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Re: Sorry, for these four simple questions, but ...

 

Yes, I should have left off the -C. So it should?just be

0009 3215

Joe

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:50 AM Jay Maynard <jaymaynard@...> wrote:
Not quite. 3215-C is integrated into the Hercules console. So, in fact, the Hercules console is logged in as OPERATOR. Note that OPERATOR doesn't IPL CMS automatically; if you want to use CMS on that, you have to 'I CMS' (preceded by the console prefix character, normally / ).

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:45 AM Joe Monk <joemonk64@...> wrote:
So generally ...

009 3215-C would be the device entry for the console. You should open a REGULAR TELNET (NOT TN3270) session and connect to hercules (i..e hercules already running, but VM not yet IPL'd). That will connect to 009.

Joe

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:13 AM Bertram Moshier <herc370390vm@...> wrote:
Hi,

First, I know OPERATOR is logged into 009, but where is 009 physically on my computer?

At first I thought it was the Hercules console, but it clearly isn't OPERATOR.

When I try to log into OPERATOR, I get the error message - already logged on at 009.

So where is it?

Second issue:? On the Herc console, when I do ? a very long list of commands appear and in fact look to go off the screen (but I can't scroll back).? How does one see all the Hercules commands via ? ?

Is there a better way to see all the commands?

Finally, What do you think of the GUI interface to Herc?? Is it worth the money?? (I'm talking about the pay for GUI Herc interface.)

Oh, damn, a fourth and final question:? Are there instructions I can read on adding storage?? I'd like to add some additional drives and then create some new USERIDS?for VM.? I did this as a systems programmer, but I know there are some differences (especially in creating the physical hardware).

When I look at the DMKRIO?ASSEMBLE on the F disk, I notice drives not found in the?vm370ce.conf file.? What am I missing?

Thanks! :)?




--
Jay Maynard


Re: Sorry, for these four simple questions, but ...

 

Not quite. 3215-C is integrated into the Hercules console. So, in fact, the Hercules console is logged in as OPERATOR. Note that OPERATOR doesn't IPL CMS automatically; if you want to use CMS on that, you have to 'I CMS' (preceded by the console prefix character, normally / ).


On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:45 AM Joe Monk <joemonk64@...> wrote:
So generally ...

009 3215-C would be the device entry for the console. You should open a REGULAR TELNET (NOT TN3270) session and connect to hercules (i..e hercules already running, but VM not yet IPL'd). That will connect to 009.

Joe

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:13 AM Bertram Moshier <herc370390vm@...> wrote:
Hi,

First, I know OPERATOR is logged into 009, but where is 009 physically on my computer?

At first I thought it was the Hercules console, but it clearly isn't OPERATOR.

When I try to log into OPERATOR, I get the error message - already logged on at 009.

So where is it?

Second issue:? On the Herc console, when I do ? a very long list of commands appear and in fact look to go off the screen (but I can't scroll back).? How does one see all the Hercules commands via ? ?

Is there a better way to see all the commands?

Finally, What do you think of the GUI interface to Herc?? Is it worth the money?? (I'm talking about the pay for GUI Herc interface.)

Oh, damn, a fourth and final question:? Are there instructions I can read on adding storage?? I'd like to add some additional drives and then create some new USERIDS?for VM.? I did this as a systems programmer, but I know there are some differences (especially in creating the physical hardware).

When I look at the DMKRIO?ASSEMBLE on the F disk, I notice drives not found in the?vm370ce.conf file.? What am I missing?

Thanks! :)?




--
Jay Maynard


Re: Sorry, for these four simple questions, but ...

 

So generally ...

009 3215-C would be the device entry for the console. You should open a REGULAR TELNET (NOT TN3270) session and connect to hercules (i..e hercules already running, but VM not yet IPL'd). That will connect to 009.

Joe

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:13 AM Bertram Moshier <herc370390vm@...> wrote:
Hi,

First, I know OPERATOR is logged into 009, but where is 009 physically on my computer?

At first I thought it was the Hercules console, but it clearly isn't OPERATOR.

When I try to log into OPERATOR, I get the error message - already logged on at 009.

So where is it?

Second issue:? On the Herc console, when I do ? a very long list of commands appear and in fact look to go off the screen (but I can't scroll back).? How does one see all the Hercules commands via ? ?

Is there a better way to see all the commands?

Finally, What do you think of the GUI interface to Herc?? Is it worth the money?? (I'm talking about the pay for GUI Herc interface.)

