Re: Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Snellen Sent: Friday, December 23, 2022 9:54 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE? Hello Mike, I used FileZilla with a logon of Anonymous with no password and connected just fine on port 21. Best regards, Jim On Dec 23, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Mike Ward <antebios1153@...> wrote:
?Fish, I can't seem to access your FTP site.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
FYI: I have a whole collection of VM workshop tapes from George Shedlock archived on my SoftDevLabs FTP site:
ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/shedlock/vmwkshop/
ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/shedlock/vmwkshop/index.html
05/26/2018 12:00AM 27,653,205 85WTTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 36,449,139 86WTTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 16,146,055 87TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 64,035,013 87VMPCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 26,257,991 88TLWTUK.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 51,437,895 89PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 21,439,876 89TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 75,179,949 90PCTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 57,117,914 90PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 61,829,769 90VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 13,976,102 90WT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 53,202,571 91TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 72,119,173 91VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 53,202,571 91WT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 39,196,425 91WTPC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 44,186,916 92TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 80,074,864 92VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 67,637,551 92WTPC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 67,844,419 93PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,724,607 93TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 89,034,366 93VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,469,013 94PC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,166,389 94TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 39,862,504 94VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 2,936 index.html
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"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
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Re: Drive Interrupt button using Hercules?
"So, how does one on Hercules interrupt a CCW program in an infinite loop?"
That would be the "I" (capital letter I) console command.
?I 0194
Joe
Huh?
This was real iron and occurred during my days of learning CCW programming.? (Habing programs write programs for me.)
So, how does one on Hercules interrupt a CCW program in an infinite loop?? On real iron I would press the 3350 (as an example) interrupt button.
Thanks.
On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 09:43 Mark A. Stevens via <marXtevens= [email protected]> wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 04:57 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
I decided to move my mini-disks from the page and/or spool drvies.? For some reason the prior system developer felt the drives for those working to run the data center should be on the same drive as VM's drives.?
Maybe those DASD were on a daily/incremental backup schedule?
?... Mark S.
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Re: Drive Interrupt button using Hercules?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 10:00 AM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
For some reason the prior system developer felt the drives for those working to run the data center should be on the same drive as VM's drives.?
As far as pushing buttons, IDK. I'm retired. I don't have any need to push anyone's buttons, nor to have mine pushed :-D I was responding to why the developers files were on page/spool DASD. It's just a guess. As a developer, I am concerned about backups of my stuff. As a Systems Programmer, I am concerned about performance. It was lovely when I wore both hats. :-/ ?... Mark S.
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Re: Drive Interrupt button using Hercules?
Huh?
This was real iron and occurred during my days of learning CCW programming.? (Habing programs write programs for me.)
So, how does one on Hercules interrupt a CCW program in an infinite loop?? On real iron I would press the 3350 (as an example) interrupt button.
Thanks.
On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 09:43 Mark A. Stevens via <marXtevens= [email protected]> wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 04:57 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
I decided to move my mini-disks from the page and/or spool drvies.? For some reason the prior system developer felt the drives for those working to run the data center should be on the same drive as VM's drives.?
Maybe those DASD were on a daily/incremental backup schedule?
?... Mark S.
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Re: Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
Hello Mike,
I used FileZilla with a logon of Anonymous with no password and connected just fine on port 21.
Best regards,
Jim
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On Dec 23, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Mike Ward <antebios1153@...> wrote:
?Fish, I can't seem to access your FTP site.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
FYI: I have a whole collection of VM workshop tapes from George Shedlock archived on my SoftDevLabs FTP site:
ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/shedlock/vmwkshop/
ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/shedlock/vmwkshop/index.html
05/26/2018 12:00AM 27,653,205 85WTTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 36,449,139 86WTTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 16,146,055 87TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 64,035,013 87VMPCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 26,257,991 88TLWTUK.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 51,437,895 89PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 21,439,876 89TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 75,179,949 90PCTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 57,117,914 90PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 61,829,769 90VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 13,976,102 90WT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 53,202,571 91TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 72,119,173 91VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 53,202,571 91WT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 39,196,425 91WTPC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 44,186,916 92TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 80,074,864 92VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 67,637,551 92WTPC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 67,844,419 93PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,724,607 93TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 89,034,366 93VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,469,013 94PC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,166,389 94TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 39,862,504 94VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 2,936 index.html
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"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
mail: fish@...
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Re: Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
Fish, I can't seem to access your FTP site.
