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Re: ZORK on VM/370 CE ... POSSIBLE?

 

The * should mean that the first file is found. I do not know the selection logic if the specs for the file, the "(RECFM?VBS?BLKSIZE??800?LRECL?9608??? " portion, does not match the actual specification of the existing file on disk if you use an "*".? It should work without the specification (as it seems to be in the correct format for Zork). Anyway, glad you have it working.
Re: ZORK on VM/370 CE ... POSSIBLE?

 

Got it to work.
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The issue was on the ZORK EXEC file.
I don't know why, but as soon as I replaced asterisk filemodes there (DISK FILEDEFs) and updated to the actual filemode of my games minidisk, zork came up!
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Thank you all.
Cheers.
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Alejandro Olivan.
Spain.
Re: XNET 1.5.0 on VM/370 CE 1.1.2

 

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 05:30 PM, Bob Polmanter wrote:
I've uploaded XNET 1.5.1 to the files section, which corrects the issue you identified.?
Installed the MODULE on all three systems and it is working well, This is from
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smsg xnet d tasks
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:32:48
XNET025 Task Status 14:32:48
TaskID ?Type Name ? ?Status ?Association
025118 ?CONS 009 ? ? ACTIVE
0252A8 ?NODE ? ? ? ? ACTIVE
0272F8 ?CTCA 500 ? ? ACTIVE ?VM370DEV XNET151
smsg xnet v 500 inact
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:33:36
smsg xnet v 500 act
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:33:45
XNET027 Dev 500 already started
smsg xnet d tasks
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:33:55
XNET025 Task Status 14:33:55
TaskID ?Type Name ? ?Status ?Association
025118 ?CONS 009 ? ? ACTIVE
0252A8 ?NODE ? ? ? ? ACTIVE
0272F8 ?CTCA 500 ? ? ACTIVE ?VM370DEV XNET151
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From the "host" system ...
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smsg xnet d tasks
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:32:48
XNET025 Task Status 14:32:48
TaskID ?Type Name ? ?Status ?Association
025118 ?CONS 009 ? ? ACTIVE
0252A8 ?NODE ? ? ? ? ACTIVE
0272F8 ?CTCA 500 ? ? ACTIVE ?VM370DEV XNET151
smsg xnet v 500 inact
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:33:36
smsg xnet v 500 act
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:33:45
XNET027 Dev 500 already started
smsg xnet d tasks
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:33:55
XNET025 Task Status 14:33:55
TaskID ?Type Name ? ?Status ?Association
025118 ?CONS 009 ? ? ACTIVE
0252A8 ?NODE ? ? ? ? ACTIVE
0272F8 ?CTCA 500 ? ? ACTIVE ?VM370DEV XNET151
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?... Mark S.
Re: Possible bug in EE & friends

 

Please continue discussion here: "EE goes XEDIT - testing new features" /g/h390-vm/topic/108730896#msg6374
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Martin
Re: EE goes XEDIT - testing new features #rexx #VMCE

 

I am testing a new bug fix to make EE handle large screen sizes without crashing. I have increased some old hard coded limits from 64 to 256. Further research has to be done if this limit could be set dynamically and checked against the actual screen size.
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On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 11:46 PM, William Denton wrote:
I seem to recall someone saying that the EE editor (& FS* tools) could support arbitrary size 327x displays. So, I thought I would give it a try...
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I used the same WC3270 config I use with my VM/ESA system -- 100 rows, 150 columns...
  • Small number of lines seems to work pretty well except sometimes, the screen is really messed up when exiting
  • Larger (>64 lines maybe) result in:
    DMSITP141T ADDRESSING EXCEPTION OCCURRED AT 055EA2 IN ROUTINE EE$D. ??
  • Other than seeing that this is 0x32 bytes into 'strlen' I have no clue how to go about chasing this down.
Should I be posting this issue someplace else?
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I have configured the ZOC (3270-)terminal emulator to 100 lines and 150 columns. The New EE crashed after scrolling a few pages. After increasing some hard coded limits, these crashes did not occur and there were no error messages on exit.
See below for GitHub details.
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On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 12:03 AM, Ren¨¦ Ferland wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 02:46 PM, William Denton wrote:
Should I be posting this issue someplace else?
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EE & friends are part of MECAFF, of which the binaries and sources were released to the public domain:
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I had forked this repository to . I have checked in the source code which is on the MECAFF user's CMS minidisks on VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 .
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Here you find all the changes I am doing to make EE more compatible to XEDIT :
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See and for progress of "" .
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Is there urgent need for a fast binary release just for testing large screen sizes ?
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Martin
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Re: ZORK on VM/370 CE ... POSSIBLE?

