This group is for all folks running the original IBM VM/370 Release 6 operating system (or later (e.g. VMTCE (Community Edition)) on Hercules. Like the other early IBM operating systems this version has always been in the public domain and so can be freely distributed. The base version as supplied by IBM is lacking in many facilities. IBM solved this by providing additional extension products which were licensed and so are not available. There are however many user enhancements available which can be installed. In addition, in order to get users up and running quickly updated "releases" of VM/370 included the most popular updates are available for download, so novices can start to learn VM without having to delve into the system internals. It is intended that this wiki will provide information on the base release and these updates.
The available versions are here :-
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***** Problem Solved ***????????
VM/370 Community Edition Version? 1 Release? 1.2?? has an outdated saved segment GCCLIB .??????????????????????????????????? ? Running? GCCSEG?? EXEC???? Y2? as? MAINT? solves this problem.??? ? CON FILE 1435? TO? MAINT??? COPY 01 NOHOLD???????????????????????? ? Ready; T=0.01/0.01 06:39:52??????????????????????????????????????? ? sp con to * start????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? Ready; T=0.01/0.02 06:39:59??????????????????????????????????????? ? id???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? MAINT??? AT VM370CE? VIA RSCS???? 06:40:11 10/14/22 GMT???? FRIDAY ? Ready; T=0.01/0.01 06:40:11??????????????????????????????????????? ? define storage 16m???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? STORAGE = 16384K?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? CP ENTERED; DISABLED WAIT PSW '00020000 00000000'????????????????? ? SYSTEM CLEAR?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? STORAGE CLEARED - SYSTEM RESET???????????????????????????????????? ? IPL CMS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? San Lorenzo's Great Bug Factory??????????????????????????????????? ? access ( noprof??????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? Y (19E) R/O??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? Ready; T=0.01/0.01 06:41:52??????????????????????????????????????? ? gccseg f20000 gcclib?????????????????????????????????????????????? ? SYSTEM SAVED?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? GCCSEG COMPLETE??????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? Ready; T=0.04/0.12 06:42:46??????????????????????????????????????? ? sp con to * start close????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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A sobering finding: my little tool produces essentially the same results as the already existing file VISTA IND$MAP Y2 on MNT19E. I feel like having reinvented the wheel for the seventh time. So for most users there is a very simple solution:? COPY VISTA IND$MAP Y2 DEFAULT IND$MAP A1? . Such a file does NOT exist on LCM+L's VM/SP 5, though their IND$FILE program is not IBM's ... it behaves EXACTLY like that from the MECAFF tool suite on VM/370 CE.
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? Ready; T=0.01/0.50 14:43:47???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? l * IND$MAP+ ( l??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time?? Label??????????? ? VISTA??? IND$MAP+ A1? F??? 80???? 98???? 10? 09/23/22?? 14:39? MCF191?????????? ? ZOC_1047 IND$MAP+ A1? F??? 80???? 98???? 10? 09/23/22?? 14:40? MCF191?????????? ? Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:43:51???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? comp ZOC_1047 IND$MAP+ A1? VISTA??? IND$MAP+ A1???????????????????????????????? ? COMPARING 'ZOC_1047 IND$MAP+ A' WITH 'VISTA IND$MAP+ A'.??????????????????????? ? 9D 68?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 9D 68 * bug reported by mfnoel (error: cedille <-> comma), old line was: 9D 6B? ? DF E1?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? DF E1 * y-trema :: host: lowercase <-> term: uppercase????????????????????????? ? FILES DO NOT COMPARE.?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? Ready(00004); T=0.01/0.02 14:44:26????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? listfile VISTA??? IND$MAP? Y2? (label)????????????????????????????????????????? ? Filename Filetype Fm? Format??? Recs Blocks???? Date??? Time?? Label??????????? ? VISTA??? IND$MAP? Y2? V??? 78??? 130????? 2? 07/18/13?? 17:04? MNT19E?????????? ? Ready; T=0.01/0.01 15:02:09???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? copy VISTA??? IND$MAP? Y2? default? IND$MAP? a1???????????????????????????????? ? Ready; T=0.01/0.02 15:23:23???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? |
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Re: VM/SP Release 5 at LCM+L (Living Computers: Museum + Labs)
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LOGON GUEST4??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? LOGMSG - 10:19:16 PDT WEDNESDAY 09/21/22??????????????????????????????????? ? * Welcome to the Living Computers: Museum + Labs IBM 4361, located????????? ? * in Seattle, Washington USA. The 4361 runs VM/SP 5, and is set to????????? ? * the local (Pacific) timezone.???????????????????????????????????????????? ? *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * Use DIRMAINT to set your password or account options. For help on???????? ? * DIRMAINT, enter: DIRM ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * Spring has sprung in Seattle, and the VM/SP system is now on????????????? ? * Pacific Daylight Savings time???????????????????????????????????????????? ? *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * The LCM+L (including the physical IBM 4361) is shutdown. We've??????????? ? * gone virtual for now to bring you an emulated VM/SP 5 experience.???????? ? * (Comparisons to the Ship of Theseus may be appropriate.)????????????????? ? *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * For the full (previous) log messages, enter: CP QUERY LOGMSG????????????? ? FILES:? 004 RDR,?? NO PRT,?? NO PUN???????????????????????????????????????? ? RECONNECTED AT 12:06:57 PDT WEDNESDAY 09/21/22????????????????????????????? ? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? CP QUERY LOGMSG???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * Welcome to the Living Computers: Museum + Labs IBM 4361, located????????? ? * in Seattle, Washington USA. The 4361 runs VM/SP 5, and is set to????????? ? * the local (Pacific) timezone.???????????????????????????????????????????? ? *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * Use DIRMAINT to set your password or account options. For help on???????? ? * DIRMAINT, enter: DIRM ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * Spring has sprung in Seattle, and the VM/SP system is now on????????????? ? * Pacific Daylight Savings time???????