Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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Mark, Which file do you need? Always prepared to have look Dave ?
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Subject: Re: [h390-vm] GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk? #VMCE? On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:06 AM, Bob Bolch wrote: Compile a C program that includes something from this disk, with the CMS option, and you will see that the include files are processed.
Bob,
I am missing a header, which started this entire journey. Plus side, I know more than I started with. Minus side, I need to port the missing header file to CMS.
Thank you!
?... Mark S.
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:05 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
The CMS headers are the ones on GCCCMS 202 disk. These are what are used when you compile something with GCC and specify the CMS library option.
(well assuming you are not logged on to maint and have the 394 accessed)
Dave, The minidisk is released, after my attempted compile, and I didn't know what was, or was not available. This kicked off the search, which turned into this chain of messages. Thanks for your help. ?... Mark S.
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:06 AM, Bob Bolch wrote:
Compile a C program that includes something from this disk, with the CMS option, and you will see that the include files are processed.
Bob, I am missing a header, which started this entire journey. Plus side, I know more than I started with. Minus side, I need to port the missing header file to CMS. Thank you! ?... Mark S.
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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Hi Mark, I setup the MAINTC disks for the purpose of building the C runtime, and BREXX.
You should use the GCC user disks which the compiler accesses during the compilation. When the CMS option is specified, the GCCCMS 202 is used for the compilation. You do not need to manually access it.?
Compile a C program that includes something from this disk, with the CMS option, and you will see that the include files are processed.
Bob
On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 11:40 AM Mark A. Stevens via <marXtevens= [email protected]> wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 05:19 AM, Bob Bolch wrote:
GCCCMS 201 minidisk is accessed when the OS parameter is specified.
GCCCMS 202 minidisk is accessed when the CMS parameter is specified.
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Do those disks contain the H files you are looking for?
Bob,
I am more interested in the CMS emulation/headers than OS, at this instant.
It seems that MAINTC 394 (see the reply to Dave) and GCCCMS 202 contain same/similar files.
I will make time to compare and see if they are identical, and report back, if you wish.
q disk f
Label? CUU M? Stat? Cyl Type Blksize?? Files? Blks Used-(%) Blks Left? Blk Total
GCCLIB 122 F/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 23??????? 355-06?????? 5345?????? 5700
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:24:53
l * h f ( date
Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time
ASSERT?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 25????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40
CMSRUNTM H??????? F2? V?? 106??? 218???? 16? 03/23/21??? 8:13
CMSSYS?? H??????? F2? V?? 108??? 862???? 89? 04/14/21?? 11:40
CTYPE??? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 62????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
ERRNO??? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 64????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
FLOAT??? H??????? F2? V??? 75??? 127????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40
GCCCRAB? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 68????? 4? 03/23/21??? 7:07
LIMITS?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 49????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
LOCALE?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 49????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
MATH???? H??????? F2? V??? 71??? 113????? 4? 04/14/21?? 11:40
REXXSAA? H??????? F2? V??? 81??? 162???? 11? 04/14/21?? 11:40
SETJMP?? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 42????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40
SIGNAL?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 33????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STDARG?? H??????? F2? V??? 73???? 22????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STDDEF?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 38????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STDIO??? H??????? F2? V?? 100??? 782???? 81? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STDLIB?? H??????? F2? V?? 100??? 381???? 20? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STRING?? H??????? F2? V??? 73??? 173????? 9? 04/14/21?? 11:40
TIME???? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 65????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
TSTS???? H??????? F2? V?? 125???? 98????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:25:00
Again, if I can help, please let me know.
?... Mark S.
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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Mark, ? The CMS headers are the ones on GCCCMS 202 disk. These are what are used when you compile something with GCC and specify the CMS library option. (well assuming you are not logged on to maint and have the 394 accessed) ? Harold, ? I don’t think there is comprehensive documentation anywhere. Paul keeps everything on windows and copies it to VM when he wants to do a compile hence all the stuff in the batch directory. The fact that we have two totally independent C libraries makes a mess of things. ? Dave ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark A. Stevens via groups.io
Sent: 07 December 2021 16:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk? #VMCE? On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 05:19 AM, Bob Bolch wrote: GCCCMS 201 minidisk is accessed when the OS parameter is specified. GCCCMS 202 minidisk is accessed when the CMS parameter is specified. Do those disks contain the H files you are looking for?
