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Re: Visual studio 2022

 

If you go to , and login... pick your group... then pick your message. Note: to edit, you MUST be signed in with the email you used to send the message.

At the bottom will be a "more" button...

When you click it, one of the options will be "edit message". Once you are done, then the edited message will be resent.

You can also delete a message...

Joe

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 5:36 PM Joe Monk via <joemonk64=[email protected]> wrote:
yes you can edit your messages.

Joe

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 5:23 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:

? ?Given that most use of is as a mailing list, rather than a
web forum, editing messages makes very little sense and annoys the
people who receive copy after copy of the same damn email with "[edited
message follows]" stuck to the top.

? ?Thinking of what you want to post before you post it addresses the
problem.

? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave

On 12/10/21 6:19 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
> Jesus Christ! You can't even EDIT your messages either?!? :(
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>> Instead, I have created a new GitHub Issue containing the patch.
>> You can download it from there.
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA






Re: Visual studio 2022

 

Well that's disappointing.

-Dave

On 12/10/21 6:35 PM, Joe Monk wrote:
yes you can edit your messages.
Joe
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 5:23 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@... <mailto:mcguire@...>> wrote:
? ?Given that most use of groups.io <> is as a
mailing list, rather than a
web forum, editing messages makes very little sense and annoys the
people who receive copy after copy of the same damn email with "[edited
message follows]" stuck to the top.
? ?Thinking of what you want to post before you post it addresses the
problem.
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On 12/10/21 6:19 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
> Jesus Christ! You can't even EDIT your messages either?!? :(
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>> Instead, I have created a new GitHub Issue containing the patch.
>> You can download it from there.
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Visual studio 2022

 

yes you can edit your messages.

Joe

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 5:23 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:

? ?Given that most use of is as a mailing list, rather than a
web forum, editing messages makes very little sense and annoys the
people who receive copy after copy of the same damn email with "[edited
message follows]" stuck to the top.

? ?Thinking of what you want to post before you post it addresses the
problem.

? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave

On 12/10/21 6:19 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
> Jesus Christ! You can't even EDIT your messages either?!? :(
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> Sheesh!? :(
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> Fine!
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> [...]
>> Instead, I have created a new GitHub Issue containing the patch.
>> You can download it from there.
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA






Re: Visual studio 2022

 

Dave Wade wrote:

[...]
You can upload it to the "files" area so those who want to
try it can download it. Attachments also count our storage
limit and are hard to manage.
(LOL!) Ummm... No comment. :))

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: Attachments

 

Dave Wade wrote:

Fish,
I set them to moderated. I don't see the notices.
You can upload to files
Dave
Patient: "Doctor! Doctor! It hurts when I do this!"
Doctor: "Then don't do that!"

Hint: Don't set them to moderated. Set them to ALLOW.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: Attachments

 

On 12/10/21 6:23 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
[...]
... so only those that want to see them
need to use bandwidth downloading them
In today's day and age you're worried about bandwidth? :)
If it was a multi-megabyte file I could maybe understand, but a 12.5 KB patch file? :)
You and I have gobs of bandwidth, but not everyone does. Part of being a good net.citizen is structuring your activities to not cause problems for other people by making sweeping assumptions about what they do and do not have.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Attachments

 

[...]
... so only those that want to see them
need to use bandwidth downloading them
In today's day and age you're worried about bandwidth? :)

If it was a multi-megabyte file I could maybe understand, but a 12.5 KB patch file? :)

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: Visual studio 2022

 

Given that most use of groups.io is as a mailing list, rather than a web forum, editing messages makes very little sense and annoys the people who receive copy after copy of the same damn email with "[edited message follows]" stuck to the top.

Thinking of what you want to post before you post it addresses the problem.

-Dave

On 12/10/21 6:19 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
Jesus Christ! You can't even EDIT your messages either?! :(
Sheesh! :(
Fine!
[...]
Instead, I have created a new GitHub Issue containing the patch.
You can download it from there.

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Visual studio 2022

 

Jesus Christ! You can't even EDIT your messages either?! :(

Sheesh! :(

Fine!

[...]
Instead, I have created a new GitHub Issue containing the patch.
You can download it from there.


Re: Visual studio 2022

 

Fish wrote:

[...]
If you can send me a private email offlist, I will be happy to
send it to you (or anyone else interested in trying it).
Forget that.

Instead, I have created a new GitHub Issue containing the patch. You can download it from there.

Thanks.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: Visual studio 2022

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish
Sent: 10 December 2021 22:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Visual studio 2022

Fish wrote:
Marco Antoniotti wrote:

any chances of removing the win32.mak dependency?

It would simplify the process.
I'm looking into it.
Marco,

I have a patch ready for you to try, but I cannot attach it since this group sadly
does not allow attachments. :(

If you can send me a private email offlist, I will be happy to send it to you (or
anyone else interested in trying it).
You can upload it to the "files" area so those who want to try it can download it.
Attachments also count our storage limit and are hard to manage.


Thanks.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...
Dave


Re: Attachments

 

Fish,
I set them to moderated. I don't see the notices.
You can upload to files
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish
Sent: 10 December 2021 22:31
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Attachments

Dave Wade wrote:

Folks,

I have disabled attachments as GMAIL seems to block anything any one
attaches.
Eh? Gmail certainly does not block all attachments. Only certain types of
attachments:


that-have-attachments

Yes, I admit that, as a software developer, Gmail not allowing one to attach
certain file types can certainly be incredibly annoying, but the point is, it
certainly does not block ALL attachments. Just *some*.

