Re: I need to download VM-CE 1.2 again and can't remember or find its location.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 09:29 AM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Also, how does one go from the 4.4.1 version of Hercules to the 4.7 using the file structure found in the above-downloaded page?
For Windows and Linux there is a helper script that will install 4.7 and all necessary support programs, which can be found at:
It runs on all kinds of versions of Linux and Windows, and even, (cough ;-) ) MacOS. If it doesn't work, or you have problems the owner/maintainer is VERY helpful.
?... Mark S.
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Re: DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 05:02 PM, Ross Patterson wrote:
I"m getting an error trying to run the DIFF MODULE on the Y-disk,
I would recommend XCOMPARE. Lots of options for the way output is displayed from console to an UPDATE file to a listing. ?... Mark S.
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Re: DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 07:42 PM, Matthew T. Kromer wrote:
I don¡¯t have any idea how CMS emulates GETMAIN storage pools to know if there¡¯s a big enough storage pool allocated. ?I¡¯d look in the CMS manuals for help because you probably have to tailor the pool before running the command using it.
CMS GETMAIN starts after the end of the loaded module and works its way to high memory stopping at the loader tables. How much it grabs is a function of the actual request, and it returns an error if there isn't enough memory to satisfy the request. I don't remember if that is an abend, or just an error return. ?... Mark S.
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Re: DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 01:04 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
I will say this is part of VM/380 so perhaps it only works in VM/380 and needs a machine in 31-bit mode to run
I thought so too but, actually, it works on VM/370 CE provided the virtual machine has the "right" amount of storage. I tried on CMSUSER with storage = 15M and the error message disappears (my previous failed attempt had CMSUSER with storage = 8M). I only checked on small files. Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
Joe, Well it worked for me on a couple of small files. Possibly ?just running out of memory. These ports of UNIX utilities all seem half baked to me. They do what Paul needs to build GCC but when you let them loose in other situations they may not work as expected. Dave ?
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Subject: Re: [h390-vm] DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF? Paul Edwards says the code looks fine to him. ? Ross, I will say this is part of VM/380 so perhaps it only works in VM/380 and needs a machine in 31-bit mode to run. Why not use compare? Dave ? ? I"m getting an error trying to run the DIFF MODULE on the Y-disk, and I could use some help figuring out what's wrong.? The error is DMSSMN109S VIRTUAL STORAGE CAPACITY EXCEEDED, but it doesn't matter how big I make the machine, it's always the same.? The error is coming from an OS GETMAIN SVC (SVC 10) call in what I think is the C runtime library.? It appears to be in the early setup of?@@CRT0, which reads: L12? ? ? STM? ?14,12,12(13) ? ? ? ? ?DC? ? A(X'1F534') That 1F534 pointer points to a bunch of words of all zeroes.? This whole thing looks screwy?to me.? Any ideas what's up?
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Re: DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
Paul Edwards says the code looks fine to him.
Joe
Ross, I will say this is part of VM/380 so perhaps it only works in VM/380 and needs a machine in 31-bit mode to run. Why not use compare? Dave ? ? I"m getting an error trying to run the DIFF MODULE on the Y-disk, and I could use some help figuring out what's wrong.? The error is DMSSMN109S VIRTUAL STORAGE CAPACITY EXCEEDED, but it doesn't matter how big I make the machine, it's always the same.? The error is coming from an OS GETMAIN SVC (SVC 10) call in what I think is the C runtime library.? It appears to be in the early setup of?@@CRT0, which reads: L12? ? ? STM? ?14,12,12(13) ? ? ? ? ?DC? ? A(X'1F534') That 1F534 pointer points to a bunch of words of all zeroes.? This whole thing looks screwy?to me.? Any ideas what's up?
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Re: DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
Ross, I will say this is part of VM/380 so perhaps it only works in VM/380 and needs a machine in 31-bit mode to run. Why not use compare? Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ross Patterson
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:02 PM
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Subject: [h390-vm] DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF? I"m getting an error trying to run the DIFF MODULE on the Y-disk, and I could use some help figuring out what's wrong.? The error is DMSSMN109S VIRTUAL STORAGE CAPACITY EXCEEDED, but it doesn't matter how big I make the machine, it's always the same.? The error is coming from an OS GETMAIN SVC (SVC 10) call in what I think is the C runtime library.? It appears to be in the early setup of?@@CRT0, which reads: L12? ? ? STM? ?14,12,12(13) ? ? ? ? ?DC? ? A(X'1F534') That 1F534 pointer points to a bunch of words of all zeroes.? This whole thing looks screwy?to me.? Any ideas what's up?
