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Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

Since "Living Computers: Museum + Labs" (LCM+L) is gone and their website shut down: an archive link to a blog post "IBM at LCM+L" about their 4361.


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:36 PM, Martin Scheffler wrote:
I have just logged on as a guest.
Where may I ask for a permanent account ?

I'm making inquiries to the people with the authority.?

(The first thing you learn about system admin is that the access to do something is not the authority to do so.)

-ahd-


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

I have just logged on as a guest.
Where may I ask for a permanent account ?


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 08:55 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
SDFVM is back.? See the GitHub issues for the source of the confusion.

BTW, SDFVM was re-migrated from the LCM+L as it on 2024-06-24.? Any work done on it last week was lost.

-ahd


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

SDFVM is back.? See the GitHub issues for the source of the confusion.


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 01:13 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
p.s. Is this is truly a bug in SDL Hyperion, you should officially report it on our GitHub Issues page:

*

I freely admit that I could be confused. Logs and sample configuration files now cut in bug.

https://github.com/SDL-Hercules-390/hyperion/issues/669


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 01:13 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
p.s. Is this is truly a bug in SDL Hyperion, you should officially report it on our GitHub Issues page:

*

Yes, after I get a coherent copy of SDFVM running.

-ahd-


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

Drew Derbyshire wrote:
Fish wrote:
[...]
??? Case should not matter.

This is incorrect. Lower case was expanded under Spinhawk,
not under Hyperion.
I'm either doing something wrong or am not fully understanding the problem. Can you show me and example of the problem occurring? (i.e. can you provide a reproducible test case?)

Thanks!


p.s. Is this is truly a bug in SDL Hyperion, you should officially report it on our GitHub Issues page:

*

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 09:38 AM, Fish Fish wrote:
Drew Derbyshire wrote:

I think cause is that while Spinhawk used a syntax of {cuu}
${CUU}


in the configuration file, Hyperion made a flag-day change
and changed it to {CUU} and fails to warn if the configuration
is using the obsolete lower-case syntax.
??? Case should not matter.
This is incorrect.? Lower case was expanded under Spinhawk, not under Hyperion.

I thought I reset the disks the before we went public on at
SDF.

I've have another report of corrupted disks.
!!! What version of Hercules are you using?
Hercules version 4.8.0.11179-SDL-DEV-g41c86176
(C) Copyright 1999-2024 by Roger Bowler, Jan Jaeger, and others
Built for you with Hercules-Helper (version: v0.9.14-109-g7417f88-dirty)
Build date: Jun 19 2024 at 17:57:58
Built with: GCC 12.2.0
Build type: GNU/Linux x86_64 host architecture build

Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

Drew Derbyshire wrote:

I think cause is that while Spinhawk used a syntax of {cuu}
${CUU}


in the configuration file, Hyperion made a flag-day change
and changed it to {CUU} and fails to warn if the configuration
is using the obsolete lower-case syntax.
??? Case should not matter.


I thought I reset the disks the before we went public on at
SDF.

I've have another report of corrupted disks.
!!! What version of Hercules are you using?

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

I take that back. I'm using upper *and* lower case in the config file my Hercules instance is running right now. Are you sure that's where the problem lies?


On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 11:00?AM Jay Maynard via <jaymaynard=[email protected]> wrote:
Say what?! I've always used uppercase device addresses in my config files, but it should accept lower case as well. I'll check that and fix it.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:56?AM Drew Derbyshire via <swhobbit=[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 05:55 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:31 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
I am doing back up & migration of the LCM+L VM/SP 5 image. To insure the image is clean, I have shutdown the machine for the weekend.?
Did the copy go to SDF.org?? I was able to log in to my userid on their '4361' VM/SP 5 system, but my 191 was corrupted.

I think cause is that while Spinhawk used a syntax of {cuu} in the configuration file, Hyperion made a flag-day change and changed it to {CUU} and fails to warn if the configuration is using the obsolete lower-case syntax.?I?thought I reset the disks the before we went public on at SDF.

I've have another report of corrupted disks.? I can't chase it without a your userid, which is?? (Reply to me privately, no need to waste mailing list bandwidth.)?

-ahd-



--
Jay Maynard



--
Jay Maynard


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

Say what?! I've always used uppercase device addresses in my config files, but it should accept lower case as well. I'll check that and fix it.


On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:56?AM Drew Derbyshire via <swhobbit=[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 05:55 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:31 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
I am doing back up & migration of the LCM+L VM/SP 5 image. To insure the image is clean, I have shutdown the machine for the weekend.?
Did the copy go to SDF.org?? I was able to log in to my userid on their '4361' VM/SP 5 system, but my 191 was corrupted.

