¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a power loss


 

Hi,

My Windows system rebooted on its own (for an update) and VM didn't shutdown.

I'm getting the following on my screen.? I can't remember how to fix this situation.? Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? +ipl 6A1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? * Enable any attached devices. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?HHCPN011I Pausing SCRIPT file processing for 4 seconds... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? HHCCD001I Readahead thread 1 started: tid=000015FC, pid=35664 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? HHCCD001I Readahead thread 2 started: tid=00008710, pid=35664 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VM/370 Community Edition Version ?1 Release ?1.2 07/19/22 13:20:46 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Now 18:24:19 GMT WEDNESDAY 10/26/22 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DMKCPI971I System is Uniprocessor generated ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DMKCPI977I Free Trap Installed ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DMKUDR476I System Directory loaded from volume VM50-1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 18:24:19 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DMKWRM920I NO WARM START DATA; CKPT START FOR RETRY ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 18:24:19 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN): ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/(0009) enable all ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?HHCPN013I EOF reached on SCRIPT file. Processing complete. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):


 

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You need to tell VM what to do as it can¡¯t find warm start data.

So

?

/cold

/force

/ckpt

?

Will do what you want. ?I usually use ¡°/force¡± but I think ¡°/cold¡± is safer but it will lose any spool files.

?

Dave

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bertram Moshier
Sent: 26 October 2022 19:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a power loss

?

Hi,

?

My Windows system rebooted on its own (for an update) and VM didn't shutdown.

?

I'm getting the following on my screen.? I can't remember how to fix this situation.? Any help would be appreciated.

?

Thank you.

?

HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? +ipl 6A1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? * Enable any attached devices. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?HHCPN011I Pausing SCRIPT file processing for 4 seconds... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? HHCCD001I Readahead thread 1 started: tid=000015FC, pid=35664 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? HHCCD001I Readahead thread 2 started: tid=00008710, pid=35664 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VM/370 Community Edition Version ?1 Release ?1.2 07/19/22 13:20:46 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Now 18:24:19 GMT WEDNESDAY 10/26/22 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DMKCPI971I System is Uniprocessor generated ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DMKCPI977I Free Trap Installed ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DMKUDR476I System Directory loaded from volume VM50-1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 18:24:19 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DMKWRM920I NO WARM START DATA; CKPT START FOR RETRY ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 18:24:19 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN): ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/(0009) enable all ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?HHCPN013I EOF reached on SCRIPT file. Processing complete. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):


 

Bertram Moshier wrote:

My Windows system rebooted on its own (for an update)
and VM didn't shutdown.
Did you let it? Or did it reboot on its own without even asking you? Because if it's the latter (rebooted on its own without even asking you) then I would complain to Microsoft! LOUDLY!


I'm getting the following on my screen. I can't remember
how to fix this situation. Any help would be appreciated.
[...]
HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing...
+ipl 6A1
* Enable any attached devices.
HHCPN011I Pausing SCRIPT file processing for 4 seconds...
HHCCD001I Readahead thread 1 started: tid=000015FC, pid=35664
HHCCD001I Readahead thread 2 started: tid=00008710, pid=35664
VM/370 Community Edition Version 1 Release 1.2 07/19/22 13:20:46
Now 18:24:19 GMT WEDNESDAY 10/26/22
DMKCPI971I System is Uniprocessor generated
DMKCPI977I Free Trap Installed
DMKUDR476I System Directory loaded from volume VM50-1
18:24:19
DMKWRM920I NO WARM START DATA; CKPT START FOR RETRY
18:24:19
Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):
HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing...
/(0009) enable all
HHCPN013I EOF reached on SCRIPT file. Processing complete.
Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):
I believe the proper response is "CKPT".

And it looks like VM/CE's startup scripting might need to be adjusted too, to take such an occurrence into account. It looks like it's currently presuming a normal startup, which as you're now experiencing, is not always the case.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


 

Hello,

Thank you to both Fish (David) and Dave for your reply.? I got it up and running with /CKPT

I was trying other stuff (which I need not go into).

Bertram WB8ERT

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:48 PM Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> wrote:
Bertram Moshier wrote:

> My Windows system rebooted on its own (for an update)
> and VM didn't shutdown.

Did you let it? Or did it reboot on its own without even asking you? Because if it's the latter (rebooted on its own without even asking you) then I would complain to Microsoft! LOUDLY!


