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Re: DDR to different VOLSER

 

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You don¡¯t need clip on VM. The provided Format/Allocate program allows you to change the label.

Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Monk
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2024 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] DDR to different VOLSER

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File 846

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On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 8:07?PM Joe Monk via <joemonk64=[email protected]> wrote:

CLIP is your friend.

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Joe

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On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 7:56?PM Matthew T. Kromer <zerohero0h@...> wrote:

Don¡¯t you have to skip Track 0?? The VOLSER should be on track 0 record 0.

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On Jan 26, 2024, at 8:17?PM, Daniel L. Srebnick via <dan=[email protected]> wrote:

?I want to duplicate some DASD but change the VOLSER to avoid conflicts.

I've tried various permutations of DDR going from DASD to DASD as well as DASD to TAPE to DASD and cannot seem to accomplish my objective.? I always end up with the backup copy overwriting the VOLSER on the target to the original contents.

What am I missing?

Re: DDR to different VOLSER

 

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 21:48, Daniel L. Srebnick via <dan=[email protected]> wrote:
How does one process an XMI file on VM/CMS (as opposed to MVS)?

Perhaps easiest is by first un-XMITing it on Windows or UNIX using one of the programs at ? or .

On "modern" (i.e. VM/SP and above from 1981 or so) CMS there is native support for the XMIT format. I would guess that something like that has been put into VM/CE, but I haven't used that VM so am not sure. (I *think* you're using VM/CE here...)

But in any case... As far as I can see the CLIP in CBT file 846 runs on z/OS (or maybe older MVS) only.

Another choice is to use the standalone (IPLable) editor at .
ZZSA has many other uses. It's "free as in free beer", i.e. not open source, and is also a bit fiddly to install. I'm not sure if there is a 370Arch version.

There is also IBM's ICKDSF, which is much more modern than VM/370, and IIRC was a no-fee program product that runs on pretty much all IBM OSs. It's around somewhere, but I'm not sure where. Someone will tell you.

And finally the "right" way is that VM/370 has a native program DMKFMT to change a volser and do other related stuff. Note that it's not a CMS command. It's described in the VM/370 Service Programs chapter of the VM/370 Operators Guide.The VM/370 version of DMKFMT is a standalone IPLable card deck/image that you IPL in (typically) a virtual machine or (less often in the real world, but commonly enough on Hercules) a "real" machine.

You want to use the FORMAT command with the LABEL option. Unfortunately the FORMAT command can also format a disk, so read up on the syntax carefully, and make 200% sure you are labelling the right disk!

Tony H.
Re: DDR to different VOLSER

 

How does one process an XMI file on VM/CMS (as opposed to MVS)?
Re: DDR to different VOLSER

 

File 846



Joe

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 8:07?PM Joe Monk via <joemonk64=[email protected]> wrote:
CLIP is your friend.

Joe

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 7:56?PM Matthew T. Kromer <zerohero0h@...> wrote:
Don¡¯t you have to skip Track 0?? The VOLSER should be on track 0 record 0.


On Jan 26, 2024, at 8:17?PM, Daniel L. Srebnick via <dan=[email protected]> wrote:

?I want to duplicate some DASD but change the VOLSER to avoid conflicts.

I've tried various permutations of DDR going from DASD to DASD as well as DASD to TAPE to DASD and cannot seem to accomplish my objective.? I always end up with the backup copy overwriting the VOLSER on the target to the original contents.

What am I missing?

Re: DDR to different VOLSER

 

CLIP is your friend.

Joe

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 7:56?PM Matthew T. Kromer <zerohero0h@...> wrote:
Don¡¯t you have to skip Track 0?? The VOLSER should be on track 0 record 0.


On Jan 26, 2024, at 8:17?PM, Daniel L. Srebnick via <dan=[email protected]> wrote:

?I want to duplicate some DASD but change the VOLSER to avoid conflicts.

I've tried various permutations of DDR going from DASD to DASD as well as DASD to TAPE to DASD and cannot seem to accomplish my objective.? I always end up with the backup copy overwriting the VOLSER on the target to the original contents.

What am I missing?

Re: DDR to different VOLSER

 

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Don¡¯t you have to skip Track 0? ?The VOLSER should be on track 0 record 0.