 

Hi again guys... happy 2025!
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Nice to have found those aws tapes with games on teh filesection :-) it's going to be fun giving them a try if I manage to make them to work!
Regarding the zork tape, I think it is exactly the same stuff that was on the VMARC, not sure, but the problem while trying to run the exec remains the same:
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IHO219I FIOCS - MISSING DD CARD OR DCB ERROR FOR ASCII TAPE FOR ? ? 7 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
TRACEBACK ?ROUTINE ?CALLED FROM ISN ? REG. ?14 ? REG. ?15 ? REG. ? 0 ? REG. ? 1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ?IBCOM ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?00028C74 ? 00028DAC ? 00025890 ? 00025890 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ?INIT ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 0104 ? ?420205BA ? 00028498 ? 00000001 ? 000204AC ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ?MAIN ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 00F82774 ? 00020000 ? 0001FB24 ? 0101FE30 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
ENTRY POINT= ?00020000 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
SUMMARY OF ERRORS FOR THIS JOB ? ERROR NUMBER ? NUMBER OF ERRORS ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 219 ? ? ? ? ? ? 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Ready; T=0.02/0.04 09:53:31 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
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I have tried putting certain files on some minidisks, but by reading the ZORK EXEC file, I think it doesn't really matter:
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t?zork?exec?b???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????&CONTROL?OFF?NOMSG?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????FILEDEF?*?CLEAR????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????FILEDEF?3?DISK?ZORK?INDEX?*??(RECFM?VBS?BLKSIZE??800?LRECL?9608????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????FILEDEF?6?TERM?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????FILEDEF?1?DUMMY????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????FILEDEF?20?DISK?ZORK?TEXTDATA?*?(RECFM?F?XTENT?2174????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????FILEDEF?30?DISK?SAVED?ZORKGAME?A?(RECFM?VBS?BLKSIZE?800?LRECL?7684?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????ZORK???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Ready;?T=0.01/0.01?10:00:40?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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I feel there's something amiss here... I have to learn more about FILEDEF, but it appears to me as if something is expecting to have some kind of DD definition for a tape device? I do not understand what's going on there...
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Cheers!
--
Alejandro Olivan.
Spain.
Re: EE goes XEDIT - testing new features #rexx #VMCE

 

Progress with EE will be slow due to my health situation. I have returned from hospital even worse, because I did not receive the treatment that I had desired. I still do NOT have access to ADHD medication.
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Actually I do not have a new bleeding edge preview of EE. Current Work In Progress is promising, but there is still some infrastructure missing to make a decent RDRLIST happen ... and FILELIST will follow.
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SDF's VM/SP 5 is a great help to see how IBM's RDRLIST/FILELIST work. EE's new macros will do similar things in REXX which IBM had done in REXX and EXEC 2.
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Martin
Re: XNET 1.5.0 on VM/370 CE 1.1.2

 

Hi Mark,
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I've uploaded XNET 1.5.1 to the files section, which corrects the issue you identified.? All you need is to replace the MODULE file from the tape image for each XNET machine that you have, and restart them.
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Regards,
Bob
Re: ZORK on VM/370 CE ... POSSIBLE?

 

There is an aws tape with ZORK in the files section.
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Dave
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 04:06 PM, Mark Waterbury wrote:

Alejandro,
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On Melinda Varian's web page you can also find "ZORK VMARC".
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VM/CE does support VMARC.? So, you can use VMARC UNPK to "unpack" the files in the VMARC archive file,
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You only need to issue:
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? ?VMARC UNPK ZORK * A ZORK VMARC A??
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to extract the executable MODULE and EXEC and the components it needs (the ZORK TEXTDATA and INDEX) to run it.
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You do not need to unpack all of the FORTRAN source files or corresponding TEXT files, unless you intend to study the source code or attempt to modify it
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Note: you may need to sign-on to VM/CE as CMSUSER or create a new userID with a sufficiently large minidisk to contain the ZORK VMARC file and extract its contents.
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Hope that helps.
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All the best,
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Mark S. Waterbury
Re: Possible bug in EE & friends

 

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 02:46 PM, William Denton wrote:
Should I be posting this issue someplace else?
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EE & friends are part of MECAFF, of which the binaries and sources were released to the public domain:
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Have you take a look?
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Cheers,
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Ren¨¦ FERLAND, Montr¨¦al
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Possible bug in EE & friends

 

I seem to recall someone saying that the EE editor (& FS* tools) could support arbitrary size 327x displays. So, I thought I would give it a try...
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I used the same WC3270 config I use with my VM/ESA system -- 100 rows, 150 columns...
  • Small number of lines seems to work pretty well except sometimes, the screen is really messed up when exiting
  • Larger (>64 lines maybe) result in:
    DMSITP141T ADDRESSING EXCEPTION OCCURRED AT 055EA2 IN ROUTINE EE$D. ??
  • Other than seeing that this is 0x32 bytes into 'strlen' I have no clue how to go about chasing this down.
Should I be posting this issue someplace else?
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cheers, William
Re: XNET 1.5.0 on VM/370 CE 1.1.2

