Re: How to clear EREP using CPEREP and sometimes I wish for printed manual again
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 03:29 PM, William Denton wrote:
CPEREP
PRINT=PS? ? this prints a summary and all error details
CLEAR? ? ? ? ? clears the error recording area
I added to my EXEC below and this is what happened. Any suggestions?
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CPEREP02
FILEDEF ACCDEV DISK CPEREP REPORT A
FILEDEF EREPPT PRINTER
CPEREP
THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE UNDEFINED:
?IFCEREP1 IFCMSG01 IFCIOHND IFCEDSUM IFCEEDIT IFCESUMS IFCMES01 IFCPARM1
?IFCPARM2
+++ R(00004) +++
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 19:24:54
Unknown CP/CMS command
Invalid character '=' in fileID 'PRINT=PS MODULE'.
Invalid CMS command
CMS
type cperep02 exec a
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&CONTROL CMS
FILEDEF ACCDEV DISK CPEREP REPORT A
FILEDEF EREPPT PRINTER
&STACK CLEAR
&STACK PRINT=PS
&STACK
CPEREP
&EXIT
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?... Mark S.
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They are probably Monitor files as they are Class M not sure readcard can read them
Oh, of course, monitor files!? Yeah, READCARD won't read those.? You need a program that uses DIAG14 to read them instead.
Ross
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From a previous post¡.. ? Hi Peter,
it took me some time, but eventually I found the MONSTATS program from the 1985 Waterloo Tape at this website:? It takes it's input directly from the reader and prints a nice report of the data collected by the MONITOR command.
Thanks again for pointing me to Waterloo Tapes.
Regards
Ralf? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Daniel L. Srebnick via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2024 10:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Examine RDR Files? q v 00c
RDR ?00C CL M ?NOCONT NOHOLD ? EOF ? ? ?READY
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:46:44
read my file a
READER EMPTY OR NOT READY.
Ready(00008); T=0.01/0.01 17:46:51
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@Dave,
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q v 00c
RDR ?00C CL M ?NOCONT NOHOLD ? EOF ? ? ?READY
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:46:44
read my file a
READER EMPTY OR NOT READY.
Ready(00008); T=0.01/0.01 17:46:51
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RDR was already Class *
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q v 00c
RDR ?00C CL * ?NOCONT NOHOLD ? EOF ? ? ?READY
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:45:00
read my file a
READER EMPTY OR NOT READY.
Ready(00008); T=0.01/0.01 17:45:06
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They are probably Monitor files as they are Class M not sure readcard can read them¡. .. but your reader needs to be class M¡ ? Spool rdr class m ? Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Daniel L. Srebnick via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2024 10:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] Examine RDR Files? Whatever am I doing wrong (or missing) here?? I want to be able to browse the contents of these files. q rdr
OWNERID ?FILE CLASS RECDS ?CPY HOLD
MAINT ? ?0016 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0017 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0018 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0019 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0020 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0021 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0022 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0023 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0024 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0025 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0026 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:35:08
Ready(00003); T=0.01/0.01 17:35:13
order rdr 0026
0001 FILE ?ORDERED Ready(00024); T=0.01/0.01 17:35:27
read my file a1 READER EMPTY OR NOT READY.
Ready(00008); T=0.01/0.01 17:35:31
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Whatever am I doing wrong (or missing) here?? I want to be able to browse the contents of these files.
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... read my file a1
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READER EMPTY OR NOT READY.
Ready(00008); T=0.01/0.01 17:35:31
Your virtual card target at address 00C is set to a class other than * or M.
CP SPOOL RDR CL *
and then repeat the READ command.
Ross
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Whatever am I doing wrong (or missing) here?? I want to be able to browse the contents of these files.
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q rdr
OWNERID ?FILE CLASS RECDS ?CPY HOLD
MAINT ? ?0016 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0017 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0018 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0019 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0020 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0021 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0022 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0023 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0024 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0025 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
MAINT ? ?0026 M PUN 000240 ?01 NONE
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:35:08
Ready(00003); T=0.01/0.01 17:35:13
order rdr 0026
0001 FILE ?ORDERED
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Ready(00024); T=0.01/0.01 17:35:27
read my file a1
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READER EMPTY OR NOT READY.
Ready(00008); T=0.01/0.01 17:35:31
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Re: How to clear EREP using CPEREP and sometimes I wish for printed manual again
I agree?with you about printed manuals.? While I love the search and find features, I find ebooks less functional than printed reference material.?
Bertram Moshier WB8ERT
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024, 15:29 William Denton via <williamedenton= [email protected]> wrote: Don't know whether anyone is still interested in this but here are some more answers...
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2) How do I figure out what is causing my EREP area to fill up so quickly?
? ? The CP error recording area records all device errors seen by CP... things like INTREQ or CMDREJ among others.