I think cause is that while Spinhawk used a syntax of {cuu} in the configuration file, Hyperion made a flag-day change and changed it to {CUU} and fails to warn if the configuration is using the obsolete lower-case syntax.?I?thought I reset the disks the before we went public on at SDF.

I've have another report of corrupted disks.? I can't chase it without a your userid, which is?? (Reply to me privately, no need to waste mailing list bandwidth.)?

-ahd-



--
Jay Maynard


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 05:55 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:31 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
I am doing back up & migration of the LCM+L VM/SP 5 image. To insure the image is clean, I have shutdown the machine for the weekend.?
Did the copy go to SDF.org?? I was able to log in to my userid on their '4361' VM/SP 5 system, but my 191 was corrupted.

I think cause is that while Spinhawk used a syntax of {cuu} in the configuration file, Hyperion made a flag-day change and changed it to {CUU} and fails to warn if the configuration is using the obsolete lower-case syntax.?I?thought I reset the disks the before we went public on at SDF.

I've have another report of corrupted disks.? I can't chase it without a your userid, which is?? (Reply to me privately, no need to waste mailing list bandwidth.)?

-ahd-


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:31 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
I am doing back up & migration of the LCM+L VM/SP 5 image. To insure the image is clean, I have shutdown the machine for the weekend.?
Did the copy go to SDF.org?? I was able to log in to my userid on their '4361' VM/SP 5 system, but my 191 was corrupted.

?... Mark S.


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 10:05 AM, Michael Lyle wrote:
Does the game disk that was on the LCM+L VM/SP5 image exist somewhere
on the 'net?

Much of it came from VM SixPack games disk.? The most of the rest I built from among an early 1980s Clarkson College games archive (for one brief shining moment, I was the assistant games warden at Clarkson).

Your friendly neighborhood BOFH,

-ahd-


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 11:30 AM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
Access via:

  • A 3270 emulator to planet.sdf.org (port 23)
  • ssh to menu@...
  • From https://www.sdf.org, click on Explore Vintage Systems

The latter two options both use a host-side instance of c3270.

"Oh, bother." ¡ª W. T. Pooh

That second option should be menu at tty.sdf.org

Apparently, the web IU decided that we can't share an email address in a private forum.


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

Mike,
I suspect it was built from many places. There are quite a few games in the files section on the groups space on groups.io.
Dave

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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

Hi everyone--

Does the game disk that was on the LCM+L VM/SP5 image exist somewhere on
the 'net?

I remember playing those mainframe versions of games on family day at Santa
Teresa Lab when I was 7-8 years old.

I joined the group awhile back and I'm sorry that I've not had too much to say;
I'm not really a mainframe person, though I find it all fascinating.

Mike

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:31?AM Drew Derbyshire via groups.io
<swhobbit@...> wrote:

I am doing back up & migration of the LCM+L VM/SP 5 image. To insure the
image is clean, I have shutdown the machine for the weekend.

-ahd-

p.s. The usual disclaimer: I do not work for the LCM+L and do not speak for
them.




Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

I am doing back up & migration of the LCM+L VM/SP 5 image. To insure the image is clean, I have shutdown the machine for the weekend.??

And it's back, now hosted by sdf.org.?

Access via:

  • A 3270 emulator to planet.sdf.org (port 23)
  • ssh to menu@...
  • From https://www.sdf.org, click on Explore Vintage Systems

The latter two options both use a host-side instance of c3270.

new: If you use plain telnet to planet.sdf.org (port 23), you will be a connected to a tty (actually 3215) port.

The direct access planet.sdf.org port 23 access may change; I'll post if it does.

-ahd-

p.s. My new (!) improved (!) disclaimer: I do not work for the LCM+L -or- SDF, and do not speak for either.??

?

?


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

Hi everyone--

Does the game disk that was on the LCM+L VM/SP5 image exist somewhere
on the 'net?

I remember playing those mainframe versions of games on family day at
Santa Teresa Lab when I was 7-8 years old.

I joined the group awhile back and I'm sorry that I've not had too
much to say; I'm not really a mainframe person, though I find it all
fascinating.

Mike

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:31?AM Drew Derbyshire via groups.io
<swhobbit@...> wrote:

I am doing back up & migration of the LCM+L VM/SP 5 image. To insure the image is clean, I have shutdown the machine for the weekend.

-ahd-

p.s. The usual disclaimer: I do not work for the LCM+L and do not speak for them.


Re: OT: LCM+L VM/SP image is offline this weekend

 

On June 22, 2024 1:31:03 PM "Drew Derbyshire" <swhobbit@...> wrote:
I am doing back up & migration of the LCM+L VM/SP 5 image. To insure the image is clean, I have shutdown the machine for the weekend.
If you end up needing hosting for that, LSSM can help, let me know.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA