Bertram ? It copies to a 3270 family printer, so you would need a TN3270 program that supports printers. I don’t see any support for 3270 printers in Hercules, but I don’t see how you would be any better off. It simply prints the entire screen to a printer. Most 3270 emulators can copy the screen to a windows printer, or to the clip-board. So you can select text with the mouse and copy to the Windows clip-board. ? If you want to indulge in scripting you have a couple of options. You can use a 3270 program like Attachmate Extra which supports scripting, or you can set ? DIAG8CMD??????? ENABLE SHCMDOPT??????? ENABLE DIAG8 ? In your config file which will allow the use of the HCP command on VM to issues shell/dos commands. This of course is not safe if you allow remote users to logon to your Hercules… E.g. ? Ready; T=0.01/0.05 23:51:04?????????????????????????????????????????????? hcp sh dir *.cmd /w?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?Volume in drive C has no label.????????????????????????????????????????? ?Volume Serial Number is 6278-0F55??????????????????????????????????????? ?Directory of C:\hercdata\VM370CE.V1.R1.2???????????????????????????????? vm370ce.cmd?????? vm370ce.org.cmd?? vm370ce.wx.cmd??? vm370trm.cmd??????? vmtrm.cmd???????? vmtrm.lnk.cmd?????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????6 File(s)????????? 1,782 bytes???????????????????????????? ???????????????0 Dir(s)? 216,290,430,976 bytes free?????????????????????? Ready; T=0.01/0.05 23:51:36???????????????????? ? Hope this helps Dave????????????????????????? ? .??????????????????????? ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bertram Moshier via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 6:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] CP SET PFnn COPY ccu? Hello,
I never had the opportunity to have a 3270 terminal printer during my time as a lead systems programmer at TI LICC or OCF Research Center.
I'm wondering how to define this in the configuration file to Hercules and in DMKRIO.? My hope is this might make it easier to copy & paste text on the 3270 devices we use to email or other programs.
Bertram Moshier of Chicago
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Hello,
I never had the opportunity to have a 3270 terminal printer during my time as a lead systems programmer at TI LICC or OCF Research Center.
I'm wondering how to define this in the configuration file to Hercules and in DMKRIO.? My hope is this might make it easier to copy & paste text on the 3270 devices we use to email or other programs.
Bertram Moshier of Chicago
WB8ERT
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I know we only have VMCF. Are there plans to add IUCV to VM/370 CE?
Hello everyone,
I know we only have VMCF in VM/370 CE Version 1 Release 1.2.? Are there plans to add IUCV to VM/370 CE in a future release or version?
Bertram Moshier
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Diskmap and close parenthesis ")"
Hello,
17:36:09 diskmap user (disk)
17:36:09 DISKMAP is running for USER ?DIRECT
17:36:09 Unknown option: )
17:36:09 Error: Invalid option found
17:36:09 Ready(00001); T=0.05/0.06 17:36:09
The help file for diskmap shows the command supports a close parenthesis as an option
| DISKMAP ?| filename ?[( DISK [)]]
I know this isn't a big issue, but there it is this fine and wonderful day. :-)
Thank you,
Bertram Moshier of Chicago
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On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 17:49 Bertram Moshier via <herc370390vm= [email protected]> wrote: 贬别濒濒辞?搁别苍é,
I'm wondering what's going on. I'm using version 4.7.0.11119-SDL-gf7d2360a, but the comments say this is for pre-4.4.0.
Did it get broken again by the time 4.7 rolled around?
No.? It was still broken - the previous fix was insufficient.? There is a good fix in the current "develop" branch of SDL Hyperion, but it didn't happen in time for 4.7.
I'll check how it runs with ECPSVM disabled.
It should run fine.
Ross
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贬别濒濒辞?搁别苍é,
I'm wondering what's going on. I'm using version 4.7.0.11119-SDL-gf7d2360a, but the comments say this is for pre-4.4.0.
Did it get broken again by the time 4.7 rolled around?
ECPSVM ? ? ? ? ?YES
# Certain assists need to be disabled on Hercule Hyperion
# release earlier than 4.4.0.xxxxx, which fixes the assist issue.
# Add the statement below, if a pre-4.4.0.xxxxx version of Hyperion
# is being used, without the fix for HERCULES ECPSVM issue #382 (closed).
ECPSVM ? ? ? ?DISABLE DISP1 DISP2?
I'll check how it runs with ECPSVM disabled.
Bertram Moshier of Chicago WB8ERT
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 5:36?AM René Ferland via <ferland.rene= [email protected]> wrote: >> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue.
Yes, I have seen this issue, when using SDL Hercules. My solution to it is to uncomment the line
# ECPSVM ? ? ? ?DISABLE DISP1 DISP2
in the file vm370ce.conf. I don't remember where I learned this (lucky?) "work around". I am not aware of possible side effects of it, as I rarely use SDL Hercules with VM/370 CE.