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3) How do I expand the EREP area
? ? The CP error recording area is defined by the SYSERR= parameter on the SYSRES macro in DMKSYS
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Here is a little bit more on how to run the CPEREP program
- FILEDEF? ACCDEV DUMMY
This is a necessary definition. In the real world, it would be a tape device where you would accumulate the error info for the CE t to examine
- FILEDEF EREPPT PRINTER
This is where the printed report goes
- CPEREP
PRINT=PS? ? this prints a summary and all error details
CLEAR? ? ? ? ? clears the error recording area
Here are a couple of publications that give more info
(There are other copies out there but they are missing important parts)
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cheers,
William
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Re: How to clear EREP using CPEREP and sometimes I wish for printed manual again
Don't know whether anyone is still interested in this but here are some more answers...
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2) How do I figure out what is causing my EREP area to fill up so quickly?
? ? The CP error recording area records all device errors seen by CP... things like INTREQ or CMDREJ among others.
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3) How do I expand the EREP area
? ? The CP error recording area is defined by the SYSERR= parameter on the SYSRES macro in DMKSYS
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Here is a little bit more on how to run the CPEREP program
- FILEDEF? ACCDEV DUMMY
This is a necessary definition. In the real world, it would be a tape device where you would accumulate the error info for the CE t to examine
- FILEDEF EREPPT PRINTER
This is where the printed report goes
- CPEREP
PRINT=PS? ? this prints a summary and all error details
CLEAR? ? ? ? ? clears the error recording area
Here are a couple of publications that give more info
(There are other copies out there but they are missing important parts)- http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/370/OS_VS/GC28-0772-0_OS_VS_Environmental_Recording_Editing_and_Printing_(EREP)_Program_1st_ed_197701.pdf
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cheers,
William
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Drew Derbyshire wrote: wrote:
Besides, I've done much worse in my time. Very early in my
career, I accidentally destroyed our sysres, and then after
mounting our backup sysres, proceeded to accidentally destroy
that one too! (Oops!)
It took us the entire night shift to completely rebuild it
from scratch. No tape backup? It was so long ago, I can't recall why we didn't, no. I do recall that we did do full volume stand-alone IPLable "Fast Copy?" backups of sysres (and made a Ditto copy of it afterwards, as well as a few other critical tapes too, which we kept hanging on a small tape rack in the machine room) which were then physically walked down the street to Bank by the Data Control department where had several rented Safety Deposit boxes, but I can't recall whether that procedure was in place at the time of my incident. I don't think it was because it would have made recovering a lot faster and easier. That procedure might have been begun *afterwards* BECAUSE of my incident. I'm thinking that at the time they felt just having a simple 3330 disk pack copy in the machine room that you could quickly swap out was good enough. Hind sight is always 20/20, isn't it? :) In ~ 1984, a friend related that at a previous job he likewise
clobbered both sysres and its backup disk. He calmly told the
operator to get the last night's backup. The operator told him
that backups were taking too long, so the night shift had stopped
running them. That is when the sweating started (and a similar
rebuild from scratch was done). (Ouch!) That story in turn reminds me that when I reorganized user packs
with FDR, Yes! I think that's what we used too! (I think?) I did it after backups (which wrote two copies to different 9 track
tapes) I think we just made ditto copies? and then had the FDR reorg program write two more tapes. I wasn't
gonna lose a pack because of laziness.
All this explains why at 2:39 AM every morning, my Hercules host
dumps my emulated systems via tar. It does a differential backup
nightly and a full 24 GB dump weekly. I only do Fulls monthly. Daily differentials and monthly fulls. And before Microsoft dropped support for Windows 7, I'd do my fulls *before* applying my monthly patches. They go to a 1 TB Micro SD card, which is good for a ~year of monthly
backups. (It prunes the weekly backups after 90 days). I've got ... (me, checks) ... Yep! A year's worth of backups too. It's not trivial to get a single file off the backup, but I've done
it. What product do you use? I myself use a product called "Macrium Reflect" () and restoring individual files or an entire volume is a piece of cake. It amazes me how many people don't bother backing up their system. Fools. Each and every one of them. -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 04:04 PM, Bob Polmanter wrote:
So, are you saying it is working while disconnected after all?? It sure looks like it from the console messages.
With the PROFILE EXEC i altered (see prior email), I can autolog XNET and it behaves properly.
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?... Mark S.
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 04:06 PM, Bob Polmanter wrote:
You can't logon to the virtual machine that is hosting the logical devices.? Thus, you cannot logon to XNET from an XNET created logical device session.? This is not an XNET restriction, this is the rules of LDF (the logical device facility).
I can't read or type, it seems. XNETL is not XNET.? I went back and was able to log on from a CUU device.
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?... Mark S.
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Mark,
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I tried to log on to XNET and was not allowed. This is the same for both VM370DEV and VM370P01.