Bob,
I am more interested in the CMS emulation/headers than OS, at this instant.
It seems that MAINTC 394 (see the reply to Dave) and GCCCMS 202 contain same/similar files.
I will make time to compare and see if they are identical, and report back, if you wish.
q disk f
Label? CUU M? Stat? Cyl Type Blksize?? Files? Blks Used-(%) Blks Left? Blk Total
GCCLIB 122 F/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 23??????? 355-06?????? 5345?????? 5700
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:24:53
l * h f ( date
Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time
ASSERT?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 25????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40
CMSRUNTM H??????? F2? V?? 106??? 218???? 16? 03/23/21??? 8:13
CMSSYS?? H??????? F2? V?? 108??? 862???? 89? 04/14/21?? 11:40
CTYPE??? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 62????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
ERRNO??? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 64????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
FLOAT??? H??????? F2? V??? 75??? 127????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40
GCCCRAB? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 68????? 4? 03/23/21??? 7:07
LIMITS?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 49????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
LOCALE?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 49????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
MATH???? H??????? F2? V??? 71??? 113????? 4? 04/14/21?? 11:40
REXXSAA? H??????? F2? V??? 81??? 162???? 11? 04/14/21?? 11:40
SETJMP?? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 42????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40
SIGNAL?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 33????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STDARG?? H??????? F2? V??? 73???? 22????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STDDEF?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 38????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STDIO??? H??????? F2? V?? 100??? 782???? 81? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STDLIB?? H??????? F2? V?? 100??? 381???? 20? 04/14/21?? 11:40
STRING?? H??????? F2? V??? 73??? 173????? 9? 04/14/21?? 11:40
TIME???? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 65????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40
TSTS???? H??????? F2? V?? 125???? 98????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:25:00
Again, if I can help, please let me know.
?... Mark S.
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 05:19 AM, Bob Bolch wrote:
GCCCMS 201 minidisk is accessed when the OS parameter is specified.
GCCCMS 202 minidisk is accessed when the CMS parameter is specified.
?
Do those disks contain the H files you are looking for?
Bob,I am more interested in the CMS emulation/headers than OS, at this instant.It seems that MAINTC 394 (see the reply to Dave) and GCCCMS 202 contain same/similar files.I will make time to compare and see if they are identical, and report back, if you wish.q disk fLabel? CUU M? Stat? Cyl Type Blksize?? Files? Blks Used-(%) Blks Left? Blk TotalGCCLIB 122 F/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 23??????? 355-06?????? 5345?????? 5700Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:24:53l * h f ( dateFilename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? TimeASSERT?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 25????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40CMSRUNTM H??????? F2? V?? 106??? 218???? 16? 03/23/21??? 8:13CMSSYS?? H??????? F2? V?? 108??? 862???? 89? 04/14/21?? 11:40CTYPE??? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 62????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40ERRNO??? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 64????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40FLOAT??? H??????? F2? V??? 75??? 127????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40GCCCRAB? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 68????? 4? 03/23/21??? 7:07LIMITS?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 49????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40LOCALE?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 49????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40MATH???? H??????? F2? V??? 71??? 113????? 4? 04/14/21?? 11:40REXXSAA? H??????? F2? V??? 81??? 162???? 11? 04/14/21?? 11:40SETJMP?? H??????? F2? V?? 100???? 42????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40SIGNAL?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 33????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40STDARG?? H??????? F2? V??? 73???? 22????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40STDDEF?? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 38????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40STDIO??? H??????? F2? V?? 100??? 782???? 81? 04/14/21?? 11:40STDLIB?? H??????? F2? V?? 100??? 381???? 20? 04/14/21?? 11:40STRING?? H??????? F2? V??? 73??? 173????? 9? 04/14/21?? 11:40TIME???? H??????? F2? V??? 71???? 65????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40TSTS???? H??????? F2? V?? 125???? 98????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:25:00Again, if I can help, please let me know.?... Mark S.
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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There seems to be a lot of confusion about how various header files are
included in compiles. I am certainly not an expert in GCC on VM, C
library options, or CMS itself.
