Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
Gregg Levine wrote: [...] Incidentally Fish my Dell Dimension still thinks yours is
too young to work all night. Too YOUNG? Nonsense! It (Dell Precision T7500) has been running non-stop for YEARS now, and is still going strong. This message will need to be interpreted by two monsters Monsters? to two different people. And can be easily understood by
someone who breathes through gills. Well... All except the Linux stuff, yeah. ;-) -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
Hello!
Jim just how old is this laptop? And, ah, was XP native on it? Last
year I bought a pair of Dell laptops from the VCF East events, and one
of them, a Dell Latitude model runs Seven splendidly, and the earlier
one, also same brand, runs XP poorly. Which is curious because that's
the OS it was designed for. These are from the middle to the late part
of the twenty year period for Dell laptops.
Oddly enough, I run Slackware Linux, and it ran splendidly on the one
I had before, even WiFi worked perfectly. Yes I needed to download the
the tools and firmware to make the WiFi card work, but that was
expected. And the one running Seven is in fact the guy Dell was
selling after the model I had before, The big difference between those
and the Inspiron families are the target audience. One is for
lease/purchase and the other is for outright purchase.
I am not a big fan of Debian based distributions, including itself,
but I run one on the Raspberry Pi, but for Intel (or AMD) based
platforms I prefer Slackware. However the problem is that it's not a
supported one out there in the world of Linux supported by IBM and
everyone else.
Incidentally Fish my Dell Dimension still thinks yours is too young
to work all night.
This message will need to be interpreted by two monsters to two
different people. And can be easily understood by someone who breathes
through gills.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@...
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
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On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 9:45 PM Jim Snellen <jsnellen55@...> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm taking a break from Windows and trying to resurrect my old work laptop that used to run Windows XP. I have a Dell Precision M90 with 4gbs and a NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500M graphics card. All of the last 4 version of Linux Mint Cinnamon fail to support the card (surprise!). I'm now trying Ubuntu 22.04 with some success although the display is sometimes fragmented. If I go to a different function and then return, the screen refreshes correctly.
While I'm at it, I found Hercules Studio 1.5 and Hercules 3.13 along with X3270. I'm trying to get it to work with VM/370 CE 1.3 to no avail (HHCP011I CPU0000 Disabled wait state PSW=000A000 00000017). VMCE works fine on my Windows system with HercGUI and Hyperion 4.4.1.
Any suggestions on a distro for my laptop and/or VMCE?
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Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
Mike, It would be be good to see the console log for the VM startup. Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Ward
Sent: 18 September 2022 16:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro? Is it possible that VM is trying to access a device that isn¡¯t there? ? ? Hello all,
I'm taking a break from Windows and trying to resurrect my old work laptop that used to run Windows XP.? I have a Dell Precision M90 with 4gbs and a NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500M graphics card.? All of the last 4 version of Linux Mint Cinnamon fail to support the card (surprise!).? I'm now trying Ubuntu 22.04 with some success although the display is sometimes fragmented.? If I go to a different function and then return, the screen refreshes correctly.
While I'm at it, I found Hercules Studio 1.5 and Hercules 3.13 along with X3270.? I'm trying to get it to work with VM/370 CE 1.3 to no avail (HHCP011I CPU0000 Disabled wait state PSW=000A000 00000017).? VMCE works fine on my Windows system with HercGUI and Hyperion 4.4.1.
Any suggestions on a distro for my laptop and/or VMCE?
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Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
Is it possible that VM is trying to access a device that isn¡¯t there? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Snellen Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 8:46 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [h390-vm] Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro ? Hello all,
I'm taking a break from Windows and trying to resurrect my old work laptop that used to run Windows XP.? I have a Dell Precision M90 with 4gbs and a NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500M graphics card.? All of the last 4 version of Linux Mint Cinnamon fail to support the card (surprise!).? I'm now trying Ubuntu 22.04 with some success although the display is sometimes fragmented.? If I go to a different function and then return, the screen refreshes correctly.