Cheers,
René FERLAND, Montréal
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On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 06:36 René Ferland via <ferland.rene= [email protected]> wrote: >> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue.
Yes, I have seen this issue, when using SDL Hercules. My solution to it is to uncomment the line
# ECPSVM ? ? ? ?DISABLE DISP1 DISP2
in the file vm370ce.conf. I don't remember where I learned this (lucky?) "work around".
I believe it is mentioned in the VM/370 Community Edition readme file, specifically citing the DISKMAP command.
I am not aware of possible side effects of it,
Turning off the DISP1 and DISP2 Extended CP Assist instructions makes the process of dispatching a virtual machine slower.? So just about everything in a VM system takes more time to run.? In my opinion, it's not a ?dramatic effect, and my laptop is still faster than and 370 I worked on.
The problem is well documented at ? , but the summary is that these ECPS instructions damage the vm's floating point registers, that the VM/370CE Rexx implementation uses FPRs heavily, and that DISKMAP is a Rexx program.
Ross
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On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 04:00 AM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
What version of Hercules do you use?
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Hercules 3.13. René FERLAND, Montréal
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Hello,
What version of Hercules do you use?
Bert
>> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue.
Yes, I have seen this issue, when using SDL Hercules. My solution to it is to uncomment the line
# ECPSVM ? ? ? ?DISABLE DISP1 DISP2
in the file vm370ce.conf. I don't remember where I learned this (lucky?) "work around". I am not aware of possible side effects of it, as I rarely use SDL Hercules with VM/370 CE.
Cheers,
René FERLAND, Montréal
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>> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue.
Yes, I have seen this issue, when using SDL Hercules. My solution to it is to uncomment the line
# ECPSVM ? ? ? ?DISABLE DISP1 DISP2
in the file vm370ce.conf. I don't remember where I learned this (lucky?) "work around". I am not aware of possible side effects of it, as I rarely use SDL Hercules with VM/370 CE.
Cheers,
René FERLAND, Montréal
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Re: I forgot the VOLSER of drives (3380) I created
Hello René of ?Montréal, I was able to get the fresh copy working.? All sixteen 3380 drives mount to the system without a hitch.? I wonder how I messed it up, but I did.
Now, maybe, I'll start working on the VM Backup program, which I keep finding reasons to avoid.
Bert of Chicago
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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 7:35?PM René Ferland via <ferland.rene= [email protected]> wrote: >> Are we running the same version of VM/CE even with fixes?
As I wrote before, I tested on a freshly downloaded VM/370 CE R1.2.
>> I want to thank you for testing this with me.
My pleasure. :-)
>> What are your thoughts on figuring out my issue? How can I diagnose this problem?
Well, like me, try it on a freshly downloaded version of VM/370 CE R1.2. If it works there, then the problem lies with your current system somehow. That would be some progress.
Cheers,
René FERLAND, Montréal
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Hello, When I run DISKMAP again for the USER DIRECT FILE (adding only one new mini-disk (3380 001 for 121), I'm getting the following error:
01:56:39 ? ? ? ? ?PASCAL ? ? ?192 ? ? ?3350 ? 00006 ? ?00025 ? ?00020
01:56:41 ? ? 99 *-* ?start = start + 0 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? /* Suppress leading 0s */
01:56:41 Error 41 running diskmap, line 99: Bad arithmetic conversion
01:56:41 Ready(20041); T=0.87/0.97 01:56:41
The next line in the directory is:
MDISK ? 193 3350 026 060 VM50-8 MR ? ALL ? ? ?WRITE ? ?MULT
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. Bertram Moshier WB8ERT
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Re: Trying to access 191 give DMSLIO109S
Bertram, This is why I never bother with large disks. CMS Minidisks are limited in size by the CMS 800-byte file system. You get a maximum of just under 64k 800 byte blocks per disk which is 115 cylinders of 3350. There are similar limits on the number of records in a file and the size of a file. Using cylinder 0 for a minidisk isn’t a good idea as CMS format then overwrites the disk label, which can result in a disk that isn’t mountable. Dave ? ?
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Subject: [h390-vm] Trying to access 191 give DMSLIO109S? Hello, I'm getting DMSLIO109S when trying to access my 191 mini-disk.? It is a 3380 (the entire drive 000 to 886).? How large of a mini-disk does VM/CE support for 3380 DASD?
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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 04:18 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
How large of a mini-disk does VM/CE support for 3380 DASD?
You can create a mini-disk as large as the DASD but, from my quick test, the maximum number of 800 blocks for a mini-disk on a 3380 seems to be 65340, which corresponds to 121 cylinders. In other words, even if you CMS format your mini-disk for a number of cylinders bigger than 121, there won't be more than 65340 blocks total anyway. BTW, when defining a CMS mini-disk, I recommend you to avoid cylinder 0 and start at cylinder 1. Cheers, René FERLAND, Montréal
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Re: I forgot the VOLSER of drives (3380) I created
>> Are we running the same version of VM/CE even with fixes?
