On 7/9/20 12:50 AM, gpcramins@... wrote:

Just a side note, I see you are a licensed ham radio operator. I am as
well, call sign AE5HL.

We just closed on a house and moved last month, no antennas up yet, but
the check is in the mail, looking to cover 40/20/15/10 meters, similar
to my old setup.

(I assume this was directed at me)

Sounds great, congrats on your new place and good luck getting your HF
antennas up. I've not keyed up a transmitter in forever, zero (or less
than zero) free time, but I do miss it. Someday..

-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

I am not quite sure what the question is here but SENTRIES is a command that gives the same information as queued() in your example.

You are correct that adding "(STACK" is the VM way of putting the output of the command/module onto the latest program input stack. It provided a easy work around to ensure that EXEC processors and Rexx could access the information. It was never elegant as is demonstrate if your program exits unexpectedly, at which point CMS will take the program stack as input. If the stack contains a list of files, then multiple other programs got fired up. All very quirky.

Ant

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Was waiting for someone more knowledgeable to answer this, but in BREXX you can do something like this:

Just a side note, I see you are a licensed ham radio operator. I am as well, call sign AE5HL.

We just closed on a house and moved last month, no antennas up yet, but the check is in the mail, looking to cover 40/20/15/10 meters, similar to my old setup.

Garry

Garry Cramins, AE5HL
Albuquerque, NM

On 7/8/20 2:44 PM, gpcramins@... wrote:

Forgive me, I am new here, saw the post, and it resonated as we had a
family member recently pass. The estate was not considerable but for
this locality was significant, consequently, there was the expected
behavior, infighting over homes, automobiles, etc.

I went through this about a decade ago, with a mid-sized estate. As
the deceased individual was the only person in the entire extended
family (not mine) with any sort of resources, and a lot of them were
really trashy people, the predictable ensued.

There really seems to be no limit to the depth to which people will
sink. It was repulsive to watch.

-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

Forgive me, I am new here, saw the post, and it resonated as we had a family member recently pass. The estate was not considerable but for this locality was significant, consequently, there was the expected behavior, infighting over homes, automobiles, etc. If this was out of line, I apologize.

At any rate, I have been learning MVS using the turnkey system available at?

I was able to set it up under FreeBSD using Linux emulation, but it ran under an older version of Hercules, so I am now tweaking it to run natively, on the most current version available for the installed package management system, 3.13. It has been a great deal of fun and somewhat of an obsession, I suppose.

An attempt was made to build the "Hyperion" version but am having an issue running the "configure" script, which is being sorted. Windows and Linux are obviously well supported, FreeBSD, less so it would appear.

I was just a boy when these systems were "cutting edge", thus I have no practical experience on the actual hardware used at the time, but am learning as I go.

Adding my full name to my signature and thanks for having me here!

Garry Cramins

On 7/8/20 12:01 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

On 7/8/20 6:46 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:

? The context was family members doing scummy things when someone with
money dies, and the general belief that that's what's happening to Paul
Allen's work.

I might suggest the original author take a gentle tone to such judgements.

Paul Allen chose Jody Allen as his executor; one presumes he knew better
her that we do.? Him knowing her and being aware of his own holdings,
had he wanted to tie her hands he have could done so. He would probably
not label her actions scummy, and neither should we.

Also, I would point that that COVID-19 is Black Swan event. These ...
are not normal times.

I should probably also state that I really hope I'm wrong about what
happened out there. My feeling is that, with as much money as was left
behind, there really should have been no problem at all keeping his
stuff running for at least the rest of our lifetimes.

-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

On 7/8/20 12:01 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

? The context was family members doing scummy things when someone with
money dies, and the general belief that that's what's happening to Paul
Allen's work.

I might suggest the original author take a gentle tone to such judgements.

Paul Allen chose Jody Allen as his executor; one presumes he knew better
her that we do.? Him knowing her and being aware of his own holdings,
had he wanted to tie her hands he have could done so. He would probably
not label her actions scummy, and neither should we.

I never said that *I* believed this, I said that it is the general
belief, which it is. This has been discussed at great length on many
mailing lists, with some of the threads involving people who might
actually know something about what happened there.

But I myself do have my suspicions. I don't know any of the people
involved, but I do know this:

- Paul Allen cared about it
- He was a gazillionaire
- LCM+L has/had absurdly high overhead
- That overhead is a drop in the bucket to a gazillionaire
- Relatives almost universally get shitty when people with money die
- The chances of someone else in any given family caring as much about
something as the deceased did, or caring that the deceased person cared,
are pretty close to zero.

It's called "seeing dollar signs" and it happens every day.

If I were on the other coast, I'd be sitting next to the nearest scrap
yard with an empty truck.

Also, I would point that that COVID-19 is Black Swan event. These ...
are not normal times.

Of course not. And museum revenue has dropped significantly as a
result. (ask me how I know) But Paul Allen was a gazillionaire, and if
he had intended for this legacies to continue, and if he had properly
acted on that intention, they would have continued.

That's really all there is to it.