But, the discussion begs the question: Is there a complete list of
which disks / modules / etc that documents the _present_ structure?
Everyone seems to see a piece of the problem not the entire structure.
Such a list might point to how it could be improved.
Just a thought,
Harold Grovesteen
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On Tue, 2021-12-07 at 10:06 +0000, Dave Wade wrote: Mark,
Well the mess is there BECAUSE there are two sets of “.h” files and
CMS does not have a directory structure.
So the production GCC EXEC accesses the GCCCMS disks that contain the
“.h” files that match the library you have selected PDPCLIB or GCCLIB
There are two ways to fix this. One would be to change the GCC
compiler so you could specify which disks it searched for “.h” files.
The other would be to modify the compiler so it could read “.h” files
from emulated OS Partitioned Data Sets as I think the IBM compiler
does.
Neither seem attractive, but what I would think could be done is to
fix the help that’s returned by “HELP GCC (MORE” to explain what is
happening and why.
Its needs fixing anyway, its also wrong:-(
Dave
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 04:06 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
There are two ways to fix this. One would be to change the GCC compiler so you could specify which disks it searched for “.h” files.
The other would be to modify the compiler so it could read “.h” files from emulated OS Partitioned Data Sets as I think the IBM compiler does.
?
Neither seem attractive, but what I would think could be done is to fix the help that’s returned by “HELP GCC (MORE” to explain what is happening and why.
?
Its needs fixing anyway, its also wrong:-(
Dave,Thanks for the additional explanation. I did find *.h files which seem to emulate/imitate/replace those from /usr/include/*.h files on MAINTC 394.My two cents on minidisk vs MACLIB would be minidisk, until we can get OS PDS emulation/management. The lack of a directory structure does make this a challenge, either way.q disk fLabel? CUU M? Stat? Cyl Type Blksize?? Files? Blks Used-(%) Blks Left? Blk TotalMNT394 122 F/C R/O?? 50 3350? 800???????? 87?????? 1998-07????? 26502????? 28500Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:17:40l * h f ( dateFilename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? TimeASSERT?? H??????? F1? V??? 71???? 25????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40CMSRUNTM H??????? F1? V?? 106??? 218???? 16? 03/23/21??? 8:13CMSSYS?? H??????? F1? V?? 108??? 862???? 89? 04/14/21?? 11:40CTYPE??? H??????? F1? V?? 100???? 62????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40ERRNO??? H??????? F1? V??? 71???? 64????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40FLOAT??? H??????? F1? V??? 75??? 127????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40GCCCRAB? H??????? F1? V?? 100???? 68????? 4? 03/23/21??? 7:07LIMITS?? H??????? F1? V??? 71???? 49????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40LOCALE?? H??????? F1? V??? 71???? 49????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40MATH???? H??????? F1? V??? 71??? 113????? 4? 04/14/21?? 11:40REXXSAA? H??????? F1? V??? 81??? 162???? 11? 04/14/21?? 11:40SETJMP?? H??????? F1? V?? 100???? 42????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40SIGNAL?? H??????? F1? V??? 71???? 33????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40STDARG?? H??????? F1? V??? 73???? 22????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40STDDEF?? H??????? F1? V??? 71???? 38????? 2? 04/14/21?? 11:40STDIO??? H??????? F1? V?? 100??? 782???? 81? 04/14/21?? 11:40STDLIB?? H??????? F1? V?? 100??? 381???? 20? 04/14/21?? 11:40STRING?? H??????? F1? V??? 73??? 173????? 9? 04/14/21?? 11:40TIME???? H??????? F1? V??? 71???? 65????? 3? 04/14/21?? 11:40TSTS???? H??????? F1? V?? 125???? 98????? 5? 04/14/21?? 11:40Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:17:49If I can help, let me know, and I will do what I can.
?... Mark S.
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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Hi Mark,
I only use GCC to build BREXX, so I am not sure of some of the details. Dave and I will try to provide more details in the help files. I do know that the GCC EXEC on the Y-disk accesses the set of H files as follows:
GCCCMS 201 minidisk is accessed when the OS parameter is specified. GCCCMS 202 minidisk is accessed when the CMS parameter is specified.