While I'm at it, I found Hercules Studio 1.5 and Hercules 3.13 along with X3270.? I'm trying to get it to work with VM/370 CE 1.3 to no avail (HHCP011I CPU0000 Disabled wait state PSW=000A000 00000017).? VMCE works fine on my Windows system with HercGUI and Hyperion 4.4.1.
Any suggestions on a distro for my laptop and/or VMCE?
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Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 09:56 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
I also can't say much about VM/370 CE either, since I don't really use it.
And finally, I can't say ANYTHING AT ALL about Hercules 3.x(**), it being a completely stone cold fucking DEAD product, and am continually amazed there as people that still insist on using it.
This is the place to ask questions about VM/370 CE, VM/370 Sixpack, and others. The ONLY reason for using Hercules 3.x is because you heard about it, and can find it in the Fedora/Red Hat/.../[A-Z*]Ubuntu/... and other distributions list of available products, and have not yet found about the superior Hercules 4. Jim Snellen wrote:
While I'm at it, I found Hercules Studio 1.5 and Hercules 3.13 along with X3270.? I'm trying to get it to work with VM/370 CE 1.3 to no avail (HHCP011I CPU0000 Disabled wait state PSW=000A000 00000017).? VMCE works fine on my Windows system with HercGUI and Hyperion 4.4.1.
The problem with Hercules 3 and VM/370 CE is the use of VM Assists, also called EPCS:VM (did I get that in the right order?) Herc 3 does not support those, so you would need to turn them off in the configuration file. It is highly unlikely that Hercules 3 will ever have this fixed. ECPSVM????????? NO# Certain assists need to be disabled until Hyperion is fixed.I Hope This Helps. ?... Mark S.
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Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
When I couldn't install Devuan in an old laptop, I went upstream to Debian (which Ubuntu is also based on) and filed a bug report that Debian 6 was installable. In the next version, it was fixed. By the way, Ubuntu 10 has the best user interface; the later attempts to creating something that works on a desktop, cell phone and tablet, as could be predicted, is less than optimal for any.
Upgrade on Debian or Ubuntu can be problematic. Archive the user data (/home of course but mysql squirreled its data in a less than obvious place, and all of /usr and /var could have necessary files, not to mention /etc and all of the application settings) and then cross your fingers. After spending a weekend rebuilding a mail server, the next time I said to myself, of course Ubuntu must have fixed their installer bug - can you guess the result? Which is better, traversing the application dependencies and only delete the files the maintainer says are obsoleted or?just empty the entire spool. In a flash. Debian has problems if you are updating after they have turned off their repositories for the versions, despite you downloading the archives and told your computer to use your local files. One winds up booting up into the standalone shell and informing the system which package is obsoleted and where the updates are. For days. I have a laptop which informs us that Ubuntu 12 is booting but after your log in, tells you that it is really Ubuntu 14. So I left it that way for grins and chuckles. Fedora is better for allowing one to use a local repository mirror, if a bit arcane.
Your problem is probably a lack of device drivers. Finding the right files and moving to the computer with a updated install is a mechanical task. The last laptop I bought needed drivers and while I eventually found them on the web, they are not yet to be found in the distros.