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:58 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE? FYI: I have a whole collection of VM workshop tapes from George Shedlock archived on my SoftDevLabs FTP site: ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/shedlock/vmwkshop/ ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/shedlock/vmwkshop/index.html 05/26/2018 12:00AM 27,653,205 85WTTL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 36,449,139 86WTTL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 16,146,055 87TL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 64,035,013 87VMPCWT.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 26,257,991 88TLWTUK.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 51,437,895 89PCWT.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 21,439,876 89TL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 75,179,949 90PCTL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 57,117,914 90PCWT.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 61,829,769 90VM.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 13,976,102 90WT.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 53,202,571 91TL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 72,119,173 91VM.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 53,202,571 91WT.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 39,196,425 91WTPC.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 44,186,916 92TL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 80,074,864 92VM.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 67,637,551 92WTPC.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 67,844,419 93PCWT.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,724,607 93TL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 89,034,366 93VM.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,469,013 94PC.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,166,389 94TL.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 39,862,504 94VM.zip 05/26/2018 12:00AM 2,936 index.html -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Re: Drive Interrupt button using Hercules?
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 04:57 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
I decided to move my mini-disks from the page and/or spool drvies.? For some reason the prior system developer felt the drives for those working to run the data center should be on the same drive as VM's drives.?
Maybe those DASD were on a daily/incremental backup schedule? ?... Mark S.
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Re: Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
FYI: I have a whole collection of VM workshop tapes from George Shedlock archived on my SoftDevLabs FTP site:
ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/shedlock/vmwkshop/
ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/shedlock/vmwkshop/index.html
05/26/2018 12:00AM 27,653,205 85WTTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 36,449,139 86WTTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 16,146,055 87TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 64,035,013 87VMPCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 26,257,991 88TLWTUK.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 51,437,895 89PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 21,439,876 89TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 75,179,949 90PCTL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 57,117,914 90PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 61,829,769 90VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 13,976,102 90WT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 53,202,571 91TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 72,119,173 91VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 53,202,571 91WT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 39,196,425 91WTPC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 44,186,916 92TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 80,074,864 92VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 67,637,551 92WTPC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 67,844,419 93PCWT.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,724,607 93TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 89,034,366 93VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,469,013 94PC.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 60,166,389 94TL.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 39,862,504 94VM.zip
05/26/2018 12:00AM 2,936 index.html
--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
mail: fish@...
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Re: Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 03:16 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
I've been unable to find any other sources, as I was looking for files I submitted all those years ago.
I stumbled over this just a moment ago. Seems VMWorkshop.org is more active lately and has been updated. ?... Mark S.
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Re: Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 12:10 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
I keep reading people talk about the Waterloo and VMShare tapes.? Are they available for VM/CE?
The VMSHARE "tapes" are available from: 1986 only. All others. I've been unable to find any other sources, as I was looking for files I submitted all those years ago. IHTH. ?... Mark S.
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Extra Data Left in Console Buffer When Running RECEIVE?
#VMCE
#rexx
On the MAINT userid, I used SENDFILE to give a copy to my XMAS userid. It is Christmas after all ;-)
+--------MAINT---------
|Ready; T=0.19/0.30 14:31:51
|sendfile vmfee exec a to xmas
|PUN FILE 1508? TO? XMAS???? COPY 01 NOHOLD
|Ready; T=0.29/0.41 14:32:20
|l vmfee exec a ( date
|Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time
|VMFEE??? EXEC???? A1? F??? 80???? 83????? 9? 12/17/22?? 17:23
|Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:32:31
+--------MAINT---------
On XMAS, well today is the 22nd, so it's early. I used RECEIVE with the following results.
+--------XMAS----------
|PUN FILE 1508 FROM MAINT??? COPY 01 NOHOLD
|q rdr *
|ORIGINID FILE CLASS RECDS? CPY HOLD
|MAINT??? 1508 N PUN 000089? 01 NONE
|Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:32:42
|receive 1508
|VMFEE EXEC A1 created
|interpret: 3 items left in stack.
|#2: "224"
|#1: "6"
|#0: "1"
|Ready; T=0.63/0.75 14:34:19
|l vmfee exec a ( date
|Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time
|VMFEE??? EXEC???? A1? F??? 80???? 83????? 9? 12/22/22?? 14:34
|Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:34:42
+--------XMAS----------
I haven't looked at RECEIVE EXEC Y, yet, but wondering if the author, Kevin E. Jordan, has an idea of what was stacked in the console, but not processed?
?... Mark S.
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Re: Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 10:10 AM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
I keep reading people talk about the Waterloo and VMShare tapes.? Are they available for VM/CE?
There are Waterloo tapes availbale in the Files section of this group. Check for the folder "Waterloo Tapes" on page 5 of the section. Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Waterloo / VMShare tapes for VM/CE?
Hello everyone,
I keep reading people talk about the Waterloo and VMShare tapes.? Are they available for VM/CE?