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2021-11-11????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . "Winter is coming."? -- Eddard Stark????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . VM/SP has been IPLed in the PST timezone for the winter months.?????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . Because the VM/SP environment has no physical unit record???????????????? ? . devices, the system profile has been changed so that the virtual????????? ? . printer and punch for each user now spool to back to their reader.??????? ? *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * The LCM+L (including the physical IBM 4361) is shutdown. We've??????????? ? * gone virtual for now to bring you an emulated VM/SP 5 experience.???????? ? * (Comparisons to the Ship of Theseus may be appropriate.)????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2020-05-11????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . APL\360 is now installed thanks to Bob Bolsh. Use an APL-enabled????????? ? . terminal emulator and run APL360. ("x3270 -efont 3270 -apl"?????????????? ? . does nicely.)???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2020-05-01????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . Oregon Trail (the 1978 Creative Computing version) is installed.????????? ? . Type OREGON to play.????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2020-04-13????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . DON'T PANIC: "The DASD is being cleared" messsage at login is now???????? ? . normal. Users now have a 50 cylinder (~29 MBytes) temporary disk????????? ? . being allocated, cleared, formatted, and accessed as D at login.????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2020-04-02????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . The user ids GUEST and GUEST0-GUEST5 are now available for remote???????? ? . anonymous access. The password for all of the accounts is GUEST.????????? ? . Tell your friends.??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2019-12-04????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . The games disk has moved from address 192 to 19C on user virtual????????? ? . machines, and now is automatically accessed at file mode G.?????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2019-12-04????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . The user directory (PASSWD file for you UNIX types) has been????????????? ? . tidied up and all regular users are converted to use a standard?????????? ? . profile. No changes should be visible. Report any problems via??????????? ? . NOTE to AHD?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2019-05-04????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . While the 4361 was in rehab, the local help files were audited;?????????? ? . numerous files were corrected, and entire menus were added for??????????? ? . local utilities, XEDIT macros, and games.???????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2018-07-03????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . NEW COMPILERS: The PL/I Optimizing (PLIOPT) and FORTRAN/VS??????????????? ? . (FORTVS2) compilers are now installed. (We're not sure why??????????????? ? . FORTRAN/VS works, but it does!)?????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . The PLI (F) compiler is renamed to PLIF, and its library to PLIF????????? ? . as well. Likewise the FORTRANG and FORTRANH compilers have new??????????? ? . names, and their common library is now FORTGH. These changes are????????? ? . to avoid confusion with the newer FORTRAN/VS and PL/I Optimizing????????? ? . compilers.??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . In addition to our new compilers, we have taken a look at our???????????? ? . older offerings:????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . - Verified the operation of C (GCC), COBOL, FORTRAN (G, H, and??????????? ? .?? VS), PLI (F and Optimizing) and SNOBOL4 compilers.????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . - Verified the operation of the BASIC, FORTH, PLCT (PL/C for????????????? ? .?? CMS), SCRIPT (text formatter), and WATFIV interpreters.???????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . NOTE: Currently ALGOL 68, ASSIST (Assembler) Interpreter and????????????? ? . Stanford Pascal don't work. Work is in progress on ASSIST and???????????? ? . PASCAL.?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . We have added tools and demonstration programs to the Y-Disk:???????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . - "Hello world!" programs in BASIC, C, COBOL, FORTRAN, PASCAL???????????? ? .?? PLC, PLI, SCRIPT, SNOBOL4 and WATFIV. To view: FILELIST HELLO * Y?????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . - Simple EXEC procedures to build modules from compiler output??????????? ? .?? These include GENCOBOL, GENFORTG, GENFORTH, GENFORTV, GENGCC,?????????? ? .?? GENPLIF and GENPLIOP.? To view: FILELIST GEN* EXEC Y??????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2018-06-22????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . FLIST and BROWSE now exploit larger terminal sizes gracefully.??????????? ? . Thanks to Bob Polmanter (again!)????????????????????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2018-06-20????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . SMART has now idle checking enabled. If you are idle for two????????????? ? . hours, it will warn you and then FORCE you off. Running any?????????????? ? . periodically waking program like VMCSMART will prevent this action.?????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2018-06-15????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . Various IPF utilties are loaded, including the very fast BROWSE and FLIST. . Sadly, they don't grok dynamic terminal sizes.??????????????????????????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2018-06-15????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . IND$FILE is installed for interactive file transfers. Our thanks to Bob?? ? . Polmanter (WABLY) for his efforts to make it compatible with VM/SP.?????? ? .?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? 2018-06-10????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? . The Real-Time Monitor (SMART) is now available. Type VMCSMART to????????? ? . run, and hit ENTER to stop refreshes and exit.??????????????????????????? ? *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? * For the full (previous) log messages, enter: CP QUERY LOGMSG????????????? ? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? |
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Re: VM/SP Release 5 at LCM+L (Living Computers: Museum + Labs)
Thanks for info. I have mailed to sysadmin@... .