Do those disks contain the H files you are looking for?
Bob
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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Mark, ? Well the mess is there BECAUSE there are two sets of “.h” files and CMS does not have a directory structure. So the production GCC EXEC accesses the GCCCMS disks that contain the “.h” files that match the library you have selected PDPCLIB or GCCLIB ? There are two ways to fix this. One would be to change the GCC compiler so you could specify which disks it searched for “.h” files. The other would be to modify the compiler so it could read “.h” files from emulated OS Partitioned Data Sets as I think the IBM compiler does. ? Neither seem attractive, but what I would think could be done is to fix the help that’s returned by “HELP GCC (MORE” to explain what is happening and why. ? Its needs fixing anyway, its also wrong:-( ? Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark A. Stevens via groups.io
Sent: 07 December 2021 01:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk? #VMCE? On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 06:11 AM, Bob Bolch wrote: The GCCCMS userID contains the compiler install materials, and there is nothing there that? an ordinary compiler user needs. Any changes made on that ID could impact the ability to regenerate the compiler. Everything you need to use the compiler is made available by the GCC? EXEC. The GCC EXEC also uses runtime libraries made for CMS that are maintained on the MAINTC ID. Please elaborate?on why you are logging on to GCCCMS. Maybe we can simplify the method you are using.
I was looking for the equivalent of /usr/include/*.h and /usr/include/sys/*.h? files, so I can build the Zlib program library, the basis for zip and unzip.
I wasn't logging on to GCCCMS, but using the MDISK entries from USER DIRECT to see what GCCCMS had.
In the process of searching, I happened to look for all the copies of GCC EXEC and thought I noticed a discrepancy. :-D I have yet to read through the GCC EXEC S, code. So much to do, and so little time, but I have a need to know what header files are available for a compile, so of all the places I could pick, I started with GCCCMS and its minidisks.
I didn't know about MAINTC, so I will also look there.
I don't consider myself just a compiler user, since I have written and installed applications, for "general users" over the years for both VM/* and for *nix.
I also don't consider myself an expert, more of the "Jack of all trades, master of none" sort.
Thank you very much for the pointers.
?... Mark S.
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Marco Antoniotti wrote: any chances of removing the win32.mak dependency?
It would simplify the process. I'm looking into it. -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Hi
any chances of removing the win32.mak dependency?
It would simplify the process.
All the best
Marco
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 06:11 AM, Bob Bolch wrote:
The GCCCMS userID contains the compiler install materials, and there is nothing there that?
an ordinary compiler user needs. Any changes made on that ID could impact the ability to
regenerate the compiler. Everything you need to use the compiler is made available by the GCC?
EXEC. The GCC EXEC also uses runtime libraries made for CMS that are maintained on
the MAINTC ID. Please elaborate?on why you are logging on to GCCCMS. Maybe we can
simplify the method you are using.
I was looking for the equivalent of /usr/include/*.h and /usr/include/sys/*.h? files, so I can build the Zlib program library, the basis for zip and unzip. I wasn't logging on to GCCCMS, but using the MDISK entries from USER DIRECT to see what GCCCMS had. In the process of searching, I happened to look for all the copies of GCC EXEC and thought I noticed a discrepancy. :-D I have yet to read through the GCC EXEC S, code. So much to do, and so little time, but I have a need to know what header files are available for a compile, so of all the places I could pick, I started with GCCCMS and its minidisks. I didn't know about MAINTC, so I will also look there. I don't consider myself just a compiler user, since I have written and installed applications, for "general users" over the years for both VM/* and for *nix. I also don't consider myself an expert, more of the "Jack of all trades, master of none" sort. Thank you very much for the pointers. ?... Mark S.
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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Hi Mark,
The GCCCMS userID contains the compiler install materials, and there is nothing there that? an ordinary compiler user needs. Any changes made on that ID could impact the ability to regenerate the compiler. Everything you need to use the compiler is made available by the GCC? EXEC. The GCC EXEC also uses runtime libraries made for CMS that are maintained on the MAINTC ID. Please elaborate?on why you are logging on to GCCCMS. Maybe we can simplify the method you are using.