As I wrote before, I tested on a freshly downloaded VM/370 CE R1.2.
>> I want to thank you for testing this with me.
My pleasure. :-)
>> What are your thoughts on figuring out my issue? How can I diagnose this problem?
Well, like me, try it on a freshly downloaded version of VM/370 CE R1.2. If it works there, then the problem lies with your current system somehow. That would be some progress.
Cheers,
René FERLAND, Montréal
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Re: Trying to access 191 give DMSLIO109S
If I recall correctly, a 3380 only has 885 cylinders, not 886. (Unless you're using 'E' or 'K' models, but I'm not sure if VM/CE supports those.)
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 7:18?PM Bertram Moshier via <herc370390vm= [email protected]> wrote: Hello,
I'm getting DMSLIO109S when trying to access my 191 mini-disk.? It is a 3380 (the entire drive 000 to 886).? How large of a mini-disk does VM/CE support for 3380 DASD?
Thank you.
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Re: I forgot the VOLSER of drives (3380) I created
Hello?
René,
Yeah, I need to agree with you both that it is something?here and I have zero idea where to go from here.
Are we running the same version of VM/CE even with fixes?
I want to thank you for testing this with me. What are your thoughts on figuring out my issue? How can I diagnose this problem?
Bert
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 5:49?PM René Ferland via <ferland.rene= [email protected]> wrote: On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 02:27 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
So, what might be happening? Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong (other than wanting more than four 3380 drives attached via DMKSYS at IPL time)?
Hello Bertram,
Well, I tried with 16 disks, BGM380 to BGM38F, and guess what, it works... all 16 disks are attached to the system! So, at this point, I am inclined to say you are doing something wrong. What exactly? I can't tell. :-(
Cheers,
René FERLAND, Montréal?
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Trying to access 191 give DMSLIO109S
Hello,
I'm getting DMSLIO109S when trying to access my 191 mini-disk.? It is a 3380 (the entire drive 000 to 886).? How large of a mini-disk does VM/CE support for 3380 DASD?
Thank you.
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Re: I forgot the VOLSER of drives (3380) I created
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 02:27 PM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
So, what might be happening? Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong (other than wanting more than four 3380 drives attached via DMKSYS at IPL time)?
Hello Bertram, Well, I tried with 16 disks, BGM380 to BGM38F, and guess what, it works... all 16 disks are attached to the system! So, at this point, I am inclined to say you are doing something wrong. What exactly? I can't tell. :-( Cheers, René FERLAND, Montréal?
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Re: I forgot the VOLSER of drives (3380) I created
Hello?René of Montréal and et al, I?got 380-383 (BGM380-BGM383) to attach at IPL time. When I tried the next group of four (384-387 / BGM384-BGM387), none of this group showed up, but the drives (6D0-6D3 / VM14-0 through VM14-3) did become attached to the system. ===== ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?KICKS0,VSAMIN, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?X
=====? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? BGM380,BGM381,BGM382,BGM383, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?X
===== ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?BGM384,BGM385,BGM386,BGM387, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?X
===== ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?VM14-0,VM14-1,VM14-2,VM14-3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? X
15:59:40 DASD 380 CP SYSTEM BGM380? ?000
15:59:40 DASD 381 CP SYSTEM BGM381? ?000
15:59:40 DASD 382 CP SYSTEM BGM382? ?000
15:59:40 DASD 383 CP SYSTEM BGM383? ?000
15:59:40 DASD 6A0 CP SYSTEM GCCBRX ? 001
15:59:40 DASD 6A1 CP OWNED ?VM50-1? ?018
. . .
15:59:40 DASD 6D0 CP SYSTEM VM14-0? ?001
15:59:40 DASD 6D1 CP SYSTEM VM14-1? ?001
15:59:40 DASD 6D2 CP SYSTEM VM14-2? ?001
15:59:40 DASD 6D3 CP SYSTEM VM14-3? ?001
Next, I changed to adding the fifth 3380 (384 / BGM384) to the attached system list via DMKSYS, and it failed!
===== ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?KICKS0,VSAMIN, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?X
===== ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?BGM380,BGM381,BGM382,BGM383, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?X
===== ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?BGM384, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? X
===== ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?VM14-0,VM14-1,VM14-2,VM14-3
The DASD list stayed the same from the above. I even verified that 384 / BGM384 was in the DMKSYS TEXT file. It looks like the maximum number of 3380 drives you can attach at IPL time is four, but why only four? I say four 3380 only because there are thirteen 3350 drives (6A0-6A8, 6AC-6AD, 6B0-6B1) attached at IPL time. So, what might be happening? Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong (other than wanting more than four 3380 drives attached via DMKSYS at IPL time)? Bertram Moshier of Chicago
WB8ERT
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René Ferland