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Re: I need to download VM-CE 1.2 again and can't remember or find its location.
Hello Rene,
Thank you so much
Bertram Moshier WB8ERT
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 08:19 AM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Maybe I'm not following.? I tried looking under files but didn't find it.
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Got to??select the VM/370 tab, then the "VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2" link, and scroll down the page to see the link to the ZIP file:
Cheers,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 03:02 PM, Ross Patterson wrote:
The error is DMSSMN109S VIRTUAL STORAGE CAPACITY EXCEEDED,
This appears to be a very old bug, already present in the VM/370 Sixpack 1.2 of 2010, a testament to how much this command is used. :-) Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
1F534 should be the number of bytes it¡¯s trying to allocate. The only thing screwy to me is the first instruction because I don¡¯t get the padding around the entry symbol name plus the B to equal 12 but the assembler is probably aligning the next instruction by a rule I don¡¯t remember.?
I don¡¯t have any idea how CMS emulates GETMAIN storage pools to know if there¡¯s a big enough storage pool allocated. ?I¡¯d look in the CMS manuals for help because you probably have to tailor the pool before running the command using it.
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On Mar 12, 2024, at 6:02?PM, Ross Patterson <ross.patterson@...> wrote:
? I"m getting an error trying to run the DIFF MODULE on the Y-disk, and I could use some help figuring out what's wrong.? The error is DMSSMN109S VIRTUAL STORAGE CAPACITY EXCEEDED, but it doesn't matter how big I make the machine, it's always the same.? The error is coming from an OS GETMAIN SVC (SVC 10) call in what I think is the C runtime library.? It appears to be in the early setup of?@@CRT0, which reads:
L0? ? ? ?B? ? ?12(,15) ? ? ? ? ?DC? ? C'@@CRT0' L12? ? ? STM? ?14,12,12(13) ? ? ? ? ?LR? ? 10,15 ? ? ? ? ?LR? ? 11,1 ? ? ? ? ?LR? ? 8,0 ? ? ? ? ?LR? ? 9,13 ? ? ? ? ?BAL? ?R1,L32 ? ? ? ? ?DC? ? A(X'1F534') L32? ? ? L? ? ?0,0(,1) ? ? ? ? ?SVC? ?10
That 1F534 pointer points to a bunch of words of all zeroes.? This whole thing looks screwy?to me.? Any ideas what's up?
Ross
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DMSSMN109S in @@CRT0 running DIFF
I"m getting an error trying to run the DIFF MODULE on the Y-disk, and I could use some help figuring out what's wrong.? The error is DMSSMN109S VIRTUAL STORAGE CAPACITY EXCEEDED, but it doesn't matter how big I make the machine, it's always the same.? The error is coming from an OS GETMAIN SVC (SVC 10) call in what I think is the C runtime library.? It appears to be in the early setup of?@@CRT0, which reads:
L0? ? ? ?B? ? ?12(,15) ? ? ? ? ?DC? ? C'@@CRT0' L12? ? ? STM? ?14,12,12(13) ? ? ? ? ?LR? ? 10,15 ? ? ? ? ?LR? ? 11,1 ? ? ? ? ?LR? ? 8,0 ? ? ? ? ?LR? ? 9,13 ? ? ? ? ?BAL? ?R1,L32 ? ? ? ? ?DC? ? A(X'1F534') L32? ? ? L? ? ?0,0(,1) ? ? ? ? ?SVC? ?10
That 1F534 pointer points to a bunch of words of all zeroes.? This whole thing looks screwy?to me.? Any ideas what's up?
Ross
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Re: I need to download VM-CE 1.2 again and can't remember or find its location.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 08:19 AM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Maybe I'm not following.? I tried looking under files but didn't find it.
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Got to??select the VM/370 tab, then the "VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2" link, and scroll down the page to see the link to the ZIP file: Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: I need to download VM-CE 1.2 again and can't remember or find its location.
Hello Mark,
I tried your idea, as the group you're recommending (I think) is this group. I did a CTRL-F, and all I found was a list of hashtags with VM Community Edition.? Maybe I'm not following.? I tried looking under files but didn't find it.
Thank you for your reply,
?Bert
Hi, Bertram,
I used to have the same issue, until I found this.
If you visit the home page of this e-mail group H390-VM at -- here:
? ?/g/h390-vm??
on that page you will find a link to the "VM Community Edition" web site and on that page you can drill down to find all of the available versions.
