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Re: X3270 size

 

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Hi Betram,

I am not using Windows, but the x3270 standard client under Linux to access our z/system as well as the Hercules TK4 and all it takes is to use options and selection of the 3270 model to get a specific size of the terminal and the window of the client can be resized the usual way, thought the lines x columns will stay the same,? in my system.
The x3270 client used in CentOS should be available for Windows as well.
Maybe this is just your choice of client.

Thomas

On 10/31/23 08:34, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Hello,

I've been having problems with VM usage because the X3270 screen is so small.? On real 327X devices the physical screen and thus the display is much larger than the X3270 window on Windows (and I assume Linux, too).

I found resizing the window fails, as well as trrying to find a method to size the font.

How do I obtainn a larger window (e.g. size of a real 327X devixe)?? I have large monitors (2560x1600, 3850x2160, and 5120x1440).

Thank you,

Bertram Moshier


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Re: X3270 size

 

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Bertram,

Not sure which 3270 client you are using on Windows. I have been using the WC3270 in the CE edition. If I start terminals from a CMD window they seem to inherit the font size from that session.

Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bertram Moshier
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] X3270 size

?

Hello,

?

I've been having problems with VM usage because the X3270 screen is so small.? On real 327X devices the physical screen and thus the display is much larger than the X3270 window on Windows (and I assume Linux, too).

?

I found resizing the window fails, as well as trrying to find a method to size the font.

?

How do I obtainn a larger window (e.g. size of a real 327X devixe)?? I have large monitors (2560x1600, 3850x2160, and 5120x1440).

?

Thank you,

?

Bertram Moshier


X3270 size

 

Hello,

I've been having problems with VM usage because the X3270 screen is so small.? On real 327X devices the physical screen and thus the display is much larger than the X3270 window on Windows (and I assume Linux, too).

I found resizing the window fails, as well as trrying to find a method to size the font.

How do I obtainn a larger window (e.g. size of a real 327X devixe)?? I have large monitors (2560x1600, 3850x2160, and 5120x1440).

Thank you,

Bertram Moshier


MONITOR Files

 

Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for your reply, which confirms my assumption that it cannot be done
without additional utilities. I'm just wondering why IBM made it so convenient to collect the data
but so complicated to analyze it.?

Regards,
Ralf Straube


Re: MONITOR Files

 


I'm new to VM/370 and wonder how the output of the CP MONITOR command, which is spooled to MAINT's reader, can be accessed.
I found no way to READ, RECEIVE or SFBROWSE these specific files, getting error messages like "READER EMPTY OR NOT READY"
or? "SPOOL FILE xx DOES NOT EXIST OR HIS HELD" but "Q RDR" shows these files and they are definitely not in HOLD state.
In z/VM seem to exist utilities like MONWRITE and? MONSCAN but how can this output be browsed? in VM/370?
Hi Ralf,

These can be read by various utilities that use DIAGNOSE X'14' to read spool
files. One I came across somewhere is called RRMONDSK. This was designed for
VM/SP I think but needed only a small tweak to make it work on VM/370. It was
probably on the Waterloo mods tape or one of the VM Workshop tools tapes.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.


MONITOR Files

 

Hi all,

I'm new to VM/370 and wonder how the output of the CP MONITOR command, which is spooled to MAINT's reader, can be accessed.
I found no way to READ, RECEIVE or SFBROWSE these specific files, getting error messages like "READER EMPTY OR NOT READY"?
or? "SPOOL FILE xx DOES NOT EXIST OR HIS HELD" but "Q RDR" shows these files and they are definitely not in HOLD state.
In z/VM seem to exist utilities like MONWRITE and? MONSCAN but how can this output be browsed? in VM/370??

Thanks for any hint

Cheers Ralf?


Re: REXX package in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2

 

Hi Larry,
Hope you feel better soon. When you do please send the sections of a console that show the exact invocation of these functions? and the exact output they produce. I need enough detail to reproduce the errors.
Best regards,
Bob Bolch

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 11:24 AM Larry S <larryschacher@...> wrote:
Bob,
So far....
B2C fails

B2D fails

B2X works (Also native in brexx)

CLOSE works
Note that doc shows that close can't be called as a function. I was able to call
close as a function, rc = CLOSE(infile) and received 0 as RETURN CODE.

C2B fails

D2B fails

FSCLEAR works

infile = 'FILETEST TEXT A'
CALL OPEN infile
Receives,,,,
???? 3 *-* CALL OPEN infile
Error 40 running ft2, line 3: Incorrect call to routine

FILETEST TEXT A is an existing file.

I am very sick at the moment, but I hope to spend more time with this soon.

Larry S


Re: REXX package in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2

 

Bob,
So far....
B2C fails

B2D fails

B2X works (Also native in brexx)

CLOSE works
Note that doc shows that close can't be called as a function. I was able to call
close as a function, rc = CLOSE(infile) and received 0 as RETURN CODE.