Laird Heal
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Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
Jim Snellen wrote: Hello all,
I'm taking a break from Windows What?! HOW DARE YOU! TRAITOR!! </kidding> :) [...] Any suggestions on a distro for my laptop and/or VMCE? <std disclaimer(*)> I have 3 Linux distros installed in VMware virtual machines, and all run just fine for me (with various different definitions of "fine" and "for me"): 1. CentOS 6.4 2. KDE Neon 5.25 3. Kubuntu 21.10 CentOS 6.4 is *VERY* old and no longer supported and thus *NOT* recommended, but strangely, out of the three, I prefer it the most. It's user interface is very snappy. Can't speak about how well (or how poorly?) the rest of the operating system behaves, since, with me not being a Linux user, I don't really give Linux much of a workout. I only use Linux to build and test Hercules with. Nothing else. KDE Neon 5.25 is okay, but it's user interface is kind of sluggish IMO. Maybe if it was running natively (instead of inside a VMware virtual machine) it might run better? Kubuntu 21.10 seems quite nice IMO. The speed of the user interface, while nowhere near that of CentOS, seems ever so slightly faster than Neon's. Haven't had any problems with any hardware with any of them, but then, as I said I'm running them inside a Windows VMware virtual machine too. I also can't say much about VM/370 CE either, since I don't really use it. And finally, I can't say ANYTHING AT ALL about Hercules 3.x(**), it being a completely stone cold fucking DEAD product, and am continually amazed there as people that still insist on using it. </std disclaimer> Does that help any? :) -------------------- (*) You and everyone else knows me: I'm a Windows person, NOT a Linux person. So take everything I say about Linux with a grain of salt. (**) There nothing (that I am aware of!) that Hercules 3.x can do that SDL Hyperion Hercules 4.4.1 cannot do better, and MUCH of what Hercules 3.x does that's done wrong/incorrectly that SDL Hyperion Hercules 4.4.1 does CORRECTLY. (Herc 3.x contains bugs galore which have all since been corrected in 4.x+) There's really no reason IMO for anyone continuing to run 3.x. None. Nada. Zero. Zip. Zilch. -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
Hello all,
I'm taking a break from Windows and trying to resurrect my old work laptop that used to run Windows XP.? I have a Dell Precision M90 with 4gbs and a NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500M graphics card.? All of the last 4 version of Linux Mint Cinnamon fail to support the card (surprise!).? I'm now trying Ubuntu 22.04 with some success although the display is sometimes fragmented.? If I go to a different function and then return, the screen refreshes correctly.
While I'm at it, I found Hercules Studio 1.5 and Hercules 3.13 along with X3270.? I'm trying to get it to work with VM/370 CE 1.3 to no avail (HHCP011I CPU0000 Disabled wait state PSW=000A000 00000017).? VMCE works fine on my Windows system with HercGUI and Hyperion 4.4.1.
Any suggestions on a distro for my laptop and/or VMCE?
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Re: Automatic generation of transcoding tables for IND$FILE
#rexx
#VMCE
Sometimes I can be sooo very dense ... Tried this on tty.livingcomputers,org:24
Ready; T=0.05/0.07 17:04:44
?l
PROFILE? EXEC???? A1
LASTING? GLOBALV? A1
REXXSTUB EXEC???? A1
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:04:50
?type rexxstub exec a
?
/*
?
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:05:01
?rexxstub
???? 1 +++ /*
Error 6 running REXXSTUB EXEC, line 1: Unmatched "/*" or quote
Ready(20006); T=0.01/0.01 17:05:07
?rexxstub 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
???? 1 +++ /*
Error 6 running REXXSTUB EXEC, line 1: Unmatched "/*" or quote
Ready(20006); T=0.01/0.01 17:05:28
?q cmslevel
VM/SP Release 5, Service Level 521
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:05:42
?q cplevel
VM/SP RELEASE 5, SERVICE LEVEL 521
GENERATED AT 07/05/22 18:21:59 PDT
IPL AT 08/18/22 14:08:48 PDT
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:05:46
?identify
GUEST4?? AT LCML4381 VIA MIRROR?? 09/17/22 17:05:52 PDT????? SATURDAY
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:05:52
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Re: Automatic generation of transcoding tables for IND$FILE
#rexx
#VMCE
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 05:09 PM, Martin Scheffler wrote:
These are two different issues: there is no PARSE instruction in this dummy EXEC
type rexxstub exec
/*
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 19:09:23
Is this, then a malformed REXX program? Since the comment is not terminated? ?... Mark S.