I hope that helps,
Mark S. Waterbury
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Re: I need to download VM-CE 1.2 again and can't remember or find its location.
Hi, Bertram, I used to have the same issue, until I found this. If you visit the home page of this e-mail group H390-VM at groups.io -- here: ? ? /g/h390-vm?? on that page you will find a link to the "VM Community Edition" web site and on that page you can drill down to find all of the available versions. I hope that helps, Mark S. Waterbury
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I need to download VM-CE 1.2 again and can't remember or find its location.
Hello,
The subject says it all.??I need to download VM-CE 1.2 again and can't remember or find its location.
Also, how does one go from the 4.4.1 version of Hercules to the 4.7 using the file structure found in the above-downloaded page?
I'm trying to get five Dell systems (from a 5775 laptop to a Precision T7920) to run VM-CE and connect using both RSCS and the VM Backup program I'm working on.
Thank you,?
Bertram Moshier
WB8ERT
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Re: Operator userid and define storage
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 08:28 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
While logged into operator (on a 3270), I did a "cp define storage 15M," and the userid hung.
Type the command: cp term mode cp before typing "cp define storage 15m".? After the define command, the operator virtual machine is at CP level. If you want the Ready prompt again, you need to ipl cms. Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Operator userid and define storage
Hello,
While logged into operator (on a 3270), I did a "cp define storage 15M," and the userid hung.? I had to force it from maint.? I tried this several times but never got the message about disabled PSW.? In all cases, the userid hung at the? CP level.? NOTE: I tried other storage sizes (e.g., 3-14M) with the same result.
I tried this on Maint and didn't have any problems.
I changed the login storage size to 6M in the user direct?file and updated the live directory.? I logged into the operator?username at 6M, but the same problem occurred when doing a cp define storage?(3-15M) command.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Bertram Moshier WB8ERT
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Re: Help needed to write test data to 3390 track
(Oops!) Sorry about the blank subject line, folks!
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Fish" (David B. Trout) [mailto:david.b.trout@...]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 6:57 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Cc: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
Subject:
(CC: H390-MVS, H390-VM)
I'm posting this question to the main Hercules group, but am also cross-
posting it to H390-MVS and H390-VM too in the hope that someone on one of
these groups will be able to help me.
Basically I need to create some dummy data in a very specific format on a
3390 test volume, and I'd rather not have to manually write a program to
do it, since it's a one-time-shot kind of deal. That is to say, once done,
I'll probably never need to do it again.
Here's the gist of it:
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1951898214
I need to write 2 tracks worth of data. The first track needs to have 12
records, with each record being 4K (4096 bytes) in size. The second track
needs to have less than 12 records (say, only 3 records) on it, each one
also being 4K (4096 bytes) in size.
Does z/OS or z/VM, etc. have any type of existing utility/tool to do this
for me? Some kind of test data generator or "dataset" initialization tool
maybe? Can is possibly be done with a simple Rexx script maybe?
HELP!
Thanks.
--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
mail: fish@...
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Re: How Big/Long is a CMS Module
Bernd,
IIRC, the parameters were also inserted into the OS parameter string with there current length only,
not always with length 8 ... thus minimizing the overall length of the resulting? OS parameter string.
... ???????? MVC?? 0(8,R2),0(R3)??????? INSERT TOKEN IN PARM FIELD???????? ????????? LA??? R2,8(,R2)??????????? POINT PAST TOKEN?????????????????? ?SCNTOKEN DS??? 0H????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????? BCTR? R2,0???????????????? POINT BACK ONE TOKEN CHARACTER???? ????????? CLI?? 0(R2),C' '?????????? IS THIS A TRAILING BLANK ????????? ????????? BE??? SCNTOKEN???????????? YES??????????????????????????????? ????????? LA??? R2,1(,R2)??????????? POINT PAST END OF TOKEN??????????? ????????? MVI?? 0(R2),C' '?????????? OPP: insert blank after token????? ????????? LA??? R2,1(,R2)??????????? OPP: to seperate tokens / 10.2016? ????????? B???? SKPTOKEN???????????????????????????????????????????????? ... You are correct. ?... Mark S.
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Re: How Big/Long is a CMS Module
On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 05:56 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
This is done in my version of XRUNPARM, too.
I guess I did not state it well. That is was I meant. If it gets added to RUNPARM, then you would have one less program to maintain. ?... Mark S.
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Mark A. Stevens
Ren¨¦ Ferland