C2B fails

D2B fails

FSCLEAR works

infile = 'FILETEST TEXT A'
CALL OPEN infile
Receives,,,,
???? 3 *-* CALL OPEN infile
Error 40 running ft2, line 3: Incorrect call to routine

FILETEST TEXT A is an existing file.

I am very sick at the moment, but I hope to spend more time with this soon.

Larry S


Re: REXX package in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2

 

All the functions documented in the HELP REXXFUNC?MENU screen are implemented in the?
RXUSERFN?MODULE or the RXLOCFN?MODULE with the source code on the MAINT 5E7 disk.
When these functions?are used in your REXX program, REXX knows to look?in the function
manager modules for these routines. The MODULEs are on the Y-disk, so there is nothing else to do to
have them available.?

Which of the functions return error 43? I would be glad to check into them.

Bob Bolch



On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 7:37?AM Larry S <larryschacher@...> wrote:
I found help and some other references to an external REXX Function package called REXXFUNC
Some of the documented functions work and some kick out an Error 43 Routine not found.
Is there a process needed to load these functions?
Any help or insight would be appreciated.

Warmest Regards to all,
Larry


Re: REXX package in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2

 

Also,
42. New HELP files for the SAS RXUSERFN Rexx function package have been added.??This package supports building fullscreen applications, like the new??fullscreen HELP support, in REXX.

I do not know if both references are for the same "REXXFUNC" Package.


Re: REXX package in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2

 

This is one of the primary topics in the help menu
REXXFUNC? MENU????????????????????????????????????????? Menu Help Information???????????????????????????????????????? ?
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
The file names listed below represent REXXFUNC? MENU subcommands.???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
A file may be selected for viewing by placing the cursor under any??????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
character of the file wanted and pressing the ENTER or the PF1 key.?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
A MENU file is indicated whan a name is preceded by an asterisk (*).????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
For a description of the HELP operands and options, type HELP HELP.?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
B2C?????? CLOSE???? D2B?????? FSCLRFLD? FSDATA??? FSEWRITE? FSVARS??? FULLSCRE? POINT???? PUNCH???? READ????? WRITE?? ?
B2D?????? C2B?????? FSCLEAR?? FSCURSOR? FSEND???? FSRESET?? FSWRITE?? OPEN????? PRINT???? READCARD? STATUS??? X2B???? ?
B2X?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Re: REXX package in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2

 

I could help you with this, if I could see the "help and some other references" you refer to.
Bob Bolch

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 7:37?AM Larry S <larryschacher@...> wrote:
I found help and some other references to an external REXX Function package called REXXFUNC
Some of the documented functions work and some kick out an Error 43 Routine not found.
Is there a process needed to load these functions?
Any help or insight would be appreciated.

Warmest Regards to all,
Larry


REXX package in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2

 

I found help and some other references to an external REXX Function package called REXXFUNC
Some of the documented functions work and some kick out an Error 43 Routine not found.
Is there a process needed to load these functions?
Any help or insight would be appreciated.

Warmest Regards to all,
Larry


Re: Managing Host ID on VM370CE

 

The RSCS IDs on VMCE are there for future use. There is no code on the current VMCE release which uses them.
Bob Bolch

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023, 6:55 AM Matthew T. Kromer <zerohero0h@...> wrote:
I’m pretty sure, albeit going from memory, that SYSTEM NETID is used primarily by the NAMES module and very little inside CP or CMS actually cares about the CPUID.? I don’t remember what tells CP what to display in its host name fields, it may have been in DMKSYS, but it’s probably been since 1992 that I last generated a VM SP nucleus. With ESA it was set in the system config.

While I’d enjoy having a VM SP 5 system image, I don’t have one and I haven’t used CE that much to refresh my memory on the SP build process… ? Melinda Varians cookbook has everything in it.


On Aug 25, 2023, at 5:19 AM, Alejandro olivan Alvarez <alejandro.olivan.alvarez@...> wrote:

?Thanks to all! :-)

- By one side, just in case someone google for this later, I confirm, that as pointed above, the following procedure does the trick!

DEF STOR 16M
IPL 190
SAVESYS CMS

- And in the other side, I just noticed the point on the CPU serial number on hercules config... so I changed it (never did before) and noticed the Q CPUID command yelds the number now.
I matched that number in DMKSYS ASSEMBLE but I'm not sure on the eventual consequences on such change in other parts of the system (I've learnt to not asume anything based on my experince on 'normal' computers), and/or conversly what could go wrong if someone just changes the CPU serial in hercules config but not DMKSYS ASSEMBLE (apparently, it all just works).