On Jan 26, 2024, at 8:17?PM, Daniel L. Srebnick via groups.io <dan@...> wrote:

?I want to duplicate some DASD but change the VOLSER to avoid conflicts.

I've tried various permutations of DDR going from DASD to DASD as well as DASD to TAPE to DASD and cannot seem to accomplish my objective.? I always end up with the backup copy overwriting the VOLSER on the target to the original contents.

What am I missing?

DDR to different VOLSER

 

I want to duplicate some DASD but change the VOLSER to avoid conflicts.

I've tried various permutations of DDR going from DASD to DASD as well as DASD to TAPE to DASD and cannot seem to accomplish my objective.? I always end up with the backup copy overwriting the VOLSER on the target to the original contents.

What am I missing?
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Locked Re: Reverification after Blacklist

 

Hello!
Everything is good here. Thanks Dave.
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"The Force will be with you. Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi said to Luke in passing.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Wade
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 10:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] Reverification after Blacklist

Folks,

I can see we have thee types of users in this group.
One type have received a re-verification message from groups.io and replied, to these I say Thank You.

One type, the ones I am targeting here, have received the message and not replied.
If they continue to ignore this message they will be removed from all their groups by groups.io and their fully qualified domains blacklisted.
They are all personal domains, or personal sub-domains of a larger domain, so the chances are no one else will notice.
This action has been forced by an e-mail from groups.io being received in a honeypot mailbox.

Oh and to the vast majority, who use say gmail.com, outlook.com or yahoo.com and who have not received the notice, just go back to sleep. Sorry I woke you.

Dave
Locked Re: Reverification after Blacklist

 

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you only need to respond if you received the verification request direct from groups.io.

responding to my message does nothing.

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Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Piotr Kolasinski
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 8:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Reverification after Blacklist

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I also respond .

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Piotr

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W dniu pt., 26.01.2024 o 16:55 Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> napisa?(a):

Folks,

I can see we have thee types of users in this group.
One type have received a re-verification message from and replied, to these I say Thank You.

One type, the ones I am targeting here, have received the message and not replied.
If they continue to ignore this message they will be removed from all their groups by and their fully qualified domains blacklisted.
They are all personal domains, or personal sub-domains of a larger domain, so the chances are no one else will notice.
This action has been forced by an e-mail from being received in a honeypot mailbox.

Oh and to the vast majority, who use say , or and who have not received the notice, just go back to sleep. Sorry I woke you.

Dave
Locked Re: Reverification after Blacklist

 

Not sure if I have to reply to all my groups.io groups.

Well replying here ;-)

Bert
Locked Re: Reverification after Blacklist

 

I also respond .

Piotr


W dniu pt., 26.01.2024 o 16:55 Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> napisa?(a):

Folks,

I can see we have thee types of users in this group.
One type have received a re-verification message from and replied, to these I say Thank You.

One type, the ones I am targeting here, have received the message and not replied.
If they continue to ignore this message they will be removed from all their groups by and their fully qualified domains blacklisted.
They are all personal domains, or personal sub-domains of a larger domain, so the chances are no one else will notice.
This action has been forced by an e-mail from being received in a honeypot mailbox.

Oh and to the vast majority, who use say , or and who have not received the notice, just go back to sleep. Sorry I woke you.

Dave
Locked Re: Reverification after Blacklist

 

Dave,
? ? as requested, I'm replying.?
Thank you,
? ? Hank

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 10:25?AM Bertram Moshier <herc370390vm@...> wrote:
Dave,

It's OK that you woke me.? Sorry to hear about the problem.? Hopefully we can get back to VM/370 CE or VM/CE.

Bertram Moshier

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024, 09:55 Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
Folks,

I can see we have thee types of users in this group.
One type have received a re-verification message from and replied, to these I say Thank You.

One type, the ones I am targeting here, have received the message and not replied.
If they continue to ignore this message they will be removed from all their groups by and their fully qualified domains blacklisted.
They are all personal domains, or personal sub-domains of a larger domain, so the chances are no one else will notice.
This action has been forced by an e-mail from being received in a honeypot mailbox.

Oh and to the vast majority, who use say , or and who have not received the notice, just go back to sleep. Sorry I woke you.

