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Thoughts regarding remote 3270 support

William Denton All Messages By This Member #6530 Is there a consensus opinion on supporting remote 3270 in VM Community Edition? Should it be supported (as much as possible) at par with local 3270 support? Should it be abandoned and either deleted or stubbed out as deprecated? ? I ask this because I'm working on a pretty major restructure to local 3270 support and noticed that one of the existing updates (HRC101DK) appears to have been abandoned for remote 3270s. A few other local 3270 updates have not even attempted to address remote 3270 support (e.g. MORETIME, Diag8C, etc) ? Thoughts? ? cheers, William
Dave Wade All Messages By This Member #6531 开云体育 On 06/05/2025 21:27, William Denton via groups.io wrote: Is there a consensus opinion on supporting remote 3270 in VM Community Edition? Should it be supported (as much as possible) at par with local 3270 support? Should it be abandoned and either deleted or stubbed out as deprecated? For a long time Hercules didn't support remote 3270s. In fact I have no idea how to support them now, but I think in theory it should be possible to generate and load EP into a 3720 ? I ask this because I'm working on a pretty major restructure to local 3270 support and noticed that one of the existing updates (HRC101DK) appears to have been abandoned for remote 3270s. A few other local 3270 updates have not even attempted to address remote 3270 support (e.g. MORETIME, Diag8C, etc) ? Thoughts? ? It never was good. I wouldn't miss it... cheers, William _._,_._,_ Dave G4UGM
Ross Patterson All Messages By This Member #6532 On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 13:28 William Denton via <williamedenton=[email protected]> wrote: Is there a consensus opinion on supporting remote 3270 in VM Community Edition? Should it be supported (as much as possible) at par with local 3270 support? Should it be abandoned and either deleted or stubbed out as deprecated? Unless someone has an actual bisync controller, or a 3275 or 3276, I don't see the point.? I'm not aware of anything that emulates one, and TN3270 is an excellent alternative for distant emulated 3270s. Ross
Jay Maynard All Messages By This Member #6533 It should be possible to gen and load EP into a 3720 - or the 3705 emulator, as well. There's only one problem: I'm not aware of any copies of EP running around for either platform. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:59?PM Dave Wade via <dave.g4ugm=[email protected]> wrote: On 06/05/2025 21:27, William Denton via wrote: Is there a consensus opinion on supporting remote 3270 in VM Community Edition? Should it be supported (as much as possible) at par with local 3270 support? Should it be abandoned and either deleted or stubbed out as deprecated? For a long time Hercules didn't support remote 3270s. In fact I have no idea how to support them now, but I think in theory it should be possible to generate and load EP into a 3720 ? I ask this because I'm working on a pretty major restructure to local 3270 support and noticed that one of the existing updates (HRC101DK) appears to have been abandoned for remote 3270s. A few other local 3270 updates have not even attempted to address remote 3270 support (e.g. MORETIME, Diag8C, etc) ? Thoughts? ? It never was good. I wouldn't miss it... cheers, William -- Jay Maynard
Gregg Levine All Messages By This Member #6534 Hello! William (and Jay, and Dave), for my efforts, I would sometimes run a Hercules instance supporting the original Two Pack variety of VM 370. And would wow the people in my LUG with doing so, from where ever that event was meeting. In fact, one individual who had an objectionable opinion regarding mainframes and the dino occupants of the big museum here in the City was so surprised, he ended up changing his objectionable one for a good one. So, what all of you do is worth doing it. ----- Gregg Levine hansolofalcon@... "I'm still so smart I amaze even myself.", Han Solo From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jay Maynard via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2025 10:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Thoughts regarding remote 3270 support It should be possible to gen and load EP into a 3720 - or the 3705 emulator, as well. There's only one problem: I'm not aware of any copies of EP running around for either platform. On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:59?PM Dave Wade via <dave.g4ugm=mailto:gmail.com@groupsio> wrote: On 06/05/2025 21:27, William Denton via wrote: Is there a consensus opinion on supporting remote 3270 in VM Community Edition? Should it be supported (as much as possible) at par with local 3270 support? Should it be abandoned and either deleted or stubbed out as deprecated? For a long time Hercules didn't support remote 3270s. In fact I have no idea how to support them now, but I think in theory it should be possible to generate and load EP into a 3720 I ask this because I'm working on a pretty major restructure to local 3270 support and noticed that one of the existing updates (HRC101DK) appears to have been abandoned for remote 3270s. A few other local 3270 updates have not even attempted to address remote 3270 support (e.g. MORETIME, Diag8C, etc) Thoughts? It never was good. I wouldn't miss it... cheers, William -- Jay Maynard "As the two continued to chase separatists across the planet with the Wookiee guide running ahead of them, they all but collided the last three. And in a dead end. They turned to fire their weapons at the three, then there was a loud explosion. And the Wookiee had displayed his bowcaster which was loaded with explosive bolts. And the three lay dead. The Jedi Knight stood there mouthing insults in as many languages spoken in the Republic." From a Timelord's travels through the Old Republic during the Clone Wars, a still unpublished memoir.
Dave Wade All Messages By This Member #6535 开云体育 On 07/05/2025 03:06, Ross Patterson via groups.io wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 13:28 William Denton via <williamedenton=[email protected]> wrote: Is there a consensus opinion on supporting remote 3270 in VM Community Edition? Should it be supported (as much as possible) at par with local 3270 support? Should it be abandoned and either deleted or stubbed out as deprecated? Unless someone has an actual bisync controller, or a 3275 or 3276, I don't see the point.? I'm not aware of anything that emulates one, and TN3270 is an excellent alternative for distant emulated 3270s. Whilst its not Hercules I am sure there are a few folks around with P390's and the 5-pack used to run just fine on mine. I no longer have it, but MCA cards that will run bi-sync are not uncommon, neither are 3174's with comms adaptors that will also run bi-sync. So it is possible to have remote 3270's on CE but I can't see any one doing it except as an act of pure torture.. Ross Dave
Bob Polmanter All Messages By This Member #6536 Is there a consensus opinion on supporting remote 3270 in VM Community Edition? Should it be supported (as much as possible) at par with local 3270 support? Should it be abandoned and either deleted or stubbed out as deprecated? ? I don't see the point either.? Even if it could be made to work, why would anyone want to?? We can define all of the local 3270s we need and then some. ? I am the author of the DIAGNOSE 58, 7C, and 8C modifications that many here are using.? I did not put any support within them for remote 3270s.? I didn't see the need, or any future need.? Further, if someone did have a "remote user" that they wanted to connect to their VM system, they could just define a local 3270 device and let them access it through the internet with an IP and port number, and security considerations, as appropriate. ? However, I dont think it should be deleted. It is part of CP.? Sometimes it is referenced for a "how to do something".? And there is no need to deprecate it.? Simply do not define remote clusters in DMKRIO. ? My thoughts... ? Regards, Bob ?

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