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Bertram Moshier All Messages By This Member #4336 Hi, For my edification, I'm wondering how (if at all) CMS on the z/VM system is different from the VM/370/SP version of CMS. Where can I learn more about it? Thank you, Bertram Moshier?
Martin Scheffler All Messages By This Member #4339 Perhaps you might start here. CMS User's Guide VM/370 Release 6 VM/SP Release 5 z/VM 7.3
Matthew T. Kromer All Messages By This Member #4340 1. XEDIT is a big difference -- having a full screen editor is great 2. REXX nucleus extensions -- I dont THINK VM/370 could load extensions for REXX 3. Fullscreen utilities, e.g. FLIST.? I don't think fullscreen CMS ever caught on though. 4. Shared File System.? Hard to say how useful this is for a single-user system.? Probably not very. I'm sure there are some other big changes that I'm glossing over.? The big enabling change was the DIAG X'58' support for fullscreen commands in CP, which I think happened in VM/SP not VM/370, and that change happened in the early 80s, I think. Modern CMS has more utilities to interoperate in an internet environment, but I'd be hard pressed to say "why CMS" if you tried to figure out today what OS you wanted to use.? I think the most compelling case for VM today is to run hundreds of Linux VMs, but even then I'm not at all convinced of the value proposition.? I certainly can't think of anything that CMS does best relative to what you're used to with Windows, Linux, or MacOS. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:32 AM Bertram Moshier <BertramMoshier@...> wrote: Hi, For my edification, I'm wondering how (if at all) CMS on the z/VM system is different from the VM/370/SP version of CMS. Where can I learn more about it? Thank you, Bertram Moshier?
Dave Wade All Messages By This Member #4342 开云体育 Matthew, Like many other enhancements DIAG58 arrived in the VM/370 extensions packages, SEPP and/or BSEPP as confirmed by ? ? which lists it as a feature included from BSEPP.? So it was available prior to VM/SP but only as a paid-for addition. There was also the EDGAR full screen editor which again was a separate product and which made use of DIAG58. I don’t think it survives. I see VM/SP1 ?and SP2 had EDGAR compatibility code in XEDIT which was removed in SP3… ? ? ? Dave ? ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matthew T. Kromer Sent: 15 October 2022 15:24 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Where can I learn how CMS is different ... ? 1. XEDIT is a big difference -- having a full screen editor is great 2. REXX nucleus extensions -- I dont THINK VM/370 could load extensions for REXX 3. Fullscreen utilities, e.g. FLIST.? I don't think fullscreen CMS ever caught on though. 4. Shared File System.? Hard to say how useful this is for a single-user system.? Probably not very. ? I'm sure there are some other big changes that I'm glossing over.? The big enabling change was the DIAG X'58' support for fullscreen commands in CP, which I think happened in VM/SP not VM/370, and that change happened in the early 80s, I think. ? Modern CMS has more utilities to interoperate in an internet environment, but I'd be hard pressed to say "why CMS" if you tried to figure out today what OS you wanted to use.? I think the most compelling case for VM today is to run hundreds of Linux VMs, but even then I'm not at all convinced of the value proposition.? I certainly can't think of anything that CMS does best relative to what you're used to with Windows, Linux, or MacOS. ? On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:32 AM Bertram Moshier <BertramMoshier@...> wrote: Hi, ? For my edification, I'm wondering how (if at all) CMS on the z/VM system is different from the VM/370/SP version of CMS. Where can I learn more about it? ? Thank you, ? Bertram Moshier?

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