> I'm getting the following on my screen.? I can't remember
> how to fix this situation.? Any help would be appreciated.
[...]
> HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing...
> +ipl 6A1
> * Enable any attached devices.
> HHCPN011I Pausing SCRIPT file processing for 4 seconds...
> HHCCD001I Readahead thread 1 started: tid=000015FC, pid=35664
> HHCCD001I Readahead thread 2 started: tid=00008710, pid=35664
> VM/370 Community Edition Version? 1 Release? 1.2 07/19/22 13:20:46
> Now 18:24:19 GMT WEDNESDAY 10/26/22
> DMKCPI971I System is Uniprocessor generated
> DMKCPI977I Free Trap Installed
> DMKUDR476I System Directory loaded from volume VM50-1
> 18:24:19
> DMKWRM920I NO WARM START DATA; CKPT START FOR RETRY
> 18:24:19
> Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):
> HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing...
> /(0009) enable all
> HHCPN013I EOF reached on SCRIPT file. Processing complete.
> Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):

I believe the proper response is "CKPT".

And it looks like VM/CE's startup scripting might need to be adjusted too, to take such an occurrence into account. It looks like it's currently presuming a normal startup, which as you're now experiencing, is not always the case.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...










 

Fish wrote:

[...]
And it looks like VM/CE's startup scripting might need to
be adjusted too, to take such an occurrence into account.
It looks like it's currently presuming a normal startup,
which as you're now experiencing, is not always the case.
And in the interest of possibly helping out the VM/CE maintainers, creating a simple 0-length file ("touch foo") upon normal Hercules shutdown/exit might possibly work. Then simply check for the existence of that file in your startup script, and if not found, presume the guest wasn't shutdown gracefully and switch to using a slightly different script instead that would automatically issue the "/ckpt" command. (And of course *deleting* the file before starting Hercules and IPLing your guest each time too! Duh!(*))

(*) (I'm not familiar with how you have your automated scripts designed, but hopefully you get the idea!)

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


 

I'm not one of the Herc mainters, but thank you for the comment to this thread and to them.


On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, 14:12 Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> wrote:
Fish wrote:

[...]
> And it looks like VM/CE's startup scripting might need to
> be adjusted too, to take such an occurrence into account.
> It looks like it's currently presuming a normal startup,
> which as you're now experiencing, is not always the case.

And in the interest of possibly helping out the VM/CE maintainers, creating a simple 0-length file ("touch foo") upon normal Hercules shutdown/exit might possibly work. Then simply check for the existence of that file in your startup script, and if not found, presume the guest wasn't shutdown gracefully and switch to using a slightly different script instead that would automatically issue the "/ckpt" command. (And of course *deleting* the file before starting Hercules and IPLing your guest each time too! Duh!(*))

(*) (I'm not familiar with how you have your automated scripts designed, but hopefully you get the idea!)

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...










 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish
Sent: 26 October 2022 20:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a power
loss

Fish wrote:

[...]
And it looks like VM/CE's startup scripting might need to be adjusted
too, to take such an occurrence into account.
It looks like it's currently presuming a normal startup, which as
you're now experiencing, is not always the case.
And in the interest of possibly helping out the VM/CE maintainers, creating a
simple 0-length file ("touch foo") upon normal Hercules shutdown/exit might
possibly work. Then simply check for the existence of that file in your startup
script, and if not found, presume the guest wasn't shutdown gracefully and
switch to using a slightly different script instead that would automatically issue
the "/ckpt" command. (And of course *deleting* the file before starting Hercules
and IPLing your guest each time too! Duh!(*))
The script starts Hercules with a "START" command and so it never sees a "normal exit".
This doesn't happen very often, and when it does the answer isn't always obvious.
Some might want to try "ckpt" or "force" but it might be these don't work and to recover you must do "cold" which should always work but does lose the spool files which isn't what you want.
Sometimes I think we over-automate things and the best plan is to actually let the operator decide...


(*) (I'm not familiar with how you have your automated scripts designed, but
hopefully you get the idea!)
--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...
Dave Wade


 

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 08:31:57PM +0100, Dave Wade wrote:
-----Original Message-----
The script starts Hercules with a "START" command and so it never sees a "normal exit".
This doesn't happen very often, and when it does the answer isn't always obvious.
Some might want to try "ckpt" or "force" but it might be these don't work and to recover you must do "cold" which should always work but does lose the spool files which isn't what you want.
Sometimes I think we over-automate things and the best plan is to actually let the operator decide...
A good point, but there might also be a document, easily found, that
says: "What to do if...." for this situation for those of us don't have
the experience ( or memory ) of what to do as an operator in this
situation.