I have still to figure out what NetID/NodeID refer to with absolute certainty... my understanding (which I know I can't trust under Mainframe environment) suggests me that, given an scenario where multiple insntances of RSCS Virtual machines (I see we've RSCS, RSCS1 and RSCSTST on USER DIRECT) are simultaneously running on this system, NetID could be a way to provide a distinct NodeID for each network this host is connected to... but not really sure.


Re: Managing Host ID on VM370CE

 

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Matthew,

You are correct the CPU serial isn’t critical, and is only used in couple of places in VM/CMS. In fact in the base VM/370R6 I don’t believe anything uses it.

There are modifications in VM370CE which use it. One adds a SYSID macro to DMKSYS which allows you to specify multiple CPU serial numbers and system name pairs.

There are then further modifications to examine this data and include it in banner pages and the bottom right of 3270 sessions.

The SYSTEM NETID file does a similar job for CMS. The IDENTIFY command uses the CPU ID? to identify which line in this file applies and then reports system name and the ID of the RSCS virtual machine.

?

On VM/SP its used by SENDFILE but I don’t think we have SENDFILE on CE.

I assume its in two places because CP does not have access to, or even know, which disk CMS is going to use as the S-Disk.

?

Dave

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matthew T. Kromer
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Managing Host ID on VM370CE

?

I’m pretty sure, albeit going from memory, that SYSTEM NETID is used primarily by the NAMES module and very little inside CP or CMS actually cares about the CPUID. ?I don’t remember what tells CP what to display in its host name fields, it may have been in DMKSYS, but it’s probably been since 1992 that I last generated a VM SP nucleus. With ESA it was set in the system config.

?

While I’d enjoy having a VM SP 5 system image, I don’t have one and I haven’t used CE that much to refresh my memory on the SP build process… ? Melinda Varians cookbook has everything in it.



On Aug 25, 2023, at 5:19 AM, Alejandro olivan Alvarez <alejandro.olivan.alvarez@...> wrote:

?Thanks to all! :-)

- By one side, just in case someone google for this later, I confirm, that as pointed above, the following procedure does the trick!

DEF STOR 16M
IPL 190
SAVESYS CMS

- And in the other side, I just noticed the point on the CPU serial number on hercules config... so I changed it (never did before) and noticed the Q CPUID command yelds the number now.
I matched that number in DMKSYS ASSEMBLE but I'm not sure on the eventual consequences on such change in other parts of the system (I've learnt to not asume anything based on my experince on 'normal' computers), and/or conversly what could go wrong if someone just changes the CPU serial in hercules config but not DMKSYS ASSEMBLE (apparently, it all just works).

I have still to figure out what NetID/NodeID refer to with absolute certainty... my understanding (which I know I can't trust under Mainframe environment) suggests me that, given an scenario where multiple insntances of RSCS Virtual machines (I see we've RSCS, RSCS1 and RSCSTST on USER DIRECT) are simultaneously running on this system, NetID could be a way to provide a distinct NodeID for each network this host is connected to... but not really sure.


Re: Managing Host ID on VM370CE

 

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I’m pretty sure, albeit going from memory, that SYSTEM NETID is used primarily by the NAMES module and very little inside CP or CMS actually cares about the CPUID. ?I don’t remember what tells CP what to display in its host name fields, it may have been in DMKSYS, but it’s probably been since 1992 that I last generated a VM SP nucleus. With ESA it was set in the system config.

While I’d enjoy having a VM SP 5 system image, I don’t have one and I haven’t used CE that much to refresh my memory on the SP build process… ? Melinda Varians cookbook has everything in it.


On Aug 25, 2023, at 5:19 AM, Alejandro olivan Alvarez <alejandro.olivan.alvarez@...> wrote:

?Thanks to all! :-)

- By one side, just in case someone google for this later, I confirm, that as pointed above, the following procedure does the trick!

DEF STOR 16M
IPL 190
SAVESYS CMS

- And in the other side, I just noticed the point on the CPU serial number on hercules config... so I changed it (never did before) and noticed the Q CPUID command yelds the number now.
I matched that number in DMKSYS ASSEMBLE but I'm not sure on the eventual consequences on such change in other parts of the system (I've learnt to not asume anything based on my experince on 'normal' computers), and/or conversly what could go wrong if someone just changes the CPU serial in hercules config but not DMKSYS ASSEMBLE (apparently, it all just works).

I have still to figure out what NetID/NodeID refer to with absolute certainty... my understanding (which I know I can't trust under Mainframe environment) suggests me that, given an scenario where multiple insntances of RSCS Virtual machines (I see we've RSCS, RSCS1 and RSCSTST on USER DIRECT) are simultaneously running on this system, NetID could be a way to provide a distinct NodeID for each network this host is connected to... but not really sure.


Re: Managing Host ID on VM370CE

 

Thanks to all! :-)

- By one side, just in case someone google for this later, I confirm, that as pointed above, the following procedure does the trick!

