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Re: VM/370 IPL request
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 05:55 AM, M Verpelli wrote:
Would that be, in a world of turkeys, a user mod? That would explain why I have not been able to find any mention of it in the manuals available on bitsaver. You may want to read MAINT MEMO on MAINT 5E5.
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You may also want to read Melinda Varian's "What Mother Never Told You About VM Service (1983)."
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A PDF is here:
/g/h390-vm/files/What%20Mother%20Never%20Told%20You%20About%20VM%20Service%20%281983%29.pdf A text file is here: ?
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Re: VM/370 IPL request
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 10:14 AM, M Verpelli wrote:
could you please explain to a person who knows very little about VM/CMS (that's me, the person!) what in VM/370 CE allows to bypass the change TOD request and the start type warm|ckpt|... ? I believe your problem is related to how you do (or don't) shut down VM. If the warm start data is not saved, then you will get both a TOD and SPOOL question at the next IPL.
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If you have an OPERATOR console open on say 010, enter the command "CP SHUTDOWN" and press enter.
If you don't, then look for your Hercules console, and enter "/CP SHUTDOWN" and press enter. ?
In either case enter the following in the Hercules console. This isn't absolutely necessary, but the MVS guys do it and it doesn't hurt to do it for VM.
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STOPALL
SYSCLEAR
QUIT
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Let me know if this is unclear, or doesn't help.
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Re: VM/370 IPL request
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMarco,yes, logon to maint, do "VMSETUP CP' and "HRCMODS MEMO" lists the user mods for CP. There is a <modnumber> MEMO file for each mod on that disk. "VMSETUP CMS" will get the "HRCMODS MEMO" file accessed. For some reason the CMS memo files are "MEMO <modnumber> F .. actually the CMS way makes more sense Dave On 07/02/2025 11:55, M Verpelli via
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Re: VM/370 IPL request
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 07/02/2025 11:54, Ren¨¦ Ferland via
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That looks correct. Just for info log on to maint, do "VMSETUP CP" and there is a MEMO file for each mod on the "F" disk. Dave |
Re: VM/370 IPL request
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 03:55 AM, M Verpelli wrote:
Would that be, in a world of turkeys, a user mod? If DMKCPI HRC036DK is the guilty party, then yes it is a modification from the Hercules community, like (I believe) everything on MAINT minidisk 094.
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Cheers,
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Rene FERLAND, Montreal |
Re: VM/370 IPL request
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMarco,It will be a CP fix, but I can't figure out which.. Dave On 06/02/2025 16:14, M Verpelli via
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VM/370 IPL request
Hello,
could you please explain to a person who knows very little about VM/CMS (that's me, the person!) what in VM/370 CE allows to bypass the change TOD request and the start type warm|ckpt|... ? If it's too long to write here could you direct me to the right documentation? Thanks ?
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Re: Problem in legacy EDIT in VM/CE 1.1.2
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWilliam,I don't have a definitive answer, but when I put in some of the other Perkins-Elmer modifications I did see it was very tight on addressability. I suspect there is no OVERLAY in EE because its a screen editor annd you just overtype. What are you trying to achieve. Dave On 05/02/2025 22:46, William Denton via
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Re: bREXX Release 1.1.0 now available
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 7:04?PM Mark A. Stevens via <marXtevens=[email protected]> wrote:
Bug #1. I wrote those instructions in Markdown, because my brain was stuck in the mode of improving the .? So every step is number 1. :-( I'll fix that. ?
Bug #2.? I'll check the build process.? Those files should be in the package.? For what it's worth, I tested all these procedures as I was writing them, but I did it with a pre-release package that wasn't built on GitHub.? That's a mistake I won't make again. Ross |
Re: bREXX Release 1.1.0 now available
On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 04:09 PM, Ross Patterson wrote:
Nope :-) ?It needs the GCC 1.0.1 library, same as bTEXX 1.0.1 did.? That's already present on VM/CE 1.1.1 and 1.1.2.? And if you take the "replace the GCCBRX DASD" installation path, it's on that volume too. Pick me to be the confused person here. Including the fact I've put this in a director named for Dave and not Ross. Sorry.
I am running VM/370 CE V 1 R 1.2. Your directions for the DASD replacement start with:
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1. Download the pre-built release `BREXX.zip` file from the location above to the machine where you run Hercules.
1. Unzip `BREXX.zip`. 1. Copy the `gccbrx.cckd` file to the folder where you keep your emulated DASD files.1. Copy the `gccbrx.cckd` file to the folder where you keep your emulated DASD files. 1. Log on to `MAINT` on VM. 1. Upload the `maintc.direct` file to VM, add it to your `USER DIRECT` file, and install the updated directory (but see the VM/CE and SixPack note above). 1. Upload the `newbrexx.exec` file to `MAINT` on VM (typically to the `MAINT 5E5` disk) as `NEWBREXX EXEC`. ?
