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New PSUD-3 now in the works !
I keep finding anomalies? with? PSUD-2.? Like when a plane jane? L-C??
filter is used, the +? and? -? peak V? across the? choke is beyond? sky high...
like? 17 +? KV? ! I tried every possible LC config? you can think of, and still get? sky
high? V across the choke.?? Also tried increasing the input Z of the plate xfmr,
and increasing the ESR of the filter caps, lowering the B+, and also? varying the steady state
load on the supply.? Using the stepped load feature of PSUD-2, like idle current
to normal full bore plate current.... or vice versa,? still bad results.? ? Another? issue is when a glitch resistor is used, like typ a HV fuse
inserted? in the B+? line, followed? by the? glitch resistor,? PSUD?? wont
allow? you to insert just the resistor. It wants to see a RC network tacked onto the existing? filter.?? To get
around that,? I used? .01 uf.... which is the smallest value? PSUD-2? allows to
be used.??? The idea being the .01 uf is the? bypass cap at the cold end of the plate choke.???? OK, now
the problems start.? PSUD-2? P-P? ripple? goes nuts, and very ..spiky.?? Once
the C2? cap is increased to .03 uf, then the anomalies and spikes? vanish. ? Also noted is that a C-L network or a? C-R network does not improve the
p-p? ripple at all,? none.?? P-P ripple is the same as just a plane C
filter. ? I was experimenting with both a C-L-C and also a C-R-C? filter setup.?? But
once the additional?? glitch R? +? bypass cap was added to the mix,? ripple
results are spiky. The bypass cap value has to be increased to... fool the? PSUD-2? software.?
? If a HV fuse used, followed by a glitch resistor....and? B+? arcs to
chassis, or the grounded grid inside the triode, then its an eye opener.?? Peak
fault current goes sky high, then HV fuse opens? up? <? 2 msecs later.?? The back emf on the? choke
is? sky high.???? Even if a glitch resistor? +? HV fuse were not used,? and B+
arced,? and mains? breaker /? fuse opened up, this may still explain choke failures? on henry radio amps. ? A? C-R-C network will reduce? the? ripple in half, vs just a? C? filter by
itself.? C filter in the 2nd case would be just the?? C1? +? C2 caps? in
parallel. A? C-L-C? filter? will reduce the ripple down to nothing... like? -113
db.?? Ripple on my drake? supply is? -30 db. ? Duncan? Monro,? M0KGK? responded? a few? hrs ago, that he is working on?
PSUD-3.?? IF any of you that use? PSUD-2? note any screwball? results, he needs
your files asap. The idea is the? offending parameters, anomalies,? can be tested on the new
PSUD-3 version,? before releasing it. ? There are a? few other items that need to be addressed, like?? outputting
ripple results in? peak to peak,? and also in RMS, and also in ¨C XXX? DB.?? For
commercial use, expressing ripple in ¨Cdb is typ.? Although the stepped load feature of?
PSUD is useful, it does not simulate a real world varying load, like you would
have on SSB, AM, or an audio amplifier application.?? IE:? a real world? dynamic load.?? The
stepped? load feature on PSUD-2? either removes the load asap, or slams a load
on asap. Thats? good enough for cw use..and thats it.?? The current version of?
PSUD-2? will depict?? RMS ripple current into the C1? and also C2 caps.?? It¡¯s
the only tool I have found that will at least depict? ripple current into a simple C filter... which is?
typ?? 2 to 2.5? times the loaded DC current.? Which also explains why some caps
will internally heat up using high duty cycle modes like data, AM,?? FM etc,?? and or? dry out
quicker.?? Typ larger value caps also have higher? ripple current ratings.
? Filter ringing, overshoot,? and number of cycles? before the? ringing
subsides..and also? LP filter cutoff? need to be addressed.?? As is,? PSUD-2?
will only handle? single phase power supplies, and only? a choice of 50-60-400 hz.???? 3 phase? would be an excellent addition... but there are
also? typ 3 ways to design the? 3 phase supply.? ? What else that needs to be addressed is? ripple at the harmonic freqs,?
like??? 240 hz, and also? 360,? 480, 600 hz, etc.?? IF in the UK,? Japan etc,
then its 100-200-300-400-500-600 hz.? On single phase,? ripple Freq is? just 2
F.?????? On 3 phase, ripple freq is now? 6F, so ripple is at? 360, 720 hz? etc.
? Hopefully, the anomalies? and enhancements?? will materialize.?? If anybody
has other ideas for? PSUD-3,? Duncan can be reached at duncan@...?? or??????
postmaster@...? ? The idea is to get? PSUD-3? to a pro level.?? Its used by a lot of folks (besides hams)? ?world wide, but as is, it has limitations. ? Jim? VE7RF
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