 

Mark,
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Yep, that's a bug.?? I just confirmed it here.? There is some kind of length calculation issue in the code dealing with the command image received.?? For now, you can use a workaround.? Just type a blank after the ACT in the command and it will work.? For example,
SMSG XNET V 500 ACTb
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Where the 'b' is a blank? (Physically type the blank, because the VM command line is nulls not blanks.
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I'll get a fix to you soon.
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Regards,
Bob
Re: XNET 1.5.0 on VM/370 CE 1.1.2

 

Bob,
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I tried the following from the OPERATOR console. Am I supposed to be able to INACT and ACT a channel?
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15:17:22 SMSG XNET D NODES
XNET032 Node Status 15:17:22
Netid ? Name ? ? ?Status
? 1 ? ? VM370DEV ?INACTIVE
? 2 ? ? VM370P01 ?ACTIVE ? ?(LOCAL NODE)
15:17:35 SMSG XNET V 500 INACT
XNET026 Dev 500 already inactive
15:17:41 SMSG XNET V 500 ACT
XNET011 Unrecognized command input
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?... Mark S.
What major change would justify bumping VM/CE to V2?

 

Got to thinking the other day about what sort of change to Community Edition would justify jumping to Version 2.1.0. Here are some things that occurred to me:
  • Enhanced CMS File System ala VM/SP
  • Fully (or nearly) XEDIT compatible editor
  • New editor and REXX part of CMS DCSS
  • Truely dynamic 327x support... e.g. 150x100 screen size (without CP/CMS Windows/Vscreen !!)
  • Something like Dirmaint
  • Improved RSCS (more like RSCS-PP 5748-XP1)
  • More Passthru-like functionality
Building a V2 would also open up the opportunity to clean up / reorg the mdisks. (There is still lots of drek hanging out from the 3-Pack, 4-Pack, 6-Pack days... e.g. stray nuc maps, obsolete, 1-use execs, etc.)
Plus, building a V2 might lead to creating a useful update/distro strategy for the future.
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Cheers,
William
XNET 1.5.0 on VM/370 CE 1.1.2

 

Having rebuilt most of my VM/370 KVMs, I just tackled the installation of XNET 1.5.0.
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Neat! Wow! Wonderful!
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Bob, you did a wonderful job. I've got my two original systems running and connected. Now to add a third, just because.
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The only thing I really tripped over, and you did document it (page 7), is adding class B to the USER record in USER DIRECT so the CP MSGNOH command works.
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I had PVM installed when I worked on VM years ago, but never used it much. This does as much as I remember.
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Thank you!
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?... Mark S.
Re: How to contribute some fixes?

 

On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 14:45 Mark A. Stevens via <marXtevens=[email protected]> wrote:
looking at programs on WATERLOO5 (which I discovered by reading files on the tape,? is a reference to VM/370 Release 5) which may be applicable/installable on CE.

The University of Waterloo, in Waterloo, Ontario, was a very influential mainframe shop.? Among other contributions to the community, the VMers there curated and distributed "the Waterloo tape".? As you've found, there was actually a separate tape for each VM/SP release, and one for VM/XA. ?

You can see an example of the catalog for one tape in NOTE VMLIB on VMSHARE.

Ross

Ross
Re: How to contribute some fixes?

 

On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 02:45 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
Might be a good idea for me to store them on vm370.org as well, what do others think?
Storing them on vm370.org will allow others not on this list, who may check that site, to see there is activity. I am aware of at least two Discord channels that do have members reference, refer to, and recommend that site.
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I finally have a few of my KVMs back up and running, and looking at programs on WATERLOO5 (which I discovered by reading files on the tape,? is a reference to VM/370 Release 5) which may be applicable/installable on CE. Eventually I will look at WATERLOO6 for similar aids/tools/etc.
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I am assuming correctly, that for any code, I should reserve an update number for each one, but only after I have tested it on my system(s) to find it worthwhile.
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?... Mark S.
Re: VMARC for WIndows

 

Bob,
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You can also find versions of wxWidgets for Linux, here:
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in case you want to "port" VMAGui to your favorite Linux distro.? :-)
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Mark
Re: VMARC for WIndows

 

Bob,
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I think you want to go to the official site for the VMAGui tool for Windows and MacOS:
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? ?https://www.homerow.net/zvm/vma/
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There you can find executable code and the source code.
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Hope that helps,
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Mark
VMARC for WIndows

 

? ? What's a good source for the Windows binary file of the vma.exe? (VMARC extractor for WIndows or Ubuntu Linux)??
I found some source files, but I don't have a full Windows dev environment except for Cygwin, and it says it's missing a WXWidgets package.?
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? ?Some of the sites pointing at vma.exe are now gone or have malware advertising that puts up fake virus warnings.
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Bob Rodriguez
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