Oh, damn, a fourth and final question:? Are there instructions I can read on adding storage?? I'd like to add some additional drives and then create some new USERIDS?for VM.? I did this as a systems programmer, but I know there are some differences (especially in creating the physical hardware).

When I look at the DMKRIO?ASSEMBLE on the F disk, I notice drives not found in the?vm370ce.conf file.? What am I missing?

Thanks! :)?



I'm not seeing all the messages from the group. Thoughts?

 

Hi,

I'm trying to reduce the amount of email on my ?personal email by creating this one.

My issue is I'm not seeing all the messages that are coming in after signing up this email address.? An example are the "Re: [h390-vm] Possible bug in BREXX parse instruction" messages.

Thoughts?? Thanks in advance.


Sorry, for these four simple questions, but ...

 

Hi,

First, I know OPERATOR is logged into 009, but where is 009 physically on my computer?

At first I thought it was the Hercules console, but it clearly isn't OPERATOR.

When I try to log into OPERATOR, I get the error message - already logged on at 009.

So where is it?

Second issue:? On the Herc console, when I do ? a very long list of commands appear and in fact look to go off the screen (but I can't scroll back).? How does one see all the Hercules commands via ? ?

Is there a better way to see all the commands?

Finally, What do you think of the GUI interface to Herc?? Is it worth the money?? (I'm talking about the pay for GUI Herc interface.)

Oh, damn, a fourth and final question:? Are there instructions I can read on adding storage?? I'd like to add some additional drives and then create some new USERIDS?for VM.? I did this as a systems programmer, but I know there are some differences (especially in creating the physical hardware).

When I look at the DMKRIO?ASSEMBLE on the F disk, I notice drives not found in the?vm370ce.conf file.? What am I missing?

Thanks! :)?



Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

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I think we are confused about what you are asking. IBM implemented the OSI 7-layer model via multiple products, two of which I remember were

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OSI/FILE SERVICES ¨C provides for FTAM file transfers

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&

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OSI/COMMUNICATION SUBSYSTEM ¨C which provides the underlying OSI network layers¡­..

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¡­ I never did manage to transfer a file using these products¡­.

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¡­ if you are asking about TCP/IP then I always thought that came from the University of Wisconsin but in this rather long thread about TCP/IP on MVS

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Lynn Wheeler, whose posts I generally trust, asserts it was an IBM product. I assume IBM wrote it in Pascal because that was the nearest think to ¡°C¡± they had at the time¡­

.. and of course the MVS product was basically the VM product ported to MVS. It required some extra work as there was no VMCF or IUCV in MVS¡­

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.. and if its SNA, which IBM has suggested is OSI layer compliant, then for a long time there was no SNA in VM. Some might say there still isn¡¯t as basically what you get is the MVS VTAM machine running under GCS which is a ¡°sort of virtual MVS¡±¡­

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Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Burke
Sent: 19 October 2022 22:49
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

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On Oct 19, 2022, at 2:29 PM, Bertram Moshier <BertramMoshier@...> wrote:

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So, the work to get VM/CE to support the OSI 7 layer model would be about the same as what it took IBM to do initially.? Am I?missing something?



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When did IBM support OSI 7 layer model??



They supported SNA.?



I was involved with adding X.25 to IBM 3705 in EP mode. IBM had X.25 support in NCP mode as a RFPQ.?




Michael

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Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

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On Oct 19, 2022, at 2:29 PM, Bertram Moshier <BertramMoshier@...> wrote:

So, the work to get VM/CE to support the OSI 7 layer model would be about the same as what it took IBM to do initially.? Am I?missing something?

==================

When did IBM support OSI 7 layer model??

They supported SNA.?

I was involved with adding X.25 to IBM 3705 in EP mode. IBM had X.25 support in NCP mode as a RFPQ.?


Michael

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Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

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Rene,

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Yes, very similar. I didn¡¯t know it had stopped working. Could be the SYSNAME. Might be worth having a long.

The ¡®75¡¯ TCPIP instruction as well¡­.

Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ren¨¦ Ferland
Sent: 19 October 2022 22:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:47 PM, Dave Wade wrote:

It could be less if you leverage the support in the underlying host OS => windows/linux/macos.

Isn't it (in a certain way) what the NICOF program of Hans Latz was doing? I remember there was a disconnected virtual machine TCPIPXY running on VM/370 and a Java machine on the host connecting to it.