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Re: Automatic generation of transcoding tables for IND$FILE
#rexx
#VMCE
These are two different issues: there is no PARSE instruction in this dummy EXEC
type rexxstub exec
/*
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 19:09:23
rexxstub 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Invalid character ' ' in fileID ' VSXSTUB EXEC'.
Error 58 running "¡Á³Õ²õ³æ²õ³Ù³Ü²ú": File not found
ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted.
Ready(00012); T=0.01/0.03 19:12:00????????????????????????????????????????
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Re: Automatic generation of transcoding tables for IND$FILE
#rexx
#VMCE
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 02:23 PM, Martin Scheffler wrote:
Actually i have run into a bug that a CMS EXEC in REXX cannot have many blank-delimited arguments,
i am still researching this before posting an issue on Github. The string "CvG" is arbitrary.
bREXX does not even start and you can use a dummy file (only "/* inside) to get this bug.
I have identifiedthe same bug in CMS BREXX and it's parsing of command line arguments, and the problem is recorded here ... I Hope This Helps ?... Mark S.
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Issue #83: Errors with more than 7 arguments given to REXX EXECs, bREXX does not even start
#github
#VMCE
#rexx
I have run into a bug that a CMS EXEC in REXX cannot have many blank-delimited arguments,
bREXX does not even start. The string "CvG" is arbitrary.
See .
You can use a dummy file (only "/*" inside) to get this bug.
See the examples below with 7, 8 and 9 arguments.
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Re: Automatic generation of transcoding tables for IND$FILE
#rexx
#VMCE
Is this designed to run on MS Windows?
Do I need ooRexx, Regina, or other distribution of Rexx?
It is one single REXX source file that detects its environment and acts accordingly. It is stlil Work In Progress, but test results are very promising. I have tested it successfully on following platforms: ? EBCDIC side ??? VM/370 CE - CMS with bREXX ? ASCII side ??? KEDIT for Windows (Windows 10 GUI) ?? THE (The Hessling Editor) (Windows 10 TUI) ?? REXX-Regina standalone (Windows 10 TUI) ?? REXX-ooRexx standalone (Windows 10 TUI) Since a CMS version has shown to be feasable, it is not necessary any more to have REXX available on the ASCII side. Actually i have run into a bug that a CMS EXEC in REXX cannot have many blank-delimited arguments, i am still researching this before posting an issue on Github. The string "CvG" is arbitrary. bREXX does not even start and you can use a dummy file (only "/* inside) to get this bug. Ready; T=0.01/0.01 18:45:58?????????????????????????????????????????????
INDmap 819/037v2 fn_in_1 ft_in_1 fm fn_in_2 ft_in_2 fm fn_out ft_out fm ?
Error 58 running "CvG": File not found????????????????????????????????? ?
ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted.? ?
Ready(00012); T=0.01/0.02 18:46:41
INDmap 819/037v2 fn_in_1 ft_in_1 fm fn_in_2 ft_in_2 fm fn_out ft_out fm
Error 58 running "BVG": File not found
ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted.
Ready(00012); T=0.02/0.02 18:55:18
INDmap 819/037v2 fn_in_1 ft_in_1 fm fn_in_2 ft_in_2 fm fn_out ft_out fm
Invalid character '?' in fileID 'B?G EXEC'.
Error 58 running "B G": File not found
ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted.
Ready(00012); T=0.01/0.01 18:55:44
type rexxstub exec
/*
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 19:09:23
rexxstub 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
???? 1 *-* /*
Error 6.1 running rexxstub, line 1: Unmatched comment delimiter ("/*")
Ready(20006); T=0.01/0.01 19:09:56
rexxstub 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
???? 1 *-* /*
Error 6.1 running rexxstub, line 1: Unmatched comment delimiter ("/*")
ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted.
Ready(00012); T=0.01/0.01 19:10:24
rexxstub 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Invalid character '{' in fileID '{VSXSTUB EXEC'.