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L XNETL XNET
ENTER PASSWORD:
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DMKLOG066E CANNOT CONNECT TO HOST VIRTUAL MACHINE
ENTER PASSWORD:
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DMKLOG066E CANNOT CONNECT TO HOST VIRTUAL MACHINE
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You can't logon to the virtual machine that is hosting the logical devices.? Thus, you cannot logon to XNET from an XNET created logical device session.? This is not an XNET restriction, this is the rules of LDF (the logical device facility).
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Regards,
Bob
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Mark,
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So, are you saying it is working while disconnected after all?? It sure looks like it from the console messages.
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Regards,
Bob
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 07:36 AM, Bob Polmanter wrote:
You could also start spooling the XNET console log (in its profile exec) so that when it is autologged everything will be recorded; if it fails to work then you can go back and look at that log and see what the messaging says.
I forced and autologged both VMs. I was able to transfer the console file to MAINT and look at it. This one is from VM370DEV:
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?--- OK ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?ID=0678 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LINE=000001 OF 000022 CASE=U
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
XNET010 Cross System Net - V1.4.0 ? 07/15/22 10.42 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET002 XNET using configuration file XMASVMCE CONFIG ? * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
XNET020 VM370DEV active ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
XNET016 CTCA 500 initialization in progress... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET017 CTCA 500 is X-side ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET019 CTCA 500 connected to node VM370P01 (NETID= ?2) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
XNET020 VM370P01 active ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
XNET012 Device 0C8 connected ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET028 GRAF 0C8 associated with VM370P01 L000 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET021 LDEV L000 associated with VM370P01 0C8 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET029 GRAF 0C8 disassociated with VM370P01 L000 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
XNET013 Device 0C8 disconnected ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
XNET015 LDEV L000 disassociated with VM370P01 0C8 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
14:08:05 ?MSG FROM MAINT ? : ?D NODES ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
#CP DISCONN ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
DISCONNECT AT 14:09:09 CST SUNDAY 08/18/24 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET012 Device 0C8 connected ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET028 GRAF 0C8 associated with VM370P01 L000 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
XNET021 LDEV L000 associated with VM370P01 0C8 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
CONNECT= 00:23:05 VIRTCPU= 000:00.22 TOTCPU= 000:00.94 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
LOGOFF AT 14:15:49 CST SUNDAY 08/18/24 BY SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
* * * ?END OF FILE ?* * * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
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With the previously shown PROFILE EXEC, and the VM autologged. I could successfully DIAL XNET and log on to the other host!
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I probably have too many SETs such as SMSG in the EXEC, but I will leave it sit for a bit, and also shutdown and IPL to see how that goes.
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?... Mark S.
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 07:36 AM, Bob Polmanter wrote:
Even if you autologged it and it is running disconnected, you can log on to it later and issue D TASKS and see if the CTCs are connected.
With the previously mentioned PROFILE EXECs in place, I disconnected both VMs and then was actually able to DIAL and LOGON to the alternate system!
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I tried to log on to XNET and was not allowed. This is the same for both VM370DEV and VM370P01.
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L XNETL XNET
ENTER PASSWORD:
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DMKLOG066E CANNOT CONNECT TO HOST VIRTUAL MACHINE
ENTER PASSWORD:
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DMKLOG066E CANNOT CONNECT TO HOST VIRTUAL MACHINE
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?... Mark S.
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 07:36 AM, Bob Polmanter wrote:
I've never tried to run it disconnected, or autologged.? I don't see any reason why you couldn't, except to say that if the CTC's don't connect for some reason you wouldn't know about it.? I suspect that is the problem here.
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I figured running disconnected would be fine, once I got done debugging the connections. The following is the VM370DEV PROFILE EXEC A. I thought it might be helpful to know the status after the program started, but I guess it clears the stack, so the XNET commands are not processed. See console screen results below.
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FSVIEW: PROFILE EXEC C1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Lines 1-11/11 V80[1-79] ?FSVIEW V1.2.5
&CONTROL OFF
CP SPOOL CONSOLE START CONT TERM TO * CLASS X
CP SET MSG ?ON
CP SET SMSG ON
CP SET EMSG ON
CP SET IMSG ON
CP SET RUN ?ON
&STACK FIFO D TASKS
&STACK FIFO D NODES
&STACK FIFO M VM370P01 We are up and running.
XNET XMASVMCE
The following is the VM370P01 PROFILE EXEC A (I changed the node name and SYSID to not contain special characters):
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FSVIEW: PROFILE EXEC C1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Lines 1-11/11 V80[1-79] ?FSVIEW V1.2.5
&CONTROL OFF
CP SPOOL CONSOLE START CONT TERM TO * CLASS X
CP SET MSG ?ON
CP SET SMSG ON
CP SET EMSG ON
CP SET IMSG ON
CP SET RUN ?ON
&STACK FIFO D TASKS
&STACK FIFO D NODES
&STACK FIFO M VM370DEV We are up and running.