Personally, I liked NICOF quite much, although it was probably not very secure (and never pretended to be if I am right). NICOF does not work on VM/370 CE anymore. Someone told me that the connection between the Java machine and the TCPIPXY virtual machine gets confused by the SYSNAME added in Sixpack 1.3. But It could be something else.

?

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

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Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:47 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
It could be less if you leverage the support in the underlying host OS => windows/linux/macos.
Isn't it (in a certain way) what the NICOF program of Hans Latz was doing? I remember there was a disconnected virtual machine TCPIPXY running on VM/370 and a Java machine on the host connecting to it.

Personally, I liked NICOF quite much, although it was probably not very secure (and never pretended to be if I am right). NICOF does not work on VM/370 CE anymore. Someone told me that the connection between the Java machine and the TCPIPXY virtual machine gets confused by the SYSNAME added in Sixpack 1.3. But It could be something else.
?
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

"I'd be happy to join a future team looking at adding the OSI 7 layer (better known as TCP/I:) to VM/CE."

TCP/IP only uses layers 3 and 4.?

Joe

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 3:44 PM Bertram Moshier <BertramMoshier@...> wrote:
Harold,

Support for TCP/IP would include the physical layer of the OSI model.? Thus Hercules would need to support the myriad?number of devices one can hook to the IBM iron.? Now I see a large part of the problem.? I was just thinking of the OSI model, itself.

When working at Cray, I spent over 2 years dealing with and programming various parts of the OSI model on Cray and OS/2.? We were working on porting the model to these software and hardware platforms.? Of course, others were providing the drivers for the hardware.

It would be really nice to have this for VM/CE, but you're right it would be a team effort.

(From my perspective, at the higher layers (3+) the various devices (like all the SNA devices) didn't matter.)

I'd be happy to join a future team looking at adding the OSI 7 layer (better known as TCP/I:) to VM/CE.

Bert.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:18 AM Harold Grovesteen <h.grovsteen@...> wrote:
The answer to your middle question is A LOT of work.? All of it in C and coded to Hercules internal constructs.

However, there is no need to create a "new" device for Internet connectivity.? The issue is not Hercules, but the guest OS (VM I am assuming) lacks TCP/IP intelligence.? At this vintage of guest operating system, Hercules offers the TCPIP instruction.? It allows non-privileged access to the host's native TCP interface for connecting to a host socket.? This interface has been used to support TCP on MVS.? What VM/370 work would be required to allow a CMS virtual machine to do the same is an unanswered question.

There are a number of "devices" already supported by Hercules for IP connectivity.? Again, this vintage of VM knows nothing about these Hercules devices, per se.? Someone who understands the internals of VM/370 would be able to assist with connecting such a device to a CMS guest.? Some of these device uses CTC channel protocol that VM/370 understands.? I think the work there is much less.? Getting CMS the "intelligence" to use the CTC device is another challenge.? The MVS programs that use the TCPIP instruction might provide a foundation for coding a server or client program.

Just a few thoughts on your "middle" question.

Harold Grovesteen

On Mon, 2022-10-17 at 03:21 -0500, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Hi,

I have three questions.? As a side note, I'm a ham radio operator (WB8ERT) and use DMR.

My left field question would be for fellow ham radio operators.? I understand getting a PI-Raspberry to operate as? a transmit and receive DMR.? Just for fun, I'm wondering about doing the same using VM.? Is it possible, in theory?? I think it should be possible.? The DMR code is in C.? SIO to send and receive and yet . . .

Middle question:? What is involved in getting herc to see a new device that would then be seen by VM?? I know from my work at Cray Research, Inc, creating hardware for S/370 systems is possible.? We had two hardware devices to talk to a Cray.? One looked like a CTC to the S/370 and the other was by Network Systems.? To our Station software, they looked very similar.? I also worked on the Seagate STK4400 to Cray-1 and Cray-2 interface (using tape connected to the Cray and a 3270 hardware (as I remember) to control the STK for S/370 systems.

Right field:? Is there an HTTPD for VM/CE? By this I mean a HTTP server for VM/CE?? OH, is it possible again on VM/CE to run a line by line browser.? (Yeah, I remember using the Internet using a line by line browser (but not on VM).? We connected to an Unix system for our Internet work.

Thank you for your time and consideration.


Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

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Bertram,

Whilst licencing is difficult, most any IBM OS works on Hercules.

TCP/IP does not use the ISO 7-layer model. If you think it does please explain where the ¡°presentation¡± layer is implemented.