When I unzipped? REXX.ZIP from your site, I get the following files, and I do not see: maintc.direct nor do I see newbrexx.exec
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[xmas@vm370dev Wade,_Dave]$ unzip BREXX.zip?
Archive: ?BREXX.zip ? ?creating: BREXX/ ? inflating: BREXX/brexxsrc.aws ? ? ? ? inflating: BREXX/brexxbin.vmarc ? ? ? inflating: BREXX/README.md ? ? ? ?? ? inflating: BREXX/changelog.txt ? ?? ? inflating: BREXX/LICENSE ? ? ? ? ?? ? inflating: BREXX/brexxbin.aws ? ? ? ? inflating: BREXX/brexxsrc.vmarc ? ? ? inflating: BREXX/gccbrx.cckd ? ? ?? [xmas@vm370dev Wade,_Dave]$? ?
?... Mark S.
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Re: What major change would justify bumping VM/CE to V2?
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 08:15 PM, William Denton wrote:
Are you speaking to the 1K, 2K, 4K, blocksizes for minidisks? I believe this is being worked on by Martin S. and he is having some success. Still lots to do. The WATERLOO tapes, I have to look to see which ones, have code to help in feeding USER DIRECT changes to DIRMAINT. That would be a starting place. RSCS & Hercules set up for communication with "standard" BiSync out. Would still need directions for setting up the receiving end (NOSEID, TCP port, ...) because not everyone is going to tie to another VM, but maybe MVS or MUSIC, or (horrors!) CDC NOS. XNET 1.5.1 is very much like PVM, as best I can recall PVM. I have it working for connecting 3 VM systems via CTCE & TCP/IP. ?
Some of these are being worked on via the Discord App, Server: Mainframe Enthusiasts. Feel free to join the discussions.
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Re: bREXX Release 1.1.0 now available
On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 03:10 PM, Ross Patterson wrote:
There are no new known bugs and no changes to code since the last beta.? There were some changes to HELP files and documentation. Thank you very much for your work on these challenges. Now if I can squeeze some time from somewhere to install and test.
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?... Mark S. |
Re: bREXX Release 1.1.0 now available
On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 16:36 Dave Wade via <dave.g4ugm=[email protected]> wrote:
Nope :-) ?It needs the GCC 1.0.1 library, same as bTEXX 1.0.1 did.? That's already present on VM/CE 1.1.1 and 1.1.2.? And if you take the "replace the GCCBRX DASD" installation path, it's on that volume too. Ross |
Re: bREXX Release 1.1.0 now available
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýRoss,Thanks for that. Does this need any fixes to the GCC libraries? Dave On 19/01/2025 21:10, Ross Patterson via
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bREXX Release 1.1.0 now available
bREXX Release 1.1.0 for CMS on VM/370 is now available at?.? There are no new known bugs and no changes to code since the last beta.? There were some changes to HELP files and documentation. As noted before, there have been a lot of hands in making bREXX what it is today, mine are merely the most recent. The installation instructions are in the README.md file, and should come as no surprise to folks who've installed bREXX before, or who've suffered through my thousand-line beta emails :-) Ross |
Re: ZORK on VM/370 CE ... POSSIBLE?
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 06:27 AM, Alejandro olivan Alvarez wrote:
The issue was on the ZORK EXEC file. Alejandro,
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Thanks for unearthing the last word in VM games ;-)
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From bistsavers.org
GC20-1818-3_IBM_Virtual_Machine_Facility_370_CMS_Command_and_Macro_Reference_Rel_6_PLC_17_Apr81
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ? fn and ft (filename and filetype) are assumed to be a CMS fi1eid. If fm ? is the filemode of an OS disk, fn and ft are assumed to be the only two | qualifiers of an OS data set name. If fm is specified as an asterisk, | (*) then all disks are searched until a file with matching fn and ft is | found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ?
When I altered the EXEC to allow any filemode, and I tried several, the last one being 'Z' ;-) they all worked.
At the moment. I am going to guess the limitation is in the FORTRAN code, rather than CMS.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ access 196 z '196 B ' RELEASED Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:00:23 zork z FILEDEF * CLEAR FILEDEF 3 DISK ZORK INDEX Z ( RECFM VBS BLKSIZE 800 LRECL 9608 FILEDEF 6 TERM FILEDEF 1 DUMMY FILEDEF 20 DISK ZORK TEXTDATA Z ( RECFM F XTENT 2174 FILEDEF 30 DISK SAVED ZORKGAME A ( RECFM VBS BLKSIZE 800 LRECL 7684 ZORK ? RESTORING FROM FILE ZORK INDEX DMSSVT121S UNSUPPORTED SVC 244 (HEX F4) CALLED FROM 030664. ?Welcome to Dungeon. ? ? ? ? ? ? This version created long, long ago. ?You are in an open field west of a big white house with a boarded ?front door. ?There is a small mailbox here. ?> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ?
?... Mark S.
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