it could not ring a VHF-resonant circuit. I did not agree and said so.

If we really want to support ham amplifier work, this
stuff is counterproductive.

Allowing newcomers to believe that W8JI's above statements are correct is productive?

Let's take our flames back to the NNTP world.

Telling people what to do is hardly good form.

I am giving the Yahoo group a try, because I think the anonymous
moderation and "appropriate use" policies of the other list were very
worrisome.

The straw that broke the camel's back was when Tom censored my post about why the TL-922 switches faster from Tx to Rx than it does when switching from Rx to Tx -- which could help to explain why so many 922 owners experience parasitic arcing when switching to Rx from Tx.

I hope I don't have to unsubscribe from both of these groups!

Zzzzzzzzzzz

73 Martin AA6E
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:16:41 -0400, Martin AA6E
<aa6e@...> wrote:

Here's a simple request from one op who is interested in amps. Personal
grudge matches are bad news and will put off people who don't have any
ax to grind.

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I agree 100%, but a distinction needs to be made between "personal
grudge matches" and a spirited debate.

I too abhor the postings where each side simply calls the other names,
questions their parentage and generally reviles them any way they can.

That is not the same as questioning the other's knowledge and
application of theory, conclusions drawn or recommendations made.
Those things SHOULD be questioned when appropriate and it often leads
to a heated atmosphere, which I don't mind at all since that usually
eventually leads to the truth.

At the other end of the spectrum are posts which are so bland as to
generate no interest at all. Those also should be avoided like the
plague. Like most things in life, there is a balance to be found.

73, Bill W6WRT

On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Bill Turner wrote:

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:16:41 -0400, Martin AA6E
<aa6e@...> wrote:

Here's a simple request from one op who is interested in amps. Personal
grudge matches are bad news and will put off people who don't have any
ax to grind.

------------ REPLY FOLLOWS ------------

I agree 100%, but a distinction needs to be made between "personal
grudge matches" and a spirited debate.

A grudge match is when the party whose conclusion does not add up won't budge.

I too abhor the postings where each side simply calls the other names,
questions their parentage and generally reviles them any way they can.

I welcome ad hominems, expletives, yo' mamma insults and suggestions that I might be doing my helper girl since that usually indicates that the debate has concluded.

That is not the same as questioning the other's knowledge and
application of theory, conclusions drawn or recommendations made.
Those things SHOULD be questioned when appropriate and it often leads
to a heated atmosphere, which I don't mind at all since that usually
eventually leads to the truth.

Indeed. Bill

At the other end of the spectrum are posts which are so bland as to
generate no interest at all. Those also should be avoided like the
plague. Like most things in life, there is a balance to be found.

like "Which end of the soldering iron should I hold when soldering?"

73, Bill W6WRT



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