The work to make VM/CE understand TCP/IP could be similar to the work done to make VM/370 understand TCP/IP

It could be less if you leverage the support in the underlying host OS => windows/linux/macos.

Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bertram Moshier
Sent: 19 October 2022 21:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

?

Hello,

?

I'm assuming the work necessary to get VM/CE to recognize the OSI 7 layer model is the same as on any hardware supporting the Internet, right?

?

I mean Hercules needs to look like real iron.? Thus someone with the legal right would be able to take z/VM or VM/ESA have it run - unmodified on Hercules.

?

So, the work to get VM/CE to support the OSI 7 layer model would be about the same as what it took IBM to do initially.? Am I?missing something?

?

Thank you

?

?

?

?

?

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:18 AM Harold Grovesteen <h.grovsteen@...> wrote:

The answer to your middle question is A LOT of work.? All of it in C and coded to Hercules internal constructs.

?

However, there is no need to create a "new" device for Internet connectivity.? The issue is not Hercules, but the guest OS (VM I am assuming) lacks TCP/IP intelligence.? At this vintage of guest operating system, Hercules offers the TCPIP instruction.? It allows non-privileged access to the host's native TCP interface for connecting to a host socket.? This interface has been used to support TCP on MVS.? What VM/370 work would be required to allow a CMS virtual machine to do the same is an unanswered question.

?

There are a number of "devices" already supported by Hercules for IP connectivity.? Again, this vintage of VM knows nothing about these Hercules devices, per se.? Someone who understands the internals of VM/370 would be able to assist with connecting such a device to a CMS guest.? Some of these device uses CTC channel protocol that VM/370 understands.? I think the work there is much less.? Getting CMS the "intelligence" to use the CTC device is another challenge.? The MVS programs that use the TCPIP instruction might provide a foundation for coding a server or client program.

?

Just a few thoughts on your "middle" question.

?

Harold Grovesteen

?

On Mon, 2022-10-17 at 03:21 -0500, Bertram Moshier wrote:

Hi,

?

I have three questions.? As a side note, I'm a ham radio operator (WB8ERT) and use DMR.

?

My left field question would be for fellow ham radio operators.? I understand getting a PI-Raspberry to operate as? a transmit and receive DMR.? Just for fun, I'm wondering about doing the same using VM.? Is it possible, in theory?? I think it should be possible.? The DMR code is in C.? SIO to send and receive and yet . . .

?

Middle question:? What is involved in getting herc to see a new device that would then be seen by VM?? I know from my work at Cray Research, Inc, creating hardware for S/370 systems is possible.? We had two hardware devices to talk to a Cray.? One looked like a CTC to the S/370 and the other was by Network Systems.? To our Station software, they looked very similar.? I also worked on the Seagate STK4400 to Cray-1 and Cray-2 interface (using tape connected to the Cray and a 3270 hardware (as I remember) to control the STK for S/370 systems.

?

Right field:? Is there an HTTPD for VM/CE? By this I mean a HTTP server for VM/CE?? OH, is it possible again on VM/CE to run a line by line browser.? (Yeah, I remember using the Internet using a line by line browser (but not on VM).? We connected to an Unix system for our Internet work.

?

Thank you for your time and consideration.

?


Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

Harold,

Support for TCP/IP would include the physical layer of the OSI model.? Thus Hercules would need to support the myriad?number of devices one can hook to the IBM iron.? Now I see a large part of the problem.? I was just thinking of the OSI model, itself.

When working at Cray, I spent over 2 years dealing with and programming various parts of the OSI model on Cray and OS/2.? We were working on porting the model to these software and hardware platforms.? Of course, others were providing the drivers for the hardware.

It would be really nice to have this for VM/CE, but you're right it would be a team effort.

(From my perspective, at the higher layers (3+) the various devices (like all the SNA devices) didn't matter.)

I'd be happy to join a future team looking at adding the OSI 7 layer (better known as TCP/I:) to VM/CE.

Bert.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:18 AM Harold Grovesteen <h.grovsteen@...> wrote:
The answer to your middle question is A LOT of work.? All of it in C and coded to Hercules internal constructs.

However, there is no need to create a "new" device for Internet connectivity.? The issue is not Hercules, but the guest OS (VM I am assuming) lacks TCP/IP intelligence.? At this vintage of guest operating system, Hercules offers the TCPIP instruction.? It allows non-privileged access to the host's native TCP interface for connecting to a host socket.? This interface has been used to support TCP on MVS.? What VM/370 work would be required to allow a CMS virtual machine to do the same is an unanswered question.