DEF STOR 16M
IPL 190
SAVESYS CMS

- And in the other side, I just noticed the point on the CPU serial number on hercules config... so I changed it (never did before) and noticed the Q CPUID command yelds the number now.
I matched that number in DMKSYS ASSEMBLE but I'm not sure on the eventual consequences on such change in other parts of the system (I've learnt to not asume anything based on my experince on 'normal' computers), and/or conversly what could go wrong if someone just changes the CPU serial in hercules config but not DMKSYS ASSEMBLE (apparently, it all just works).

I have still to figure out what NetID/NodeID refer to with absolute certainty... my understanding (which I know I can't trust under Mainframe environment) suggests me that, given an scenario where multiple insntances of RSCS Virtual machines (I see we've RSCS, RSCS1 and RSCSTST on USER DIRECT) are simultaneously running on this system, NetID could be a way to provide a distinct NodeID for each network this host is connected to... but not really sure.


Re: Managing Host ID on VM370CE

 

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The way I remember is to DEF STOR 16M and then IPL 190 SAVESYS CMS


On Aug 24, 2023, at 11:36 AM, Alejandro olivan Alvarez <alejandro.olivan.alvarez@...> wrote:

?Hi again.

OK... Thanks Bob, I managed to tweak SYSID :-) ... I recall the MAINT MEMO since I learn how to tweak DMKRIO, so it turned out to be exactly the same procedure.
I still have not found the documentation on that particular macro, but just by trial error I fugured that it's limited to 8 chars (but surprisingly accepts chars such as '/' and '-') ... but I'll like to learn more about what DEFAULT= means there and overall whats beyond all that.

OTOH, For NetID, which at first glance appeared to be the easy one to have it tweaked, it turns out that I quickly managed to get the system screwed (it wasn't that hard! :-P).
I tried accesing the S disk in write mode on another letter, edit SYSTEM NETID, and then re-ipl 190... but a message appeared about virtual machine size beig too small for a non-shared cms (or something like that) and the VM wen to CP. From that point, CMS fails to IPL any more, going back to CP telling 'program interrupt loop'... So clearly there must be some kind of procedure to achieve this.?
What is the right wat to apply changes to that file at disk S? or where could I read about how to handle the need for such changes?

Cheers!


Re: Managing Host ID on VM370CE

 

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I think you have missed one thing. The whole point of the CPUID? in the SYSTEM NETID is that you can have the same VM IPLd on multiple different hardware systems.

The IDENTIFY command then matches the CPU serial number to that of the processor and reports i

Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alejandro olivan Alvarez
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2023 4:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Managing Host ID on VM370CE

?

Hi again.

OK... Thanks Bob, I managed to tweak SYSID :-) ... I recall the MAINT MEMO since I learn how to tweak DMKRIO, so it turned out to be exactly the same procedure.
I still have not found the documentation on that particular macro, but just by trial error I fugured that it's limited to 8 chars (but surprisingly accepts chars such as '/' and '-') ... but I'll like to learn more about what DEFAULT= means there and overall whats beyond all that.

OTOH, For NetID, which at first glance appeared to be the easy one to have it tweaked, it turns out that I quickly managed to get the system screwed (it wasn't that hard! :-P).
I tried accesing the S disk in write mode on another letter, edit SYSTEM NETID, and then re-ipl 190... but a message appeared about virtual machine size beig too small for a non-shared cms (or something like that) and the VM wen to CP. From that point, CMS fails to IPL any more, going back to CP telling 'program interrupt loop'... So clearly there must be some kind of procedure to achieve this.?
What is the right wat to apply changes to that file at disk S? or where could I read about how to handle the need for such changes?

Cheers!


Re: Managing Host ID on VM370CE

 

Hi again.

OK... Thanks Bob, I managed to tweak SYSID :-) ... I recall the MAINT MEMO since I learn how to tweak DMKRIO, so it turned out to be exactly the same procedure.
I still have not found the documentation on that particular macro, but just by trial error I fugured that it's limited to 8 chars (but surprisingly accepts chars such as '/' and '-') ... but I'll like to learn more about what DEFAULT= means there and overall whats beyond all that.

OTOH, For NetID, which at first glance appeared to be the easy one to have it tweaked, it turns out that I quickly managed to get the system screwed (it wasn't that hard! :-P).
I tried accesing the S disk in write mode on another letter, edit SYSTEM NETID, and then re-ipl 190... but a message appeared about virtual machine size beig too small for a non-shared cms (or something like that) and the VM wen to CP. From that point, CMS fails to IPL any more, going back to CP telling 'program interrupt loop'... So clearly there must be some kind of procedure to achieve this.?
What is the right wat to apply changes to that file at disk S? or where could I read about how to handle the need for such changes?

Cheers!