Besides that, not everyone USES gmail either. Those who do not use gmail
certainly wouldn't be blocked.

Members should be allowed to attach certain harmless types of files IMHO,
such as screen shots and .txt files containing JCL or log files, etc (or in my
case, .patch/.diff file).

But to broadly disallow ANY/ALL attachments for EVERYONE -- even those
who don't use gmail -- is ridiculous IMHO. That's extreme overkill IMHO.

There used to be an option in a Groups.IO group's administrative Settings
that an administrator could set to automatically strip attachments from all
messages and replace them with a clickable link instead, but they must have
changed things recently because I don't see that option anymore.

It does however still have a setting that ALLOWS attachments, and I for one
would like to respectfully request that you please reconsider your decision
regarding allowing attachments.


If you want to distribute files please use the files section on the
groups.io web site. Create a folder and store the files in it. There
is also a photos section for your pictures.
The file I want to attach is a small .patch file (a TEXT file) and is not (IMO)
appropriate for uploading to the files area. It's not meant to be a permanent
redistributable.

Yes, I could "inline" it in my message, but due to the way email clients format
messages (including Groups.IO itself), there's no guarantee the patch would
be formatted properly. Attaching it in this case is the (IMO) correct way for
dealing with such things.

Respectfully,
--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...








Re: Attachments

 

Because they cause lots of bounces. I set them to moderated and I fail to
see the notices.
You can upload to the files are so only those that want to see them need to
use bandwidth downloading them

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish
Sent: 10 December 2021 22:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] Attachments

Why doesn't this group permit attachments?

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...







Re: Visual studio 2022

 

Fish wrote:
Marco Antoniotti wrote:

any chances of removing the win32.mak dependency?

It would simplify the process.
I'm looking into it.
Marco,

I have a patch ready for you to try, but I cannot attach it since this group sadly does not allow attachments. :(

If you can send me a private email offlist, I will be happy to send it to you (or anyone else interested in trying it).

Thanks.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: Attachments

 

Dave Wade wrote:

Folks,

I have disabled attachments as GMAIL seems to block anything
any one attaches.
Eh? Gmail certainly does not block all attachments. Only certain types of attachments:



Yes, I admit that, as a software developer, Gmail not allowing one to attach certain file types can certainly be incredibly annoying, but the point is, it certainly does not block ALL attachments. Just *some*.

Besides that, not everyone USES gmail either. Those who do not use gmail certainly wouldn't be blocked.

Members should be allowed to attach certain harmless types of files IMHO, such as screen shots and .txt files containing JCL or log files, etc (or in my case, .patch/.diff file).

But to broadly disallow ANY/ALL attachments for EVERYONE -- even those who don't use gmail -- is ridiculous IMHO. That's extreme overkill IMHO.

There used to be an option in a Groups.IO group's administrative Settings that an administrator could set to automatically strip attachments from all messages and replace them with a clickable link instead, but they must have changed things recently because I don't see that option anymore.

It does however still have a setting that ALLOWS attachments, and I for one would like to respectfully request that you please reconsider your decision regarding allowing attachments.


If you want to distribute files please use the files section
on the groups.io web site. Create a folder and store the files
in it. There is also a photos section for your pictures.
The file I want to attach is a small .patch file (a TEXT file) and is not (IMO) appropriate for uploading to the files area. It's not meant to be a permanent redistributable.

Yes, I could "inline" it in my message, but due to the way email clients format messages (including Groups.IO itself), there's no guarantee the patch would be formatted properly. Attaching it in this case is the (IMO) correct way for dealing with such things.

Respectfully,
--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Attachments

 

Why doesn't this group permit attachments?

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: How to enter the cent sign using x3270 on a raspberry pi

 


I've sort of solved my problem - I typed a whole load of characters into a
text file on my Mac then copied them to my Pi and thence to VM. One of
them turned into a cent in CMS so I can now edit the EXEC on my Mac and
then transfer it to CMS. Thanks fr the help anyway.
It's really not that hard:

SET INPUT E0 4A
Ready; T=0.01/0.02 19:16:25
EDIT TEST EXEC
CASE M
INPUT &TYPE This is a cent sign: \
FILE
Ready; T=0.05/0.31 19:17:11
EXEC TEST
This is a cent sign: ?
Ready; T=0.01/0.04 19:17:29

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.


Re: How to enter the cent sign using x3270 on a raspberry pi

 

I've sort of solved my problem - I typed a whole load of characters into a text file on my Mac then copied them to my Pi and thence to VM. One of them turned into a cent in CMS so I can now edit the EXEC on my Mac and then transfer it to CMS. Thank
s fr the help anyway.


Re: How to enter the cent sign using x3270 on a raspberry pi

 


Thanks tor the advice but:
1. the SET INPUT works fine on the command line but doesn't work
within an editor where I need to insert ? (cent) characters into my
EXEC. x3270 doesn't offer a copy/paste option either.
It works in EDIT. Doesn't everyone use EDIT :-)

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.


Re: How to enter the cent sign using x3270 on a raspberry pi

 

Thanks tor the advice but:
1. the SET INPUT works fine on the command line but doesn't work within an editor where I need to insert ? (cent) characters into my EXEC. x3270 doesn't offer a copy/paste option either.
2. I can't get x3270 to find my keymap file. I've tried giving the full path in the -keymap option of x3270 but it says not found even though a ls command with the same full path does find it. I can't locate the base keyap file that x3270 uses either. When I select the 'display current keymap'? menu option it says:
? ?Keymap 'base', from resource x3270.keymap.base'
The linux find command can't seem to find the resource either.??