Best regards, Bob
Mark, ? Probably because GCC EXEC on GCCCMS is the one Paul supplies with the base GCC. He knows nothing of GCCLIB so it would probably get in the way of his build process. Possibly there should be a copy there, but I am not sure it works on the GCCCMS ID because of the way it links and accesses the include files. ? Dave ? ? This might be for Bob Bolch ...
I'm trying to understand too many things, but in any case I end up with the following question. Why does the GCC EXEC S not exist on the GCCCMS minidisks?
When I have the disks accessed as below. The bolded ones are all the GCCCMS minidisks.
Label? CUU M? Stat? Cyl Type Blksize?? Files? Blks Used-(%) Blks Left? Blk Total
XMAS91 191 A?? R/W?? 30 3350? 800???????? 18?????? 4051-24????? 13049????? 17100
MNT5E5 5E5 B/B R/O?? 30 3350? 800???????? 11??????? 119-01????? 16981????? 17100
GCC191 120 C?? R/W? 100 3350? 800????????? 7??????? 669-01????? 56331????? 57000
XMAS92 192 D?? R/W?? 30 3350? 800??????? 213?????? 7065-41????? 10035????? 17100
PDPCLB 121 E/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 17???????? 95-02?????? 5605?????? 5700
GCCLIB 122 F/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 23??????? 355-06?????? 5345?????? 5700
GCC291 123 G/C R/O? 115 3350? 800???????? 32????? 12303-19????? 53228????? 65531
GCC391 124 H/C R/O? 115 3350? 800????????? 0????????? 5-00????? 65526????? 65531
GCC491 125 I/C R/O? 115 3350? 800????????? 0????????? 5-00????? 65526????? 65531
GCC591 126 J/C R/O?? 34 3350? 800???????? 84????? 13730-71?????? 5650????? 19380
GCC691 127 K/C R/O?? 45 3350? 800??????? 537????? 19340-75?????? 6310????? 25650
GCC791 128 L/C R/O?? 64 3350? 800??????? 184????? 23041-63????? 13439????? 36480
GCC891 129 M/C R/O?? 40 3350? 800??????? 120?????? 3607-16????? 19193????? 22800
MYTOOL 193 R/R R/O?? 30 3350? 800??????? 185?????? 1217-07????? 15883????? 17100
CMSDSK 190 S?? R/O?? 59 3350? 800??????? 172????? 19533-58????? 14097????? 33630
VMTOOL 196 T/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800???????? 29?????? 1860-05????? 38040????? 39900
MNT19D 19D U/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800??????? 397?????? 5296-13????? 34604????? 39900
MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800??????? 682????? 24651-62????? 15249????? 39900
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:16:01
When I look for all the GCC EXEC files, I get the following. Shouldn't The S-disk version also be on one of the GCCCMS minidisks?
l gcc exec * ( date
Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time
GCC????? EXEC???? J1? V??? 78??? 253????? 8? 06/26/09?? 22:45
GCC????? EXEC???? K1? V??? 78??? 253????? 8? 06/26/09?? 22:45
GCC????? EXEC???? Y2? V??? 79??? 272???? 10? 08/03/10?? 19:53
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:28:34
Granted my minidisk layout doesn't match, by filemode, the files GCCCMS MEMO.
type gcccms memo c
?
Disk layout for GCCCMS userid February 2021
?
191 A - work disk
291 B - GCC compiler version 3.2.3 MVS 8.5 from 2011
391 C - currently empty
491 D - currently empty
591 E - GCC compiler version 3.2.3 MVS 7.0 from 2009
691 F - GCC & PDPCLIB from 2009? source only
791 G - S, C and H files associated with stuff on F disk?
891 H - GCCLIB version 1.3.1.
?
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:33:12
If the 291 minidisk, is the current, production minidisk for VM/370 CE, then should not a copy of GCC EXEC S be on that minidisk as well?
Yours in confusion,
?... Mark S.
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Looks like attachments are off as well
Dave
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Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Visual studio 2022
Peter wrote:
Fish wrote:
laddiehanus wrote:
I installed all the SDK’s including the on for XP Did it look like this? [...]