B-)


 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian
McCullough
Sent: 26 October 2022 20:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a
power
loss

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 08:31:57PM +0100, Dave Wade wrote:
-----Original Message-----
The script starts Hercules with a "START" command and so it never sees a
"normal exit".
This doesn't happen very often, and when it does the answer isn't always
obvious.
Some might want to try "ckpt" or "force" but it might be these don't
work and
to recover you must do "cold" which should always work but does lose the
spool
files which isn't what you want.
Sometimes I think we over-automate things and the best plan is to
actually let
the operator decide...

A good point, but there might also be a document, easily found, that
says: "What to do if...." for this situation for those of us don't have
the
experience ( or memory ) of what to do as an operator in this situation.
I agree, but to me that's a whole new ball game. I thought about creating a
Wiki on the group web site but is that "easily found"?
Would it go on the web site? Or on GitHub?
For me the when I forget I look in the Operators Manual - which does
explain....
So I am open to suggestions? Where would folks look...



B-)

Dave


 

I love the idea of a WIKI for VM/CE.

I guess we need to find a place to host our own VM/CE Wikipedia.? I found:

? and


We just need three things:

1) Wikipedia software
2) Hosting place
3) People to run, maintain, and update the VM/CE Wiki

Numbers 1 and 2 could be an existing place or one we create.

It would be great if we could host it on VM/CE. :) !





On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:58 PM Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian
> McCullough
> Sent: 26 October 2022 20:36
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [h390-vm] It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a
power
> loss
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 08:31:57PM +0100, Dave Wade wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > The script starts Hercules with a "START" command and so it never sees a
> "normal exit".
> > This doesn't happen very often, and when it does the answer isn't always
> obvious.
> > Some might want to try "ckpt" or "force" but it might be these don't
work and
> to recover you must do "cold" which should always work but does lose the
spool
> files which isn't what you want.
> > Sometimes I think we over-automate things and the best plan is to
actually let
> the operator decide...
>
> A good point, but there might also be a document, easily found, that
> says: "What to do if...." for this situation for those of us don't have
the
> experience ( or memory ) of what to do as an operator in this situation.

I agree, but to me that's a whole new ball game. I thought about creating a
Wiki on the group web site but is that "easily found"?
Would it go on the web site? Or on GitHub?
For me the when I forget I look in the Operators Manual - which does
explain....
So I am open to suggestions? Where would folks look...

>
>
> B-)
>


Dave








 

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There is wiki space on groups.io.

?

/g/h390-vm/wiki

?

I just tweaked the settings so its visible to non-members, members can edit.

?

Dave

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bertram Moshier
Sent: 26 October 2022 21:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a power loss

?

I love the idea of a WIKI for VM/CE.

?

I guess we need to find a place to host our own VM/CE Wikipedia.? I found:

?

? and

?

We just need three things:

?

1) Wikipedia software

2) Hosting place

3) People to run, maintain, and update the VM/CE Wiki

?

Numbers 1 and 2 could be an existing place or one we create.

?

It would be great if we could host it on VM/CE. :) !

?

?

?

?

?

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:58 PM Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian
> McCullough
> Sent: 26 October 2022 20:36
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [h390-vm] It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a
power
> loss
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 08:31:57PM +0100, Dave Wade wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > The script starts Hercules with a "START" command and so it never sees a
> "normal exit".
> > This doesn't happen very often, and when it does the answer isn't always
> obvious.
> > Some might want to try "ckpt" or "force" but it might be these don't
work and
> to recover you must do "cold" which should always work but does lose the
spool
> files which isn't what you want.
> > Sometimes I think we over-automate things and the best plan is to
actually let
> the operator decide...
>
> A good point, but there might also be a document, easily found, that
> says: "What to do if...." for this situation for those of us don't have
the
> experience ( or memory ) of what to do as an operator in this situation.

I agree, but to me that's a whole new ball game. I thought about creating a
Wiki on the group web site but is that "easily found"?
Would it go on the web site? Or on GitHub?
For me the when I forget I look in the Operators Manual - which does
explain....
So I am open to suggestions? Where would folks look...

>
>
> B-)
>


Dave







 

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 01:41 PM, Dave Wade wrote:

You need to tell VM what to do as it can¡¯t find warm start data.

So

?

/cold

/force

/ckpt

?

Will do what you want. ?I usually use ¡°/force¡± but I think ¡°/cold¡± is safer but it will lose any spool files.

?

Dave

I was taught to try, in the following order:
CKPT
FORCE
COLD

Selected from the GC20-1806-9_VM370_Operators_Guide_Rel_6_PLC_17_Apr81.pdf at



Cold Start

Cold start procedures are usually invoked only on operation of a new
version of the VM/370 system or files. as well as accounting records
are lost or because of a hardware error that prevented valid
continuation.