Examples would be mountable tapes to a VM/CE system or could be on two mini-disk drives, etc?
Thank you,
Bertram Moshier
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Re: LCML+L VM/SP reliability (Who you gonna call?)
#LCM-L
> The RX* ASSEMBLE files are the source for a REXX function package from SAS Institute contributed during the VM/SP era on various Waterloo/VMSHARE tape sets.?
?
If someone sorts out what is where (sources to load from) and what should be on the LCM+L VM/SP system, I can talk to people.
?
These are the RX* files public on the LCM+L Y disk.? Note that not all packages are live, for example TCP/IP is not installed (no network adapter) and so RXSOCKET is not useful.
?
FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL? ? ? ?RECS? ? ?BLOCKS? ?DATE? ? ?TIME
RXBIT? ? ASSEMBLE Y2 F? ? ? ? ?80? ? ? ? 828? ? ? ? ?17? 5/15/90 11:17:34
RXBIT? ? MODULE? ?Y2 V? ? ? ?2224? ? ? ? ? 4? ? ? ? ? 1? 5/15/90 11:35:26
RXDATE? ?ASSEMBLE Y2 F? ? ? ? ?80? ? ? ?1243? ? ? ? ?25? 5/15/90 11:17:35
RXDATE? ?MODULE? ?Y2 V? ? ? ?3640? ? ? ? ? 4? ? ? ? ? 1? 5/15/90 11:35:34
RXFILEIO ASSEMBLE Y2 F? ? ? ? ?80? ? ? ?2654? ? ? ? ?52? 5/15/90 11:17:36
RXFILEIO MODULE? ?Y2 V? ? ? ?4128? ? ? ? ? 4? ? ? ? ? 2? 5/15/90 11:35:44
RXFS? ? ?ASSEMBLE Y2 F? ? ? ? ?80? ? ? ?4367? ? ? ? ?86? 5/15/90 11:17:40
RXFS? ? ?LISTING? Y2 V? ? ? ? ?63? ? ? ? 366? ? ? ? ? 5? 4/02/87 16:12:03
RXFS? ? ?MODULE? ?Y2 V? ? ? 11056? ? ? ? ? 4? ? ? ? ? 3? 5/15/90 11:36:03
RXSOCKET $PACKAGE Y2 V? ? ? ? ?72? ? ? ? 144? ? ? ? ? 2? 1/10/94 17:10:36
RXSOCKET HELPTASK Y2 V? ? ? ? ?80? ? ? ? ?67? ? ? ? ? 1? 1/10/94 17:06:13
RXSOCKET MANUAL? ?Y2 V? ? ? ? ?96? ? ? ?3318? ? ? ? ?31? 6/04/93 10:23:03
RXSOCKET MEMO? ? ?Y2 V? ? ? ? ?74? ? ? ? 604? ? ? ? ? 5? 2/17/93 21:23:48
RXSOCKET MODULE? ?Y2 V? ? ? 36888? ? ? ? ? 2? ? ? ? ?10? 7/01/94? 9:55:53
RXSOCKET SCRIPT? ?Y2 V? ? ? ? 133? ? ? ?2474? ? ? ? ?21? 4/20/94 10:44:15
RXSOCKET TCPXLATE Y2 V? ? ? ? ?59? ? ? ? ?40? ? ? ? ? 1? 2/17/93 11:53:48
RXSOCKET TCPXLBIN Y2 F? ? ? ? 256? ? ? ? ? 3? ? ? ? ? 1? 2/17/93 11:53:59
RXSSAMPL EXEC? ? ?Y2 V? ? ? ? ?73? ? ? ? 157? ? ? ? ? 2? 2/17/93 11:52:50
RXSTOR? ?ASSEMBLE Y2 F? ? ? ? ?80? ? ? ? 879? ? ? ? ?18? 5/15/90 11:17:41
RXSTOR? ?MODULE? ?Y2 V? ? ? ?6072? ? ? ? ? 4? ? ? ? ? 2? 5/15/90 11:35:21
RXS004E? HELPMSG? Y2 V? ? ? ? ?79? ? ? ? ?19? ? ? ? ? 1? 1/10/94 17:04:52
RXS008E? HELPMSG? Y2 V? ? ? ? ?78? ? ? ? ?19? ? ? ? ? 1? 1/10/94 17:04:55
RXS012E? HELPMSG? Y2 V? ? ? ? ?77? ? ? ? ?17? ? ? ? ? 1? 1/10/94 17:04:56
RXS028W? HELPMSG? Y2 V? ? ? ? ?76? ? ? ? ?19? ? ? ? ? 1? 1/10/94 17:04:57
RXURIO? ?ASSEMBLE Y2 F? ? ? ? ?80? ? ? ? 676? ? ? ? ?14? 5/15/90 11:17:45
RXURIO? ?MODULE? ?Y2 V? ? ? ?2000? ? ? ? ? 4? ? ? ? ? 1? 5/15/90 11:36:08
RXUSERFN ASSEMBLE Y2 F? ? ? ? ?80? ? ? ? 514? ? ? ? ?11? 5/15/90 11:17:46
RXUSERFN MODULE? ?Y2 V? ? ? ?1824? ? ? ? ? 4? ? ? ? ? 1? 5/15/90 11:36:12
RXWSAMPL EXEC? ? ?Y2 V? ? ? ? ?73? ? ? ? 157? ? ? ? ? 2? 6/06/94 21:11:30
RXWSAMPL TIMEFILE Y2 V? ? ? ? ?57? ? ? ? ?10? ? ? ? ? 1? 2/17/93 11:55:04
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Re: LCML+L VM/SP reliability (Who you gonna call?)