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VM/SP Release 5 at LCM+L (Living Computers: Museum + Labs)
Does anyone know where to ask for a permanent account ?
There are public guest accounts accessible, but all data is lost immediately on logoff. I am working on a backup/restore procedure through IND$FILE. Connect: Use a 3270 terminal emulator to connect to host tty.livingcomputers.org port 24 |
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Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
Hi Mark,
I changed ECPSVM to NO and still no go, same error. The ONLY reason for using Hercules 3.x is because you heard about it, and can find it in the Fedora/Red Hat/.../[A-Z*]Ubuntu/... and other distributions list of available products, and have not yet found about the superior Hercules 4. I run Hercules 4 on my Windows system just fine, from VM/370 CE to an old z/VM system I found on the Internet.? No problems yet.? I just don't know if I can run Hercules 4 on Ubuntu, I can't find it. Thanks. Jim |
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Hello, i need your help.
Please check your VM/370 systems if this bug shows up, perhaps only my system might be damaged. You only need any one REXX exec, it does not matter if it does any real work. Start the exec with 7,8,9,10 ... arguments. Check for unusual error messages like those marked in red below. Please post your test results here, even if this bug does not show up on your sytem. Please include version info (cmslevel, brexx ...) Further info and screenshots: Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:59:42 allhappy Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:59:51 I'm happy to tell you that 1 + 3 = 4 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:59:51 I'm happy to tell you that 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 = 16 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:59:51 I'm happy to tell you that 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 +8 = 24 ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted. Ready(00012); T=0.01/0.01 16:59:51 Invalid character 'ó' in fileID 'ó??PY EXEC'. Error 58 running "ó?¤py": File not found ABNORMAL TERMINATION (NO RESOURCE CLEANUP) ERRNO 430 DLMalloc aborted. Ready(00012); T=0.01/0.01 16:59:51 linotype allhappy exec ?* * * Top of file * * *?? Size=4??? ALLHAPPY EXEC ?*1*? &STACK happy 1 + 3 ?*2*? &STACK happy 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 ?*3*? &STACK happy 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 +8 ?*4*? &STACK happy 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + 8 ?* * * End of file * * *?? Size=4??? ALLHAPPY EXEC Ready; T=0.03/0.03 17:00:40 linotype happy exec ?* * * Top of file * * *?? Size=6??? HAPPY EXEC ?*1*? /* REXX */ ?*2* ?*3*? parse arg expr ?*4*? interpret "eval =" expr ?*5*? say "I'm happy to tell you that" expr "=" eval ?*6*? /* say "I'm happy to tell you that? 17 + 4? = " 17 + 4 + 1 "- 1" */ ?* * * End of file * * *?? Size=6??? HAPPY EXEC Ready; T=0.20/0.34 17:03:42 whoami MECAFF?? AT VM370CE? VIA RSCS???? 17:08:27 09/19/22 GMT???? MONDAY SYSTEM 4381-A VM/370 Community Edition Version? 1 Release? 1.2 07/19/22 13:20:46 VM/370 CMS Community Edition Version 1 Release 1.2 CMS bREXX 1.0.1 Jul? 5 2022 CMS COMMAND whoami whoami Ready; T=0.01/0.02 17:08:27 linotype whoami exec ?* * * Top of file * * *?? Size=7??? WHOAMI EXEC ?*1*? /* REXX */ ?*2* ?*3*? "identify" ?*4*? "query cplevel" ?*5*? "query cmslevel" ?*6*? parse version v; parse source s ?*7*? say v; say s ?* * * End of file * * *?? Size=7??? WHOAMI EXEC Ready; T=0.02/0.03 17:09:12 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? RUNNING?? VM370CE?? |
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Re: Need Advice on Ubuntu/Linux Distro
开云体育Don't just upgrade to an SSD (256GB should be okay), but add in as much memory as possible. Memory is more important to Windows OS than to a Linux OS but helps with either one. I usually take the old hard-drive and put it into a shirt-pocket
case to attach via USB for recovering data first but then as
external storage. For OS, I run RedHat on my tower server in the corner but Ubuntu on the old Toshiba laptop I play with.? I used to run CentOS on both.
/Tom Kern On 9/19/2022 7:37 AM, Joe Monk wrote:
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