I don’t know what kind of picture you sent, but it did not come
through in email , nor on the groups.io website either (at least not
for me). (grumble) That's what I get for trying to send HTML email I guess (grumble)
Let me try attaching it instead.
--
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Peter wrote: Fish wrote:
laddiehanus wrote:
I installed all the SDK’s including the on for XP Did it look like this? [...] I don’t know what kind of picture you sent, but it did not come
through in email , nor on the groups.io website either (at least
not for me). (grumble) That's what I get for trying to send HTML email I guess (grumble) Let me try attaching it instead. -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Fish, ? I don’t know what kind of picture you sent, but it did not come through in email , nor on the groups.io website either (at least not for me). ? Peter ?
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Re: GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
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Mark, ? Probably because GCC EXEC on GCCCMS is the one Paul supplies with the base GCC. He knows nothing of GCCLIB so it would probably get in the way of his build process. Possibly there should be a copy there, but I am not sure it works on the GCCCMS ID because of the way it links and accesses the include files. ? Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark A. Stevens via groups.io
Sent: 06 December 2021 03:40
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Subject: [h390-vm] GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk? #VMCE? This might be for Bob Bolch ...
I'm trying to understand too many things, but in any case I end up with the following question. Why does the GCC EXEC S not exist on the GCCCMS minidisks?
When I have the disks accessed as below. The bolded ones are all the GCCCMS minidisks.
Label? CUU M? Stat? Cyl Type Blksize?? Files? Blks Used-(%) Blks Left? Blk Total
XMAS91 191 A?? R/W?? 30 3350? 800???????? 18?????? 4051-24????? 13049????? 17100
MNT5E5 5E5 B/B R/O?? 30 3350? 800???????? 11??????? 119-01????? 16981????? 17100
GCC191 120 C?? R/W? 100 3350? 800????????? 7??????? 669-01????? 56331????? 57000
XMAS92 192 D?? R/W?? 30 3350? 800??????? 213?????? 7065-41????? 10035????? 17100
PDPCLB 121 E/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 17???????? 95-02?????? 5605?????? 5700
GCCLIB 122 F/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 23??????? 355-06?????? 5345?????? 5700
GCC291 123 G/C R/O? 115 3350? 800???????? 32????? 12303-19????? 53228????? 65531
GCC391 124 H/C R/O? 115 3350? 800????????? 0????????? 5-00????? 65526????? 65531
GCC491 125 I/C R/O? 115 3350? 800????????? 0????????? 5-00????? 65526????? 65531
GCC591 126 J/C R/O?? 34 3350? 800???????? 84????? 13730-71?????? 5650????? 19380
GCC691 127 K/C R/O?? 45 3350? 800??????? 537????? 19340-75?????? 6310????? 25650
GCC791 128 L/C R/O?? 64 3350? 800??????? 184????? 23041-63????? 13439????? 36480
GCC891 129 M/C R/O?? 40 3350? 800??????? 120?????? 3607-16????? 19193????? 22800
MYTOOL 193 R/R R/O?? 30 3350? 800??????? 185?????? 1217-07????? 15883????? 17100
CMSDSK 190 S?? R/O?? 59 3350? 800??????? 172????? 19533-58????? 14097????? 33630
VMTOOL 196 T/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800???????? 29?????? 1860-05????? 38040????? 39900
MNT19D 19D U/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800??????? 397?????? 5296-13????? 34604????? 39900
MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800??????? 682????? 24651-62????? 15249????? 39900
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:16:01
When I look for all the GCC EXEC files, I get the following. Shouldn't The S-disk version also be on one of the GCCCMS minidisks?
l gcc exec * ( date
Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time
GCC????? EXEC???? J1? V??? 78??? 253????? 8? 06/26/09?? 22:45
GCC????? EXEC???? K1? V??? 78??? 253????? 8? 06/26/09?? 22:45
GCC????? EXEC???? Y2? V??? 79??? 272???? 10? 08/03/10?? 19:53
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:28:34
Granted my minidisk layout doesn't match, by filemode, the files GCCCMS MEMO.
type gcccms memo c
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Disk layout for GCCCMS userid February 2021
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191 A - work disk
291 B - GCC compiler version 3.2.3 MVS 8.5 from 2011
391 C - currently empty
491 D - currently empty
591 E - GCC compiler version 3.2.3 MVS 7.0 from 2009
691 F - GCC & PDPCLIB from 2009? source only
791 G - S, C and H files associated with stuff on F disk?
891 H - GCCLIB version 1.3.1.
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Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:33:12
If the 291 minidisk, is the current, production minidisk for VM/370 CE, then should not a copy of GCC EXEC S be on that minidisk as well?