XNET XMASVMCE
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VM370DEV Console
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L XNET
ENTER PASSWORD:
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DMKLOG090E DEV 09E NOT DEFINED; DEV 09E NOT AVAILABLE
DMKLOG090E DEV 09F NOT DEFINED; DEV 09F NOT AVAILABLE
LOGMSG - 18:48:00 CST SATURDAY 08/17/24
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* ? ? ? ? ? ?WELCOME TO THE VM/370 DEVELOPMENT (VM370DEV) SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ? *
*
LOGON AT 13:52:43 CST SUNDAY 08/18/24
VM Community Edition V1 R1.2
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Y (19E) R/O
Segment GCCLIB is not loaded because virtual machine memory is in use.
U (19D) R/O
XNET010 Cross System Net - V1.4.0 ? 07/15/22 10.42
XNET002 XNET using configuration file XMASVMCE CONFIG ? *
XNET020 VM370DEV active
XNET016 CTCA 500 initialization in progress...
XNET017 CTCA 500 is X-side
XNET019 CTCA 500 connected to node VM370P01 (NETID= ?2)
XNET020 VM370P01 active
XNET012 Device 0C8 connected
XNET028 GRAF 0C8 associated with VM370P01 L000
XNET021 LDEV L000 associated with VM370P01 0C8
XNET029 GRAF 0C8 disassociated with VM370P01 L000
XNET013 Device 0C8 disconnected
XNET015 LDEV L000 disassociated with VM370P01 0C8
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VM370P01 Console
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L XNET
ENTER PASSWORD:
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DMKLOG090E DEV 09E NOT DEFINED; DEV 09E NOT AVAILABLE
DMKLOG090E DEV 09F NOT DEFINED; DEV 09F NOT AVAILABLE
LOGMSG - 18:49:48 CST SATURDAY 08/17/24
*
* ? ? ? ? ? ?WELCOME TO THE VM/370 PRODUCTION (VM370P01) SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ? ?*
*
LOGON AT 13:52:39 CST SUNDAY 08/18/24
VM Community Edition V1 R1.2
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Y (19E) R/O
Segment GCCLIB is not loaded because virtual machine memory is in use.
U (19D) R/O
XNET010 Cross System Net - V1.4.0 ? 07/15/22 10.42
XNET002 XNET using configuration file XMASVMCE CONFIG ? *
XNET020 VM370P01 active
XNET016 CTCA 500 initialization in progress...
XNET017 CTCA 500 is Y-side
XNET019 CTCA 500 connected to node VM370DEV (NETID= ?1)
XNET020 VM370DEV active
XNET012 Device 0C8 connected
XNET021 LDEV L000 associated with VM370DEV 0C8
XNET028 GRAF 0C8 associated with VM370DEV L000
XNET015 LDEV L000 disassociated with VM370DEV 0C8
XNET029 GRAF 0C8 disassociated with VM370DEV L000
XNET013 Device 0C8 disconnected
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I also decided to make use of LOGMSG so I knew what system I was connecting to.
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?... Mark S.
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 10:28 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
Besides, I've done much worse in my time. Very early in my career, I accidentally destroyed our sysres, and then after mounting our backup sysres, proceeded to accidentally destroy that one too! (Oops!)
It took us the entire night shift to completely rebuild it from scratch.
No tape backup?
?
In ~ 1984, a friend related that at a previous job he likewise clobbered both sysres and its backup disk. He calmly told the operator to get the last night's backup. The operator told him that backups were taking too long, so the night shift had stopped running them. That is when the sweating started (and a similar rebuild from scratch was done).?
That story in turn reminds me that when I reorganized user packs with FDR, I did it after backups (which wrote two copies to different 9 track tapes) and than had the FDR reorg program write two more tapes. I wasn't gonna lose a pack because of laziness.
?
All this explains why at 2:39 AM every morning, my Hercules host dumps my emulated systems via tar. It does a differential backup nightly and a full 24 GB dump weekly. They go to a 1 TB Micro SD card, which is good for a ~ year of monthly backups. (It prunes the weekly backups after 90 days).? It's not trivial to get a single file off the backup, but I've done it.
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-ahd-
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Mark,
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I've never tried to run it disconnected, or autologged.? I don't see any reason why you couldn't, except to say that if the CTC's don't connect for some reason you wouldn't know about it.? I suspect that is the problem here.
?
Even if you autologged it and it is running disconnected, you can log on to it later and issue D TASKS and see if the CTCs are connected.
?
You could also start spooling the XNET console log (in its profile exec) so that when it is autologged everything will be recorded; if it fails to work then you can go back and look at that log and see what the messaging says.
?
Regards,
Bob
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Mark A. Stevens