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This group is for all folks running the original IBM VM/370 Release 6 operating system (or later (e.g. VMTCE (Community Edition)) on Hercules. Like the other early IBM operating systems this version has always been in the public domain and so can be freely distributed. The base version as supplied by IBM is lacking in many facilities. IBM solved this by providing additional extension products which were licensed and so are not available. There are however many user enhancements available which can be installed. In addition, in order to get users up and running quickly updated "releases" of VM/370 included the most popular updates are available for download, so novices can start to learn VM without having to delve into the system internals. It is intended that this wiki will provide information on the base release and these updates.
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Re: CP SET PFnn COPY ccu
You can plug a printer or a terminal into any port on a 3x74. It's?up to the host's software - typically, the sysgen or MVSCP for local non-SNA devices, along with VTAM - to treat it as a terminal or a printer. Hercules will handle a printer data stream and pass it along to a printer-supporting program like pr3287. On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 3:41?AM Dave Wade via <dave.g4ugm=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: CP SET PFnn COPY ccu
开云体育Bertram, OK so I did some experimentation, but still need to do more work…. ? 1. In DMKRIO I defined device 0CF as a 3284 printer. 2. In the Hercules configuration file I defined 0CF as a 3270 with a pool name of PRT 3. I set up an IBM PC Communications session to connect with a pool of PRT ? And provided I leave the PCOMMS session as a TERMINAL it connects…. But not as a printer.. why might this be? … and after issuing a SET PF1 COPY 0CF pressing PF1 results in some data being sent to a printer somewhere, I think……… . indeed if both screens are set to 24x80 the data is copied. So I suspect this support wasn’t updated when we added dynamic screen size selection… .. but I still don’t see how it could be useful… ? Dave G4UGM ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bertram Moshier via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 6:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [h390-vm] CP SET PFnn COPY ccu ? Hello, |
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Re: CP SET PFnn COPY ccu
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-----Original Message-----Whilst the entry for "Local non-SNA 3270 devices" "display or printer" there is no mention of "printer" in the detailed description of the command. Am I to assume that ANY 3270 device can be a printer, it just depends on how its defined on the host? Dave |
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Re: CP SET PFnn COPY ccu
Gregg Levine wrote:
[...] Because Fish one of the things I did notice early on is thatI don't understand what you're saying. Yes, a 3287 is indeed a printer: * GA27-3190-0 "3287 Printer Models 11 and 12 Component Description, page 1-1: "The IBM 3287 Printer (Models 11 and 12) is a compact, movable, desk top printer that is attached to a controlling unit either by a direct attached or data-link attached system communication loop." but your claim that "...and Hercules wasn't setup for that." is confusing me. Hercules most certainly does support 3287 printers, and has done so since at least 2 July 2002 (i.e. version 2.16.3): * 2.16.3: 3287 printer support via TN3270 (Tomas Masek) That is of course for the Hercules 3 Series.And every subsequent version of Hercules since then too. As I said, it's been there since version 2.16.3! How hard would it be to build it into the system?It's already there! And has been for the past 22 years! -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@... |
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Re: CP SET PFnn COPY ccu
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Give the Fish a bigger tank and rub my mascots ears for me. Because Fish one of the things I did notice early on is that the PR3287 device support is terminal only, and Hercules wasn't setup for that. That is of course for the Hercules 3 Series. How hard would it be to build it into the system? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@... "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 10:38?PM Fish Fish via groups.io <david.b.trout@...> wrote: "Be careful doing that!", complained the Jedi Knight as the timelordI don’t see any support for 3270 printers in used his own talents to cause the Separatist they had captured to blurt out everything he knew about where he came from and why he was the only one on the planet. -- from a timelord's travels with the Jedi Knights a memoir not yet published. |
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Re: CP SET PFnn COPY ccu
It copies to a 3270 family printer, so you would need a TN3270> program that supports printers. I don’t see any support for 3270 > printers in Hercules, but I don’t see how you would be any better > off. It may be that if the OS supports printing to terminal-attached printers, x3270 could do this. It has, and can automatically invoke, pr3287 to provide attached-printer service. (pr3287 can also do printer sessions where it connects directly to the host.) De |
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Re: CP SET PFnn COPY ccu
开云体育Bertram ? It copies to a 3270 family printer, so you would need a TN3270 program that supports printers. I don’t see any support for 3270 printers in Hercules, but I don’t see how you would be any better off. It simply prints the entire screen to a printer. Most 3270 emulators can copy the screen to a windows printer, or to the clip-board. So you can select text with the mouse and copy to the Windows clip-board. ? If you want to indulge in scripting you have a couple of options. You can use a 3270 program like Attachmate Extra which supports scripting, or you can set ? DIAG8CMD??????? ENABLE SHCMDOPT??????? ENABLE DIAG8 ? In your config file which will allow the use of the HCP command on VM to issues shell/dos commands. This of course is not safe if you allow remote users to logon to your Hercules… E.g. ? Ready; T=0.01/0.05 23:51:04?????????????????????????????????????????????? hcp sh dir *.cmd /w?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?Volume in drive C has no label.????????????????????????????????????????? ?Volume Serial Number is 6278-0F55??????????????????????????????????????? ?Directory of C:\hercdata\VM370CE.V1.R1.2???????????????????????????????? vm370ce.cmd?????? vm370ce.org.cmd?? vm370ce.wx.cmd??? vm370trm.cmd??????? vmtrm.cmd???????? vmtrm.lnk.cmd?????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????6 File(s)????????? 1,782 bytes???????????????????????????? ???????????????0 Dir(s)? 216,290,430,976 bytes free?????????????????????? Ready; T=0.01/0.05 23:51:36???????????????????? ? Hope this helps Dave????????????????????????? ? .??????????????????????? ? ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bertram Moshier via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 6:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [h390-vm] CP SET PFnn COPY ccu ? Hello, |
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CP SET PFnn COPY ccu
Hello,
I never had the opportunity to have a 3270 terminal printer during my time as a lead systems programmer at TI LICC or OCF Research Center. I'm wondering how to define this in the configuration file to Hercules and in DMKRIO.? My hope is this might make it easier to copy & paste text on the 3270 devices we use to email or other programs. Bertram Moshier of Chicago WB8ERT |
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Diskmap and close parenthesis ")"
Hello,
17:36:09 diskmap user (disk) 17:36:09 DISKMAP is running for USER ?DIRECT 17:36:09 Unknown option: ) 17:36:09 Error: Invalid option found 17:36:09 Ready(00001); T=0.05/0.06 17:36:09 | DISKMAP ?| filename ?[( DISK [)]] I know this isn't a big issue, but there it is this fine and wonderful day. :-) |
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Re: DIRECTMAP issue
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 17:49 Bertram Moshier via <herc370390vm=[email protected]> wrote:
No.? It was still broken - the previous fix was insufficient.? There is a good fix in the current "develop" branch of SDL Hyperion, but it didn't happen in time for 4.7.
