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Anyone know what these are?


 

I¡¯ve had these machine tool parts for about 10 years now. I got them from a machinist that went to a nursing home and never got to ask him what they were. They¡¯re marked with common thread sizes but the actual pitch is half of what they are labeled as. All I can think is they¡¯re for a screw cutting operation on a lathe that doesn¡¯t have screw gears? There are no makers marks on the parts or the box other than the latch says Prestolock Co.? They seem to be very well made.?



 

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On Apr 20, 2025, at 12:08?PM, Jacob Coby via groups.io <jacob.coby@...> wrote:

I¡¯ve had these machine tool parts for about 10 years now. I got them from a machinist that went to a nursing home and never got to ask him what they were. They¡¯re marked with common thread sizes but the actual pitch is half of what they are labeled as. All I can think is they¡¯re for a screw cutting operation on a lathe that doesn¡¯t have screw gears? There are no makers marks on the parts or the box other than the latch says Prestolock Co.? They seem to be very well made.?

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They look like expanding mandrels for holding a part on the ID.


 

Unfortunately they don¡¯t have a way to expand. They also have a drive pin on one end and a center in the end that¡¯s labeled with the thread pitch.?



On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:40?PM J Jones via <cmmguy=[email protected]> wrote:
They look like expanding mandrels for holding a part on the ID.


 

Also a file skates over them like glass. Probably 60+ Rockwell?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:50?PM Jacob Coby via <jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Unfortunately they don¡¯t have a way to expand. They also have a drive pin on one end and a center in the end that¡¯s labeled with the thread pitch.?



On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:40?PM J Jones via <cmmguy=[email protected]> wrote:
They look like expanding mandrels for holding a part on the ID.


 

I'm not sure, I haven't used something like that before


On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:53 PM, Jacob Coby via groups.io
<jacob.coby@...> wrote:
Also a file skates over them like glass. Probably 60+ Rockwell?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:50?PM Jacob Coby via <jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Unfortunately they don¡¯t have a way to expand. They also have a drive pin on one end and a center in the end that¡¯s labeled with the thread pitch.?



On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:40?PM J Jones via <cmmguy=[email protected]> wrote:
They look like expanding mandrels for holding a part on the ID.


 

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I¡¯m in a machinist group. I will share your post there.?


On Apr 20, 2025, at 1:02?PM, waylon woodall via groups.io <Doubleu_84@...> wrote:

?I'm not sure, I haven't used something like that before


On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:53 PM, Jacob Coby via groups.io
<jacob.coby@...> wrote:
Also a file skates over them like glass. Probably 60+ Rockwell?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:50?PM Jacob Coby via <jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Unfortunately they don¡¯t have a way to expand. They also have a drive pin on one end and a center in the end that¡¯s labeled with the thread pitch.?

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On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:40?PM J Jones via <cmmguy=[email protected]> wrote:
They look like expanding mandrels for holding a part on the ID.

<Image_250420_125027.jpeg>
<Image_250420_125002.jpeg>


 

See the slit down the length of that OD?? That certainly looks like an allowance for expansion.


 

Are you looking at the phenolic sleeve? I never thought they were part of the tool but I suppose that¡¯s a possibility. Oddly enough they all have that slit except for the one labeled as -13. I always assumed it was there to make them easier to remove from the sleeve.?

All of the sleeves measure approximately the same. 3/4 necking down to 5/8.?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 2:13?PM J Jones via <cmmguy=[email protected]> wrote:
See the slit down the length of that OD?? That certainly looks like an allowance for expansion.


 

Thanks. I¡¯d love to find out what they are. Best I can tell they¡¯re a threading guide for something like a production lathe or even something like the Hardinge cataract lathe or some other small precision lathe but I¡¯ve never been able to find anything definitive.?

With about 5¡± of thread at half pitch you¡¯re only going to get maybe 1-2¡± of thread out of one of these things.?

It¡¯s also weird the thread itself is a 60 degree v thread. For something that would drive a lathe I would have expected something more like an acme thread or other prismatic or square thread.?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 1:57?PM Jerry Tice via <gttice=[email protected]> wrote:
I¡¯m in a machinist group. I will share your post there.?


On Apr 20, 2025, at 1:02?PM, waylon woodall via <Doubleu_84=[email protected]> wrote:

?I'm not sure, I haven't used something like that before


On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:53 PM, Jacob Coby via
<jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Also a file skates over them like glass. Probably 60+ Rockwell?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:50?PM Jacob Coby via <jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Unfortunately they don¡¯t have a way to expand. They also have a drive pin on one end and a center in the end that¡¯s labeled with the thread pitch.?

<Image_250420_125002.jpeg>
<Image_250420_125027.jpeg>


On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:40?PM J Jones via <cmmguy=[email protected]> wrote:
They look like expanding mandrels for holding a part on the ID.

<Image_250420_125027.jpeg>
<Image_250420_125002.jpeg>


 

They look like a good fit to support an older industry (by a "qualified" technician)...such as printing press production line.

Bet placed: $40 to the museum if I lose.


On Sun, Apr 20, 2025, 3:03 PM Jacob Coby via <jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks. I¡¯d love to find out what they are. Best I can tell they¡¯re a threading guide for something like a production lathe or even something like the Hardinge cataract lathe or some other small precision lathe but I¡¯ve never been able to find anything definitive.?

With about 5¡± of thread at half pitch you¡¯re only going to get maybe 1-2¡± of thread out of one of these things.?

It¡¯s also weird the thread itself is a 60 degree v thread. For something that would drive a lathe I would have expected something more like an acme thread or other prismatic or square thread.?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 1:57?PM Jerry Tice via <gttice=[email protected]> wrote:
I¡¯m in a machinist group. I will share your post there.?


On Apr 20, 2025, at 1:02?PM, waylon woodall via <Doubleu_84=[email protected]> wrote:

?I'm not sure, I haven't used something like that before


On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:53 PM, Jacob Coby via
<jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Also a file skates over them like glass. Probably 60+ Rockwell?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:50?PM Jacob Coby via <jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Unfortunately they don¡¯t have a way to expand. They also have a drive pin on one end and a center in the end that¡¯s labeled with the thread pitch.?

<Image_250420_125002.jpeg>
<Image_250420_125027.jpeg>


On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 12:40?PM J Jones via <cmmguy=[email protected]> wrote:
They look like expanding mandrels for holding a part on the ID.

<Image_250420_125027.jpeg>
<Image_250420_125002.jpeg>


 

Those are finigan pins that usually fit into a maurader?assembly.

Mark

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 2:57?PM Jacob Coby via <jacob.coby=[email protected]> wrote:
Are you looking at the phenolic sleeve? I never thought they were part of the tool but I suppose that¡¯s a possibility. Oddly enough they all have that slit except for the one labeled as -13. I always assumed it was there to make them easier to remove from the sleeve.?

All of the sleeves measure approximately the same. 3/4 necking down to 5/8.?

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 2:13?PM J Jones via <cmmguy=[email protected]> wrote:
See the slit down the length of that OD?? That certainly looks like an allowance for expansion.