-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

Grant,

Well there are some similarities between and the 1918 flu. In 1918 people revolted against lock downs and there were three waves, of which the third was worst.


The demise of LCM was perhaps to be expected. Once an institution looses its "champion" it often goes that way.

Dave
P.S. it’s a tad pointless signing messages sent via groups.io as it changes several things rendering the signature invalid.

On 7/8/20 10:01 AM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

Also, I would point that that COVID-19 is Black Swan event. These ... are not normal times.

I don't know if I'd label COVID-19 a "Black Swan" or not. I think it's more akin to 100 year floods. They don't happen often, but they do happen.

The Spanish Flu was another such 100 year event that was just shy of 100 years ago.

Sure, the coverage and information exchange is completely different now than it was 100 years ago. But that's more about how we deal with it than it is the event itself.



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On 7/8/20 6:46 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:

The context was family members doing scummy things when someone with
money dies, and the general belief that that's what's happening to Paul
Allen's work.

I might suggest the original author take a gentle tone to such judgements.

Paul Allen chose Jody Allen as his executor; one presumes he knew better her that we do.? Him knowing her and being aware of his own holdings, had he wanted to tie her hands he have could done so. He would probably not label her actions scummy, and neither should we.

Also, I would point that that COVID-19 is Black Swan event. These ... are not normal times.

-ahd-

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"Nuke the users and let IBM sort them out" -ahd-, out of context

Hello!
#Watches as the writer was handed a cup of tea made in the Tibetan style.#
Actually that's how I inferred it, but I felt it needed more
explanations. And we needed to know who this is.
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On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:46 AM Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:

On 7/8/20 12:26 AM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

I don't know the back story on this, but I agree, and the latest I
observed the behavior, it was a much smaller sum of money than being
discussed here. Seen this a few times....

Die broke, that's my plan, and I am well on track!

To perhaps paraphase Greg (perhaps not) ...

Who are you and what are you talking about?

The context was family members doing scummy things when someone with
money dies, and the general belief that that's what's happening to Paul
Allen's work.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

And this space belongs to the Jawas.

Hello!
#Hands the man a basket of fruit from the orchards in a Tatooine
oasis, "Take a few!"#

Actually yes the meaning is clear. But please remember I am not named
for an excellent actor. (We won't go into the next part inside the
list.)
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On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:26 AM Drew Derbyshire <swhobbit@...> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 07:08 PM, <gpcramins@...> wrote:

I don't know the back story on this, but I agree, and the latest I observed the behavior, it was a much smaller sum of money than being discussed here. Seen this a few times....

Die broke, that's my plan, and I am well on track!

To perhaps paraphase Greg (perhaps not) ...

Who are you and what are you talking about?

-ahd-
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And this spot was grabbed by the Tusken Raiders.

On 7/8/20 12:26 AM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

I don't know the back story on this, but I agree, and the latest I
observed the behavior, it was a much smaller sum of money than being
discussed here. Seen this a few times....

Die broke, that's my plan, and I am well on track!

To perhaps paraphase Greg (perhaps not) ...

Who are you and what are you talking about?

The context was family members doing scummy things when someone with
money dies, and the general belief that that's what's happening to Paul
Allen's work.

-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 07:08 PM, <gpcramins@...> wrote:

I don't know the back story on this, but I agree, and the latest I observed the behavior, it was a much smaller sum of money than being discussed here. Seen this a few times....

Die broke, that's my plan, and I am well on track!

To perhaps paraphase Greg (perhaps not) ...

Who are you and what are you talking about?

-ahd-

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Drew Derbyshire

Hello!
Do me a favor please. And do the others one also. Please elaborate.
What are you getting at? (I believe the one who's reading this outloud
to his audience will agree with me.) Oh and please include your full
name as part of your signature line. One of us prefers that.
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:08 PM <gpcramins@...> wrote:

I don't know the back story on this, but I agree, and the latest I observed the behavior, it was a much smaller sum of money than being discussed here. Seen this a few times....

Die broke, that's my plan, and I am well on track!

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I don't know the back story on this, but I agree, and the latest I observed the behavior, it was a much smaller sum of money than being discussed here. Seen this a few times....

Die broke, that's my plan, and I am well on track!

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On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 22:02, Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:

? The passing of a person with money brings out the very worst of
humanity.? I've seen this with my own eyes, when only a little bit of
money was involved.? This was a LOT of money.

? Of course nobody knows what actually happened, but it really doesn't
look good, and it looks very familiar.

Could someone provide a brief background on what has happened here? The first I heard is the very first post in this thread, and I feel I came in part way through the conversation.

Not much to say.?

Remember that Seattle & the Puget Sound was one of the first US hot spots of Coronavirus.? The LCM+L building closed in March and ceased all virtually operations (such as most online access) at end of June. The entire division is shutdown:

Paul Allen had many eclectic (even eccentric) interests combined with lots of civil pride.? It appears his heirs do not have the same interests.

-ahd-

p.s. My usual LCM+L related disclaimers apply.?

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Drew Derbyshire

"Today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth,"
                                 -- "The Pride of the Yankees"