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Read this and react:

"
Depending on how you look at it, the Internet turned 50 years old last
week (
) . On October 29, 1969, the first message was transmitted between two
of the four nodes that made up ARPANET, the Internet's predecessor
network. ARPANET was created after a million dollars earmarked for
ballistic missile defense was diverted from the Advanced Research
Projects Agency budget to research packet-switched networks. It's said
that ARPANET was designed to survive a nuclear war; there's plenty of
debate about whether that was a specific design goal, but if it was,
it certainly didn't look promising out of the gate, since the system
crashed after only two characters of the first message were sent. So
happy birthday, Internet, and congratulations: you're now old enough
to start getting junk mail from the AARP ( ) ."

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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

first post test.

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?I am not sure when XEDIT appeared, SP1 I think or REXX . Whilst folks have written a screen mode editor and installed a portable REXX on VM//370 they don’t interact in the same way that XEDIT and REXX do on VM/SP which means many things don’t work.

A short VM/SP history summary:

• VM/SP 1 (I think, I didn't show up until VM/SP 3).
• IUCV
• XEDIT
  
• EXEC2
  
• VM/SP 3
  
• REXX
• VM/SP 4
• GCS
• DIAG x'8C' (querying your console display size)?
  
• VM/SP 5
• Full Screen CMS
  
• VM/SP 6
  
• Shared File System (SFS)

Thus, the LCM+L 4361 running VM/SP 5 has all of the above except SFS.

I think the primary reason for GCS's existence was to support running VTAM natively on VM/SP; previously it had to be in a guest machine such as VS/1.

By VM/SP 4 IBM had a revised version of the RSCS Program Product running under GCS.? It also had TCP/IP (running on CMS). The 4361 doesn't have either installed (they do have the media) because of a lack of the associated hardware.

-ahd-

p.s. Insert my usual disclaimer: I do not work for and not speak for the LCM+L.

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I got VM/SP account from LCM and am now learning how to use CMS and CP commands as well as XEDIT editor and PF/PA keys.

See ; I'll take suggestions on it (send mail directly to me).?

Also look at , which may help you with the AID keys.

-ahd-

On 10/26/19 2:31 AM, Peter Coghlan wrote:

Back in the early 1990s, when I would call IBM (in Ireland) looking for support
with VM/HPO, the first question the person taking my call would ask was:

"Is that hardware or software?"

When I answered "software", the next question would usually be:

"What version of OS/2 are you running?"

Certain OS/2 binary system data files were known for getting easily corrupted and causing crashes.? IBM support was telling customers do a clean reinstall of OS/2 so often that it was a bad cliche.? IBM banned telling customers that, and so support had to hint at it. :-)

From my .sig file data:

"OS/2, the system so good you can't install it just once" -- Dave Gomberg

-ahd-

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Hello!
Very funny. I suggest (strongly, rather strongly) "When HARLIE was
One". It was written by author David Gerrold about 40 or so years ago,
back when computers took up the whole room to work in, in fact HARLIE
could fit into a largish datacenter. David tells me he had HARLIE use
typewriter based I/O devices such as the ones that IBM made who also
used magnetic storage since HARLIE had a bad habit of changing his own
memory to suit what he wanted it to be. However by using the printed
output, the two people involved could steer him back.

CP/67 was written in that era, you'll find people who write of getting TTY's for CP/67 (or was it CTSS?) terminals at home.

HARLIE is what Watson will be when he grows up.

Since HARLIE competed with IBM, that's doubtful.?

OTOH, I think our 2019 MINI Cooper S (a year old this month, ) with it's dedicated 4G cell connectivity is one upgrade away from being a charter member of SkyNet ... and it gets unattended OTA updates,? The navigation system display changed a month ago and WE didn't do anything.? (The Year of Darkness is only 10 years away ...)

You find the Release 2.0 one on his home page. My hardcopy of his
original text bears the signature.

I have the original, not autographed.? I saw release 2.0 in bookstores back in 1980's, but didn't buy it.? It seemed like it would be in stuck its (different) era like the original. Robert A. Heinlein considered some of revising some of his early stories after more science became known, but realized it would be endless and he passed on it.

Incidentally what's with the decidedly big house cat sitting next to you?

Link?? Probably one of the Catzilla brothers ().?

They are Billy & Whitey, named after the Bulger bothers ( -- we lived in Boston at the time of their adoption.