There are a number of "devices" already supported by Hercules for IP connectivity.? Again, this vintage of VM knows nothing about these Hercules devices, per se.? Someone who understands the internals of VM/370 would be able to assist with connecting such a device to a CMS guest.? Some of these device uses CTC channel protocol that VM/370 understands.? I think the work there is much less.? Getting CMS the "intelligence" to use the CTC device is another challenge.? The MVS programs that use the TCPIP instruction might provide a foundation for coding a server or client program.

Just a few thoughts on your "middle" question.

Harold Grovesteen

On Mon, 2022-10-17 at 03:21 -0500, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Hi,

I have three questions.? As a side note, I'm a ham radio operator (WB8ERT) and use DMR.

My left field question would be for fellow ham radio operators.? I understand getting a PI-Raspberry to operate as? a transmit and receive DMR.? Just for fun, I'm wondering about doing the same using VM.? Is it possible, in theory?? I think it should be possible.? The DMR code is in C.? SIO to send and receive and yet . . .

Middle question:? What is involved in getting herc to see a new device that would then be seen by VM?? I know from my work at Cray Research, Inc, creating hardware for S/370 systems is possible.? We had two hardware devices to talk to a Cray.? One looked like a CTC to the S/370 and the other was by Network Systems.? To our Station software, they looked very similar.? I also worked on the Seagate STK4400 to Cray-1 and Cray-2 interface (using tape connected to the Cray and a 3270 hardware (as I remember) to control the STK for S/370 systems.

Right field:? Is there an HTTPD for VM/CE? By this I mean a HTTP server for VM/CE?? OH, is it possible again on VM/CE to run a line by line browser.? (Yeah, I remember using the Internet using a line by line browser (but not on VM).? We connected to an Unix system for our Internet work.

Thank you for your time and consideration.


Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

Martin,

Thank you for the information / link.

Bert

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:03 AM Martin Scheffler <San-Lorenzo@...> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:21 AM, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Right field:? Is there an HTTPD for VM/CE?
There is no TCP/IP in VM/CE.
See - an early IBM implementation.

Martin


Re: Three questions about VM/CE (Left, middle, and right field question)

 

Hello,

I'm assuming the work necessary to get VM/CE to recognize the OSI 7 layer model is the same as on any hardware supporting the Internet, right?

I mean Hercules needs to look like real iron.? Thus someone with the legal right would be able to take z/VM or VM/ESA have it run - unmodified on Hercules.

So, the work to get VM/CE to support the OSI 7 layer model would be about the same as what it took IBM to do initially.? Am I?missing something?

Thank you





On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:18 AM Harold Grovesteen <h.grovsteen@...> wrote:
The answer to your middle question is A LOT of work.? All of it in C and coded to Hercules internal constructs.

However, there is no need to create a "new" device for Internet connectivity.? The issue is not Hercules, but the guest OS (VM I am assuming) lacks TCP/IP intelligence.? At this vintage of guest operating system, Hercules offers the TCPIP instruction.? It allows non-privileged access to the host's native TCP interface for connecting to a host socket.? This interface has been used to support TCP on MVS.? What VM/370 work would be required to allow a CMS virtual machine to do the same is an unanswered question.

There are a number of "devices" already supported by Hercules for IP connectivity.? Again, this vintage of VM knows nothing about these Hercules devices, per se.? Someone who understands the internals of VM/370 would be able to assist with connecting such a device to a CMS guest.? Some of these device uses CTC channel protocol that VM/370 understands.? I think the work there is much less.? Getting CMS the "intelligence" to use the CTC device is another challenge.? The MVS programs that use the TCPIP instruction might provide a foundation for coding a server or client program.

Just a few thoughts on your "middle" question.

Harold Grovesteen

On Mon, 2022-10-17 at 03:21 -0500, Bertram Moshier wrote:
Hi,

I have three questions.? As a side note, I'm a ham radio operator (WB8ERT) and use DMR.

My left field question would be for fellow ham radio operators.? I understand getting a PI-Raspberry to operate as? a transmit and receive DMR.? Just for fun, I'm wondering about doing the same using VM.? Is it possible, in theory?? I think it should be possible.? The DMR code is in C.? SIO to send and receive and yet . . .