Dave
Missing MVS Macro Calls

 

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Folks,

I know that JCC doesn¡¯t work with VM/370 because it uses OS Macros/SVCs that are not in the CMS OS emulation.

Many moons ago I fixed this in GCCMS but I can¡¯t do the same for JCC as there is no library source.

Has anyone ever added the extra SVCs to the OS emulation to fill in some of the gaps?

Dave
Re: SRE

 

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 06:56 PM, Doug Wegscheid wrote:

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 08:21 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:

If I signal an interrupt, can they be paged in? ;-)

only if the device needing service is not the paging device.

In a well-run organization, if the primary on-call is not available for whatever reason the page automatically escalates to over to the back up (secondary) on-call.

Which reminds me of the time I was secondary on-call and my rookie primary went to a loud concert. I ¡­ spoke?¡­ to them the following morning; they remembered the lesson!

In fact, the three different ways I got notified didn't ALL fire at once; in an sort of internal escalation, they were few seconds apart, giving me a chance to reply to the SMS??at 3:07 AM before my spouse got further harassed by a phone ringing. The SMS was bad enough; I settled on the Station 51 Klaxon (from the TV show Emergency) for the SMS tone and the bridge from Led Zeppelin's?Rock'n'Roll as the robocall ringtone.

(As I said, I don't like missing pages.)

The spouse did?ban anything that sounded anything like a smoke alarm or siren, which eliminated the Star Trek Red Alert signal.

-ahd-

p.s. And yes, 9 years later, I'm still in rehab for all this.
Locked Re: Reverification after Blacklist

 

Dave,

It's OK that you woke me.? Sorry to hear about the problem.? Hopefully we can get back to VM/370 CE or VM/CE.

Bertram Moshier

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024, 09:55 Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
Folks,

I can see we have thee types of users in this group.
One type have received a re-verification message from and replied, to these I say Thank You.

One type, the ones I am targeting here, have received the message and not replied.
If they continue to ignore this message they will be removed from all their groups by and their fully qualified domains blacklisted.
They are all personal domains, or personal sub-domains of a larger domain, so the chances are no one else will notice.
This action has been forced by an e-mail from being received in a honeypot mailbox.

Oh and to the vast majority, who use say , or and who have not received the notice, just go back to sleep. Sorry I woke you.

Dave
Locked Reverification after Blacklist

 

Folks,

I can see we have thee types of users in this group.
One type have received a re-verification message from groups.io and replied, to these I say Thank You.

One type, the ones I am targeting here, have received the message and not replied.
If they continue to ignore this message they will be removed from all their groups by groups.io and their fully qualified domains blacklisted.
They are all personal domains, or personal sub-domains of a larger domain, so the chances are no one else will notice.
This action has been forced by an e-mail from groups.io being received in a honeypot mailbox.

Oh and to the vast majority, who use say gmail.com, outlook.com or yahoo.com and who have not received the notice, just go back to sleep. Sorry I woke you.

Dave
Re: SRE

 

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 08:21 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:

If I signal an interrupt, can they be paged in? ;-)

only if the device needing service is not the paging device.
Re: SRE

 

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:11 AM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
Maybe SREs are just paged out. :-)
If I signal an interrupt, can they be paged in? ;-)

?... Mark S.
Re: SRE

 


I use "SRE Emeritus" because "Defrocked SRE" sounds so dirty ¡­?

There are lists out there along the lines of "If priests are defrocked and lawyers are disbarred, then..." electricians are delighted, cowboys are deranged, models are deposed, and so on. So I imagine programmers are decoded (or deprogrammed) but I'm not sure about SREs. Engineers are derailed (or detrained), but that's a different kind of engineer. Maybe desited?

Of course, most SREs are in a pager duty rotation.

I wrote a "How to Set up your Pager" webpage for the Google Docs SRE team, including how have each page be sent via text, email, and robocall. (I did not to like drop pages!) The SRE-wide pager infrastructure team published my page as canonical.?("Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." ¡ª?Oscar Wilde)?

(Pro Tip: Use a smartphone, not an actual Pager. Cell phone networks are way more robust, even back in 2007!)?

Maybe SREs are just paged out. :-)

-ahd-
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