Failures in system component power, building power, hardware logic,
the CP program, or some (rare) kinds of user programs can be classified
as system operating procedure errors; all can require that you start the
system with a cold start. Some of these malfunctions may require you to
issue the SHUTDOWN command. If the SHUTDOWN command cannot be keyed in,
you can press the LOAD button on the System/370 console. Then after the
appearance of the shutdown message, you should press the LOAD button a
second time to reload the system with VM/370. VM/370 issues a message
to you to perform cold start procedures when it recognizes that
unrecoverable errors have occurred.

Warm Start


Warm start implies that the previous VM/370 session ended with an
orderly shutdown procedure. A warm start should be attempted after
VM/370
has abnormally terminated, and after a successful system dump

operation. Begin warm start procedures if yeu are not alerted by
console messages or visual indications that a checkpoint or cold start
is required. Warm start restores previous spool controls and files;
accounting records remain valid and are to te kept as a base for
continuing operations. In many cases, Vft/310 recovers froll system
failures and restarts itself.

Checkpoint Start

If the system could not perform a warm start because of I/O errors or
invalid data in the warm start area, you can request a checkpoint (CKPT)
start. This option attempts to initialize the system using the
information
that has been dynaaically checkpointed during system

operation and stored in the checkpoint area. Spool file chains are
reconstructed; however, the original order of the files is lost.
Accounting and systea message data, recovered under a warm start, is
lost under a checkpoint start~ Ilso, because each spocl buffer aust be
read to reconstruct the record allocation blocks, a checkpoint start
takes longer than a warm start.

Force Start

If the system cannot perform a checkpoint start because of I/O errors or

invalid data in the checkpoint area, you can request a force (PORCE)
start. This option operates like the CKPT start except that any spool
file that contains unreadable or invalid data is dropped from the
system.

When the FORCE option is used, you should not allow any users to log
on to the system. The system should be devoted to reclaiming and
putting out as many spool files as possible. When this has been
accomplished,
the system should be re-initialized using the cold (COLD)

start option.

I Hope This Helps.

?... Mark S.


 

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 04:47 PM, Dave Wade wrote:

I just tweaked the settings so its visible to non-members, members can edit.

?

Dave

Thank you very much!

?... Mark S.


 

You are correct in your order.? CKPT, FORCE, and only then COLD


On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, 22:04 Mark A. Stevens via <marXtevens=[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 01:41 PM, Dave Wade wrote:

You need to tell VM what to do as it can¡¯t find warm start data.

So

?

/cold

/force

/ckpt

?

Will do what you want.? I usually use ¡°/force¡± but I think ¡°/cold¡± is safer but it will lose any spool files.

?

Dave

I was taught to try, in the following order:
CKPT
FORCE
COLD

Selected from the GC20-1806-9_VM370_Operators_Guide_Rel_6_PLC_17_Apr81.pdf at



Cold Start

Cold start procedures are usually invoked only on operation of a new
version of the VM/370 system or files. as well as accounting records
are lost or because of a hardware error that prevented valid
continuation.

Failures in system component power, building power, hardware logic,
the CP program, or some (rare) kinds of user programs can be classified
as system operating procedure errors; all can require that you start the
system with a cold start. Some of these malfunctions may require you to
issue the SHUTDOWN command. If the SHUTDOWN command cannot be keyed in,
you can press the LOAD button on the System/370 console. Then after the
appearance of the shutdown message, you should press the LOAD button a
second time to reload the system with VM/370. VM/370 issues a message
to you to perform cold start procedures when it recognizes that
unrecoverable errors have occurred.

Warm Start


Warm start implies that the previous VM/370 session ended with an
orderly shutdown procedure. A warm start should be attempted after
VM/370
has abnormally terminated, and after a successful system dump

operation. Begin warm start procedures if yeu are not alerted by
console messages or visual indications that a checkpoint or cold start
is required. Warm start restores previous spool controls and files;
accounting records remain valid and are to te kept as a base for
continuing operations. In many cases, Vft/310 recovers froll system
failures and restarts itself.

Checkpoint Start

If the system could not perform a warm start because of I/O errors or
invalid data in the warm start area, you can request a checkpoint (CKPT)
start. This option attempts to initialize the system using the
information
that has been dynaaically checkpointed during system

operation and stored in the checkpoint area. Spool file chains are
reconstructed; however, the original order of the files is lost.
Accounting and systea message data, recovered under a warm start, is
lost under a checkpoint start~ Ilso, because each spocl buffer aust be
read to reconstruct the record allocation blocks, a checkpoint start
takes longer than a warm start.