Error 58 running "{vsxstub": File not found
ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted.
Ready(00012); T=0.01/0.01 19:10:59
rexxstub 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Invalid character ' ' in fileID ' VSXSTUB EXEC'.
Error 58 running "¡Á³Õ²õ³æ²õ³Ù³Ü²ú": File not found
ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted.
Ready(00012); T=0.01/0.03 19:12:00
q cmslevel??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
VM/370 CMS Community Edition Version 1 Release 1.2??????????????????? ?
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 19:19:00?????????????????????????????????????????? ?
q cplevel???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
SYSTEM 4381-A???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
VM/370 Community Edition Version? 1 Release? 1.2 07/19/22 13:20:46??? ?
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 19:19:12?????????????????????????????????????????? ?
identify????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
MECAFF?? AT VM370CE? VIA RSCS???? 19:19:23 09/17/22 GMT???? SATURDAY? ?
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 19:19:23?????????????????????????????????????????? ?
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Re: Possible bug in BREXX parse instruction
Hi Bob, Hi Mark,
Shit, I totally forgot about this topic.? I'll look at it tomorrow, I promise.?
Mike Mark A. Stevens via <marXtevens= [email protected]> schrieb am Sa. 17. Sept. 2022 um 17:51:
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 08:43 AM, Mike Gro?mann wrote:
Hey ¡.
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I will check the MVS version on weekend.?
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Sorry for the delay.?
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Mike
Mike,
Were you able to determine if the bug exists in the MVS version of BREXX? Did I miss that answer?
Bob,
You built a debugging version of BREXX for VM/370 CE, but I haven't figured out how to use it/turn it on, to see what is going on in the VM/370 version.
?... Mark S.
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Re: Possible bug in BREXX parse instruction
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 08:43 AM, Mike Gro?mann wrote:
Hey ¡.
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I will check the MVS version on weekend.?
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Sorry for the delay.?
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Mike
Mike, Were you able to determine if the bug exists in the MVS version of BREXX? Did I miss that answer? Bob, You built a debugging version of BREXX for VM/370 CE, but I haven't figured out how to use it/turn it on, to see what is going on in the VM/370 version. ?... Mark S.
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Re: Automatic generation of transcoding tables for IND$FILE
#rexx
#VMCE
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 12:06 PM, Martin Scheffler wrote:
How to use it ?
Maybe I haven't had enough coffee, yet. Is this designed to run on MS Windows? Do I need ooRexx, Regina, or other distribution of Rexx? I can share some code for parsing the command line for filenames, if that would help. ?... Mark S.
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Re: Automatic generation of transcoding tables for IND$FILE
#rexx
#VMCE
Work In Progress: support for CMS, first successful tests. Generated tables are almost identical, files differ in minor things. This means it is not necessary any more to have REXX available on the ASCII side. See Screenhot. How to use it ? ?1) Make sure that Hercules "codepage 819/1047" is in effect ?2) Make sure that "DEFAULT IND$MAP A" is empty (comments only) ?3) Use IND$FILE to transfer "EBCDIC MEMO Y" from CMS to the ASCII side ?4) Transfer back to CMS this very file by reader or tape, set "codepage 819/1047" where needed ?5) Remove unwanted header lines (if any) and save file to "EBCDIC MEMO A1" ?6) Run "INDMAP EXEC", output is written to "EBCDIC IND$MAP A1" This preliminary version does not process command line arguments yet, file names are fixed: ?input 1 = "EBCDIC MEMO Y" ?input 2 = "EBCDIC MEMO A" ?output = "EBCDIC IND$MAP A1" No other code pages than 819/1047 are supported now.
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Re: Automatic generation of transcoding tables for IND$FILE
#rexx
#VMCE
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 07:24 PM, Martin Scheffler wrote:
Work In Progress: support for THE (The Hessling Editor), first successful tests. Generated tables are identical, files differ in comments only (date/time, tools).
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