Yours in confusion,
?... Mark S.
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GCC EXEC on S-disk, but Not On Any Other Minidisk?
#VMCE
This might be for Bob Bolch ...
I'm trying to understand too many things, but in any case I end up with the following question. Why does the GCC EXEC S not exist on the GCCCMS minidisks?
When I have the disks accessed as below. The bolded ones are all the GCCCMS minidisks.
Label? CUU M? Stat? Cyl Type Blksize?? Files? Blks Used-(%) Blks Left? Blk Total
XMAS91 191 A?? R/W?? 30 3350? 800???????? 18?????? 4051-24????? 13049????? 17100
MNT5E5 5E5 B/B R/O?? 30 3350? 800???????? 11??????? 119-01????? 16981????? 17100
GCC191 120 C?? R/W? 100 3350? 800????????? 7??????? 669-01????? 56331????? 57000
XMAS92 192 D?? R/W?? 30 3350? 800??????? 213?????? 7065-41????? 10035????? 17100
PDPCLB 121 E/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 17???????? 95-02?????? 5605?????? 5700
GCCLIB 122 F/C R/O?? 10 3350? 800???????? 23??????? 355-06?????? 5345?????? 5700
GCC291 123 G/C R/O? 115 3350? 800???????? 32????? 12303-19????? 53228????? 65531
GCC391 124 H/C R/O? 115 3350? 800????????? 0????????? 5-00????? 65526????? 65531
GCC491 125 I/C R/O? 115 3350? 800????????? 0????????? 5-00????? 65526????? 65531
GCC591 126 J/C R/O?? 34 3350? 800???????? 84????? 13730-71?????? 5650????? 19380
GCC691 127 K/C R/O?? 45 3350? 800??????? 537????? 19340-75?????? 6310????? 25650
GCC791 128 L/C R/O?? 64 3350? 800??????? 184????? 23041-63????? 13439????? 36480
GCC891 129 M/C R/O?? 40 3350? 800??????? 120?????? 3607-16????? 19193????? 22800
MYTOOL 193 R/R R/O?? 30 3350? 800??????? 185?????? 1217-07????? 15883????? 17100
CMSDSK 190 S?? R/O?? 59 3350? 800??????? 172????? 19533-58????? 14097????? 33630
VMTOOL 196 T/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800???????? 29?????? 1860-05????? 38040????? 39900
MNT19D 19D U/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800??????? 397?????? 5296-13????? 34604????? 39900
MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O?? 70 3350? 800??????? 682????? 24651-62????? 15249????? 39900
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:16:01
When I look for all the GCC EXEC files, I get the following. Shouldn't The S-disk version also be on one of the GCCCMS minidisks?
l gcc exec * ( date
Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time
GCC????? EXEC???? J1? V??? 78??? 253????? 8? 06/26/09?? 22:45
GCC????? EXEC???? K1? V??? 78??? 253????? 8? 06/26/09?? 22:45
GCC????? EXEC???? Y2? V??? 79??? 272???? 10? 08/03/10?? 19:53
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:28:34
Granted my minidisk layout doesn't match, by filemode, the files GCCCMS MEMO.
type gcccms memo c
?
Disk layout for GCCCMS userid February 2021
?
191 A - work disk
291 B - GCC compiler version 3.2.3 MVS 8.5 from 2011
391 C - currently empty
491 D - currently empty
591 E - GCC compiler version 3.2.3 MVS 7.0 from 2009
691 F - GCC & PDPCLIB from 2009? source only
791 G - S, C and H files associated with stuff on F disk?
891 H - GCCLIB version 1.3.1.
?
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 03:33:12
If the 291 minidisk, is the current, production minidisk for VM/370 CE, then should not a copy of GCC EXEC S be on that minidisk as well?
Yours in confusion,
?... Mark S.
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