Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
wrote: Yes, but... Indeed. Only once in my life did I run on a real machine with 16 MB.. That was a 168MP at an IBM s
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Tony Harminc
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#5407
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
Ross Patterson wrote: Ah. I wasn't familiar with that title. I've heard of CE (Customer Engineer) and SE (Systems Engineer), but not SRE. Thanks. Cool! Thanks for the education. Appreciated. So I
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Fish Fish
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
In assuming Drew, like me later in my career, was called a "Site Reliability Engineer". As to VMer, well, I spent 20 years or so working on VM/CMS systems, and once led the VM activities at SHARE.
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Ross Patterson
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
I'm curious: what's an "SRE" or "VMER"? :) -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Guru Emeritus
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Fish Fish
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
wrote: That was true up to a point. FORTRAN IV, as you note, had F, G, and H versions, which differed both in function and in required memory (and in overlay structure - remember overlays?). But after
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Ross Patterson
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
Remember, the suffixes for various products is not based on function level but how much (real) memory it needed; this was an era when the IBM S/360 65 maxed out at 1 MB core of fast core.? Even the
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Drew Derbyshire
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
I would like to second Eddy Balem's plug of Harold Grovesteen's most excellent SATK/ASMA product: * https://github.com/s390guy/SATK As Harold already knows, I'm his biggest fan. It's a *very* nice,
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Fish Fish
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
Can't forget what I didn't know. Thank you very much. I will add it to the ever growing list of things-to-do. ... Mark S.
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Mark A. Stevens
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
I've been 'collecting' various 'versions' to see what is different, as the very first version I got, from a CBT tape some years ago, differs from what is out there now. ... Mark S.
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Mark A. Stevens
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
Thank you very much for the history lesson. I read somewhere that G was written because of limitations in F, but I don't remember what those all were. Installing G on VM/370 is necessarily needed, but
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Mark A. Stevens
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
I believe it would from the code I have been living with. There are modules that support the following instruction sets This is why I have been trying to get this installed, as I believe it could be
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Mark A. Stevens
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
I would add, regarding ASMA, that the .OBJ object code generated is (in my experience) 100% compatible with IBM object decks, except that it does not include RLD information. This means it should be
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eddy_balem@...
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
I hadn't realized that IBM rewrote F into XF while H was already available. Interesting. Would it be feasible to expand G into full H compatibility? AIUI, H started out as IBM's version of G...
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Jay Maynard
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
And do not forget the assembler that comes with SATK, also called ASMA it appears. https://github.com/s390guy/SATK The SATK ASMA manual is at the doc/asma/ASMA.pdf in the github repository. The syntax
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Harold Grovesteen
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
Mark, To echo what Tony says, F and XF are different beasts. Basically, F was I think the pre MVS OS assembler, XF was distributed with MVS, VM and DOS. I have never seen ¡°F¡± on VM. I am sure I
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Dave Wade
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Re: VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
[email protected]> wrote: Assembler F and XF are indeed completely different programs. For whatever reasons, IBM appears to have written XF to the same specs as F, but from scratch. There are a
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Tony Harminc
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VM/370 CE Assembler F, Assembler XF
I am still trying, as I can find time, to get Assembler G installed on VM/370. I've run into an EXEC that mentions Assembler F as separate from Assembler XF. Is that true/possible? I only find
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Mark A. Stevens
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Re: VM37CE, Hercules and Windows 11
Dave's right - if you want to preserve your SPOOL files (which can sometimes be recovered by a checkpoint start), and avoid the start prompt, don't just close Hercules. Instead, issue a /SHUTDOWN
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Ross Patterson
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Re: VM37CE, Hercules and Windows 11
wrote: OK, so here's some more explanation of the magic :-) /18:32:35 AUTO LOGON *** OPERATOR USERS = 001 BY SYSTEM > > Once the SPOOL has been recovered or cleared, the system operator userid
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Ross Patterson
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Re: VM37CE, Hercules and Windows 11
Steve, Normally it would come up on its own. The reason you are seeing this is because it hasn¡¯t been shutdown properly, because you have had issues bringing it up in the past. Dave Sent: Monday,
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Dave Wade
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