Middle question:? What is involved in getting herc to see a new device that would then be seen by VM?? I know from my work at Cray Research, Inc, creating hardware for S/370 systems is possible.? We had two hardware devices to talk to a Cray.? One looked like a CTC to the S/370 and the other was by Network Systems.? To our Station software, they looked very similar.? I also worked on the Seagate STK4400 to Cray-1 and Cray-2 interface (using tape connected to the Cray and a 3270 hardware (as I remember) to control the STK for S/370 systems.

Right field:? Is there an HTTPD for VM/CE? By this I mean a HTTP server for VM/CE?? OH, is it possible again on VM/CE to run a line by line browser.? (Yeah, I remember using the Internet using a line by line browser (but not on VM).? We connected to an Unix system for our Internet work.

Thank you for your time and consideration.


Hello

 

Hello,

This is a test.


FIX: Issue #72 -- EE changes the file mode number : binaries available #VMCE #github

 

Binaries available for fix of :

/g/h390-vm/files/MECAFF%20tools:%20fixes%20and%20features/EE125A72.VMARC



diff eecore.c.e eecore.c.a?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
901a902????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
>?? fm[1] = fInfo->filemode[1];? /* preserve file mode number of existing file */??? ?
Ready(00001); T=0.18/0.22 07:39:59?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
diff eemain.h.f eemain.h.a?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
24c24??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
< #define VERSION "V1.2.5"?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
---????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
> #define VERSION "V1.2.5a72" /* https://github.com/s390guy/vm370/issues/72 fixed */ ?
Ready(00001); T=0.03/0.04 05:21:53?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
vmarc list EE125A72 VMARC A????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
EEMAIN?? H??????? A1. Bytes in=??? 4400, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?
EECORE?? C??????? A1. Bytes in=?? 24160, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?
EECORE?? TEXT???? A1. Bytes in=?? 22800, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?
EEMAIN?? TEXT???? A1. Bytes in=?? 13440, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?
EE$D???? MAP????? A5. Bytes in=??? 5920, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?
EE$D???? MODULE?? A1. Bytes in=? 162480, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?
EE$S???? MAP????? A5. Bytes in=??? 5920, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?
EE$S???? MODULE?? A1. Bytes in=? 162400, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?
EE$VMARC EXEC???? A1. Bytes in=???? 400, bytes out=?????? 0 (???? 0%).?????????????? ?


File /MECAFF tools: fixes and features/EE125A72.VMARC uploaded #file-notice

Group Notification
 

The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Martin Scheffler <San-Lorenzo@...>

Description:
Binaries for fix of https://github.com/s390guy/vm370/issues/72 EE changes the file mode number diff eecore.c.e eecore.c.a 901a902 > fm[1] = fInfo->filemode[1]; /* preserve file mode number of existing file */ Ready(00001); T=0.18/0.22 07:39:59 diff eemain.h.f eemain.h.a 24c24 < #define VERSION "V1.2.5" --- > #define VERSION "V1.2.5a72" /* https://github.com/s390guy/vm370/issues/72 fixed */ Ready(00001); T=0.03/0.04 05:21:53 vmarc list EE125A72 VMARC A EEMAIN H A1. Bytes in= 4400, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). EECORE C A1. Bytes in= 24160, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). EECORE TEXT A1. Bytes in= 22800, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). EEMAIN TEXT A1. Bytes in= 13440, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). EE$D MAP A5. Bytes in= 5920, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). EE$D MODULE A1. Bytes in= 162480, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). EE$S MAP A5. Bytes in= 5920, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). EE$S MODULE A1. Bytes in= 162400, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). EE$VMARC EXEC A1. Bytes in= 400, bytes out= 0 ( 0%).


Re: Possible bug in BREXX parse instruction

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:41 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
It doesn't work in VM370. Jason won't release the source so I can't fix. The library is full of OS macros which breaks many things we do on VM
Well, that's the end of that, isn't it? :-)

?... Mark S.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to code C.


Re: Possible bug in BREXX parse instruction

 

I also have some qualms about some of the macros on MVS.? I may have misread the documentation, but it is unclear - to me - how reading the VTOC works.

All the best

MA


Re: Possible bug in BREXX parse instruction

 

It doesn't work in VM370. Jason won't release the source so I can't fix. The library is full of OS macros which breaks many things we do on VM

Dave


On Tue, 18 Oct 2022, 03:55 Martin Scheffler, <San-Lorenzo@...> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 02:39 AM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
Makes me wonder if the VM group should consider using JCC rather than GCC. Do you have? Pros/Cons for these two compilers someplace?

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