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From the original author of the Pascal version of Relay:

Between VT moving away from VM/XA as part of Y2K and the demise of
Bitnet, it's been a long time since I've been sure I knew where the
RELAY source was. Even if I had a copy, he'd need a legal copy of
the Pascal/VS compiler to build it (I used that because Clarkson had
a license for it, and the licensing on the runtime allowed me to
ship a
RELAYV2 MODULE that had the runtime linked in. The C compilers for
VM didn't allow that.) I admit being surprised that anybody still
has an RSCS network large enough to make running RELAY worthwhile.
Also, unless he has a VM system that does IUCV, the Relay code won't work.
And if we're talking VM/370 R6 that won't fly. If he's on VM/SP R6
that would be a different story.

Someone is working on RSCS and IUCV for VM/370 R6. I have good
knowledge of pascal language so that I can port that to other modern C language.

There are many IRCD source codes on github and others for Internet.

Does anyone have any copy of Relay V1 (REXX version)? I know that
Relay V2 is Pascal version. I used Relay on BITNET while I was student at University.

I had not heard any replies yet that I recently asked for.

Good news! Standard pascal compiler supports Pascal/VS as compatible so that Relay V2 pascal files can be compiled into module files.

Who is author of Relay V2 so that I need to contact?

I have Xyzzy chat programs but no original source elsewhere. I lost them (includes source codes) to drive failure. I need to contact author to get another copy. I can't find him through Internet so far.

Thanks,
Tim

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Drew Derbyshire wrote:

I first touched OS/2 when I worked for Keane, Inc. and we were
contracted with IBM to write a smart OS/2-based emulator connecting to
AS/400's.? This was 1989, and a month and half after I started, IBM
canceled the project as part of their global pullback. (I suspect also
they got a clue and realized that for customers, PC's did not exist
simply to talk to IBM servers using coax).

I stopped using OS/2 full time at home at when I got my first Pentium in
1996, and programs crashed on the machine.? I figured out after months
that the cache chips with were bad, and Windows worked better because IT
didn't exploit the system memory as well (heavily) ... but by then the
writing was on the wall about OS/2 having lost the war.

Back in the early 1990s, when I would call IBM (in Ireland) looking for support
with VM/HPO, the first question the person taking my call would ask was:

"Is that hardware or software?"

When I answered "software", the next question would usually be:

"What version of OS/2 are you running?"

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

Hello!
Very funny. I suggest (strongly, rather strongly) "When HARLIE was
One". It was written by author David Gerrold about 40 or so years ago,
back when computers took up the whole room to work in, in fact HARLIE
could fit into a largish datacenter. David tells me he had HARLIE use
typewriter based I/O devices such as the ones that IBM made who also
used magnetic storage since HARLIE had a bad habit of changing his own
memory to suit what he wanted it to be. However by using the printed
output, the two people involved could steer him back.

HARLIE is what Watson will be when he grows up.

You find the Release 2.0 one on his home page. My hardcopy of his
original text bears the signature.

Incidentally what's with the decidedly big house cat sitting next to you?
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

On 10/25/19 4:09 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:

Hello!
Um what does that one do? And I'll take mine unwrapped.

OS/VU?

Hello!
Um what does that one do? And I'll take mine unwrapped.
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Drew Derbyshire <swhobbit@...> wrote:

On 10/25/19 2:30 PM, Dave Wade wrote:

You can just see on this keyboard for sale on E-Bay



the right control is labelled "enter" and the left "reset"

Well, if you REALLY wanna get weird, try a 327x data entry (keypunch) keyboard; the LCM+L has one (I've typed on it), and there is a picture here:

Yea, unfortunately that’s what I have on almost all of my 3278’s (fortunately my lone 3279 has a typewriter style keyboard). The forever damned keyboard collectors want the typewriter ones and will pay $2000+ for one. Insane!

TTFN - Guy

On 10/25/19 2:21 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:

However.... I'm trying to track down a copy of the thing that IBM
wrote for laughs for Windows 3.11. Think "runtime" and you're trying
to figure out why a guy named Bob is insisting he works for UNCLE.

I'm still keeping my eyes open for a copy of OS/VU, myself.

-ahd-

On 10/25/19 2:30 PM, Dave Wade wrote:

You can just see on this keyboard for sale on E-Bay



the right control is labelled "enter" and the left "reset"

Well, if you REALLY wanna get weird, try a 327x data entry (keypunch) keyboard; the LCM+L has one (I've typed on it), and there is a picture here:

-ahd-