#LCM-L
The RX* ASSEMBLE files are the source for a REXX function package from SAS Institute contributed during the VM/SP era on various Waterloo/VMSHARE tape sets.?
There were various versions available. I used a version, I got from SAS, in the VMCE 1.1.2 release. I only used the parts I needed, but the sources on VMCE are on MAINT disk 5E7. I later saw these files on the museum VM/SP system, but I could not find the MACLIB needed to assemble them on VM/SP.
I never matched the two versions, to see if they were at the same level, but the runtime versions on VMCE were built from the source on VMCE.
Bob Bolch
Hello,
Thank you :)
I'm wondering about the macro libraries for assembly language programs.? Specifically, I was looking at the RX* ASSEMBLE Y2 files and noticed several macros (but I can't find the library / library source code).
I fill like I'm back at the first days of my college courses.? LOL and sigh!
Bertram Moshier / WB8ERT
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 04:10 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Is it possible to get access to this system?
?
Guest access is available. Just connect a 3270 session to? and logon with one of the 6 guest accounts.
I don't know about access to a regular personal virtual machines.
Cheers,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: LCML+L VM/SP reliability (Who you gonna call?)
#LCM-L
Noe on the LCM+L machine:?
LISTFILE * MACLIB *?
MACLIST name
Will show you all the accessed MACLIBs on the system,? and then MACLIST name will give you a FILELIST-like directory of the members of the specified MACLIB.
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Re: LCML+L VM/SP reliability (Who you gonna call?)
#LCM-L
Bertram said,
I'm wondering about the macro libraries for assembly language programs.? Specifically, I was looking at the RX* ASSEMBLE Y2 files and noticed several macros (but I can't find the library / library source code).
If you are looking at code through one of the recent VMF* execs, then you need to look in the EXEC for GLOBAL MACLIB, to identify which maclibs to search. If you are just looking at the code, then from CMS run QUERY MACLIB to see which macro libraries are currently in effect. Also, you can use the command: SCAN fn|* ft|* fm|* SCAN * MACLIB * and look for such 'words' as R12, or EQU, or MACRO. Granted, a lot of stuff will show up, but hopefully, it will put you on the right track. Finally, be aware there are MACLIBs which contain source, or macros and are only used for a particular application/language, such as ASSIST. I Hope This Helps. ?... Mark S.
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Re: LCML+L VM/SP reliability (Who you gonna call?)
#LCM-L
Hello,
Thank you :)
I'm wondering about the macro libraries for assembly language programs.? Specifically, I was looking at the RX* ASSEMBLE Y2 files and noticed several macros (but I can't find the library / library source code).
I fill like I'm back at the first days of my college courses.? LOL and sigh!
Bertram Moshier / WB8ERT
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 04:10 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Is it possible to get access to this system?
?
Guest access is available. Just connect a 3270 session to? and logon with one of the 6 guest accounts.
I don't know about access to a regular personal virtual machines.
Cheers,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: LCML+L VM/SP reliability (Who you gonna call?)
#LCM-L
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 05:15 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
What are the 6 accounts and password?
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GUEST, GUEST1 to GUEST5, same password = GUEST. It is actually mentioned on the logo page of the system. Make the connection and see for yourself. :-) Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: LCML+L VM/SP reliability (Who you gonna call?)
#LCM-L
What are the 6 accounts and password?
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 04:10 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Is it possible to get access to this system?
?
Guest access is available. Just connect a 3270 session to? and logon with one of the 6 guest accounts.
I don't know about access to a regular personal virtual machines.
Cheers,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Mark A. Stevens
Jim Snellen
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