Force Start

If the system cannot perform a checkpoint start because of I/O errors or

invalid data in the checkpoint area, you can request a force (PORCE)
start. This option operates like the CKPT start except that any spool
file that contains unreadable or invalid data is dropped from the
system.

When the FORCE option is used, you should not allow any users to log
on to the system. The system should be devoted to reclaiming and
putting out as many spool files as possible. When this has been
accomplished,
the system should be re-initialized using the cold (COLD)

start option.

I Hope This Helps.

?... Mark S.


 

On 10/26/22 16:18, Bertram Moshier wrote:
I love the idea of a WIKI for VM/CE.
I guess we need to find a place to host our own VM/CE Wikipedia.? I found:
<>? and
<>
We just need three things:
1) Wikipedia software
2) Hosting place
3) People to run, maintain, and update the VM/CE Wiki
I am willing to host it here, gratis. I'd prefer it not be MediaWiki (the "Wikipedia software" in particular, but I'll do that if that's what people want.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


 

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 05:26 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
I am willing to host it here, gratis. I'd prefer it not be MediaWiki (the "Wikipedia software" in particular, but I'll do that if that's what people want.
groups.io, also has wiki space on groups.io, per Dave Wade.

/g/h390-vm/wiki

I just tweaked the settings so its visible to non-members, members can edit.

Dave

I have recently added to the FAQ, the question about IPL with CKPT, just as another example. We could start there, and look for something else, if it doesn't suit our needs.


?... Mark S.


 

On 10/27/22 19:51, Mark A. Stevens via groups.io wrote:
I am willing to host it here, gratis. I'd prefer it not be MediaWiki
(the "Wikipedia software" in particular, but I'll do that if that's
what people want.
groups.io, also has wiki space on groups.io, per Dave Wade.
/g/h390-vm/wiki
Suit yourself; I was just seeking to avoid further vendor lock-in.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: 27 October 2022 23:27
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a power
loss

On 10/26/22 16:18, Bertram Moshier wrote:
I love the idea of a WIKI for VM/CE.

I guess we need to find a place to host our own VM/CE Wikipedia. I found:


<>
and
<>

We just need three things:

1) Wikipedia software
2) Hosting place
3) People to run, maintain, and update the VM/CE Wiki
I am willing to host it here, gratis. I'd prefer it not be MediaWiki (the
"Wikipedia software" in particular, but I'll do that if that's what people want.
Dave,
Thanks for your offer. Whilst I know we have started to put some things under the groups.io Wiki but I am not sure this is the right place as:-

1. Groups.io is very much a "one man band"
2. I don't see any export or import facility
3. I think it eats into our file allocation.

On the plus side:-

1. I can add additional owners so in the event of me passing there is continuity.

So I am starting a new thread to start a discussion on how we manage continuity and how we can create a path for an orderly transfer of control should..

1. groups.io disappears
2. something happens to the people who currently manage the group..

Dave



-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA





 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: 28 October 2022 01:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] It has been awhile and I forget how to get past a power
loss

On 10/27/22 19:51, Mark A. Stevens via groups.io wrote:
I am willing to host it here, gratis. I'd prefer it not be MediaWiki
(the "Wikipedia software" in particular, but I'll do that if that's
what people want.

groups.io, also has wiki space on groups.io, per Dave Wade.

/g/h390-vm/wiki
Suit yourself; I was just seeking to avoid further vendor lock-in.

Good point - something we need to explore - I am starting a new thread.


-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA





 

Hello,

I'm lost at what is going on.? Windows rebooted and, of course, didn't shutdown VM.? I'm having trouble getting VM/CE to start.? Here is what I'm seeing:

I tried a /start ckpt but all I got back a message saying:? /Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):

HHC01603I ipl 6A1
/
/
/
/VM/370 Community Edition Version? 1 Release? 1.2 07/19/22 13:20:46
/
/Now 19:31:10 GMT SATURDAY 12/17/22
/
/DMKCPI971I System is Uniprocessor generated
/DMKCPI977I Free Trap Installed
/
/DMKUDR476I System Directory loaded from volume VM50-1
/
?/19:31:10
?HHC00009I RRR...RING...GGG!
/
/DMKWRM920I NO WARM START DATA; CKPT START FOR RETRY
/19:31:10
HHC00009I RRR...RING...GGG!
/Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):

At this point I enter:

/start ckpt

and get:
/Start ((Warm|Force|COLD|CKPT) (DRain) (DIsable) (NOAUTOlo)) or (SHUTDOWN):

It is all I get regardless what I try, such ckpt, force, or cold..

Thank you for your help.


Suggestion:? Maybe Hercules could look for Windows shutdowns or restart (like other programs) and then depending upon the OS shut it down properly.? Just a thiought.