It should run fine. Ross |
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Re: DIRECTMAP issue
贬别濒濒辞?搁别苍é, I'm wondering what's going on. I'm using version 4.7.0.11119-SDL-gf7d2360a, but the comments say this is for pre-4.4.0. Did it get broken again by the time 4.7 rolled around?
I'll check how it runs with ECPSVM disabled. Bertram Moshier of Chicago WB8ERT On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 5:36?AM René Ferland via <ferland.rene=[email protected]> wrote: >> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. |
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Re: DIRECTMAP issue
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 06:36 René Ferland via <ferland.rene=[email protected]> wrote: >> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. I believe it is mentioned in the VM/370 Community Edition readme file, specifically citing the DISKMAP command. I am not aware of possible side effects of it, Turning off the DISP1 and DISP2 Extended CP Assist instructions makes the process of dispatching a virtual machine slower.? So just about everything in a VM system takes more time to run.? In my opinion, it's not a ?dramatic effect, and my laptop is still faster than and 370 I worked on. The problem is well documented at ? , but the summary is that these ECPS instructions damage the vm's floating point registers, that the VM/370CE Rexx implementation uses FPRs heavily, and that DISKMAP is a Rexx program. Ross |
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Re: DIRECTMAP issue
Hello, What version of Hercules do you use? Bert On Tue, May 21, 2024, 05:36 René Ferland via <ferland.rene=[email protected]> wrote: >> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. |
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Re: DIRECTMAP issue
>> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue.
Yes, I have seen this issue, when using SDL Hercules. My solution to it is to uncomment the line # ECPSVM ? ? ? ?DISABLE DISP1 DISP2 in the file vm370ce.conf. I don't remember where I learned this (lucky?) "work around". I am not aware of possible side effects of it, as I rarely use SDL Hercules with VM/370 CE. Cheers, René FERLAND, Montréal |
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Re: I forgot the VOLSER of drives (3380) I created
Hello René of ?Montréal, I was able to get the fresh copy working.? All sixteen 3380 drives mount to the system without a hitch.? I wonder how I messed it up, but I did. Now, maybe, I'll start working on the VM Backup program, which I keep finding reasons to avoid. Bert of Chicago ?? On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 7:35?PM René Ferland via <ferland.rene=[email protected]> wrote: >> Are we running the same version of VM/CE even with fixes? |
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DIRECTMAP issue
Hello,
When I run DISKMAP again for the USER DIRECT FILE (adding only one new mini-disk (3380 001 for 121), I'm getting the following error: 01:56:39 ? ? ? ? ?PASCAL ? ? ?192 ? ? ?3350 ? 00006 ? ?00025 ? ?00020
01:56:41 ? ? 99 *-* ?start = start + 0 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? /* Suppress leading 0s */
01:56:41 Error 41 running diskmap, line 99: Bad arithmetic conversion
01:56:41 Ready(20041); T=0.87/0.97 01:56:41
The next line in the directory is: MDISK ? 193 3350 026 060 VM50-8 MR ? ALL ? ? ?WRITE ? ?MULT Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. Bertram Moshier WB8ERT |
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Re: Trying to access 191 give DMSLIO109S
开云体育Bertram, This is why I never bother with large disks. CMS Minidisks are limited in size by the CMS 800-byte file system. You get a maximum of just under 64k 800 byte blocks per disk which is 115 cylinders of 3350. There are similar limits on the number of records in a file and the size of a file. Using cylinder 0 for a minidisk isn’t a good idea as CMS format then overwrites the disk label, which can result in a disk that isn’t mountable. Dave ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bertram Moshier via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 12:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [h390-vm] Trying to access 191 give DMSLIO109S ? Hello, ? I'm getting DMSLIO109S when trying to access my 191 mini-disk.? It is a 3380 (the entire drive 000 to 886).? How large of a mini-disk does VM/CE support for 3380 DASD? ? Thank you. |
René Ferland