Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
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On Tue., Oct. 27, 2020, 11:15 a.m. John Sechrest, < sechrest@...> wrote: I am slowly building a spreadsheet of tools.?
I am finding that the nuances of what people?care about, the types of meetings they are trying to structure, and the flow of the meetings varies a great deal. So I am still in the what features are important phase of things.?
You can see the fill list of tools here:
I have a big desire to support "The law of two feet", which is that people can mingle at will.?
I am told that zoom now supports this, but I can't seem to get it to work.?
Airmeet and remo are the only two that support this well enough.?
The first question is: "What kind meeting are you trying to hold?"
1) How big? 2) Will you have a specific flow? 3) Do you need mingling? 4) Do you need small group meetings? 5) Do you need voting, discussion notes, whiteboards, chat backchannels? 6) Do you need facilitators with powers? 7) Do you need many events at once? 8) Do you need the ability to randomize small groups? 9) Do you need the ability to mix two different classes of attendees? 10) Do you need to force everyone back into the main meeting? 11) ....
What are the features that make it possible for you to do what you need? Then given these features, which is best then becomes possible to answer.
Can you please outline the key features of your meeting?
Hello everyone! I was sure that someone had started or shared a table analyzing the features of different online platform alternatives to Zoom. I can¡¯t seem to find it now after doing a search. Does such a magical thing exist or am I just dreaming?? Thank you!! Catherine
Learning & Evaluation Specialist
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Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
What organizations do endorsements in a way that is trackable? IE, how would we know about the endorsements?
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:37 AM David Gouthro < david@...> wrote: John, another criteria to consider is whether or not the platforms have received some sort of endorsement vis a vis meeting privacy requirements.? For example, fr many government and other public institutions, Google products don¡¯t make the cut.? So using them in conjunction with Zoom (assuming THAT is allowed) is not possible, even though Google Docs and Google Sheets are great for capturing breakout room content very efficiently.
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The Consulting Edge
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On Oct 27, 2020, at 8:14 AM, John Sechrest < sechrest@...> wrote:
I am slowly building a spreadsheet of tools.?
I am finding that the nuances of what people?care about, the types of meetings they are trying to structure, and the flow of the meetings varies a great deal. So I am still in the what features are important phase of things.?
You can see the fill list of tools here:
I have a big desire to support "The law of two feet", which is that people can mingle at will.?
I am told that zoom now supports this, but I can't seem to get it to work.?
Airmeet and remo are the only two that support this well enough.?
The first question is: "What kind meeting are you trying to hold?"
1) How big? 2) Will you have a specific flow? 3) Do you need mingling? 4) Do you need small group meetings? 5) Do you need voting, discussion notes, whiteboards, chat backchannels? 6) Do you need facilitators with powers? 7) Do you need many events at once? 8) Do you need the ability to randomize small groups? 9) Do you need the ability to mix two different classes of attendees? 10) Do you need to force everyone back into the main meeting? 11) ....
What are the features that make it possible for you to do what you need? Then given these features, which is best then becomes possible to answer.
Can you please outline the key features of your meeting?
Hello everyone! I was sure that someone had started or shared a table analyzing the features of different online platform alternatives to Zoom. I can¡¯t seem to find it now after doing a search. Does such a magical thing exist or am I just dreaming?? Thank you!! Catherine
Learning & Evaluation Specialist
BLOG:
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JOHN SECHREST
Founder,?Seattle Angel Conference
? @sechrest
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Founder,?Seattle Angel Conference
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Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
John, another criteria to consider is whether or not the platforms have received some sort of endorsement vis a vis meeting privacy requirements. ?For example, fr many government and other public institutions, Google products don¡¯t make the cut. ?So using them in conjunction with Zoom (assuming THAT is allowed) is not possible, even though Google Docs and Google Sheets are great for capturing breakout room content very efficiently.
David Gouthro, CSP
The Consulting Edge
102-2221 Folkestone Way
West Vancouver, BC V7S 2Y6
(604) 926-6858
"How different our world would?be if collaboration triumphed over competition every time.¡±
[#calmference, #calmvention, #calm-versation, #dancingonshiftingsands]
URL:? LinkedIn Profile:?
Skype: davidgouthro
Twitter: @davidgouthro
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On Oct 27, 2020, at 8:14 AM, John Sechrest < sechrest@...> wrote:
I am slowly building a spreadsheet of tools.?
I am finding that the nuances of what people?care about, the types of meetings they are trying to structure, and the flow of the meetings varies a great deal. So I am still in the what features are important phase of things.?
You can see the fill list of tools here:
I have a big desire to support "The law of two feet", which is that people can mingle at will.?
I am told that zoom now supports this, but I can't seem to get it to work.?
Airmeet and remo are the only two that support this well enough.?
The first question is: "What kind meeting are you trying to hold?"
1) How big? 2) Will you have a specific flow? 3) Do you need mingling? 4) Do you need small group meetings? 5) Do you need voting, discussion notes, whiteboards, chat backchannels? 6) Do you need facilitators with powers? 7) Do you need many events at once? 8) Do you need the ability to randomize small groups? 9) Do you need the ability to mix two different classes of attendees? 10) Do you need to force everyone back into the main meeting? 11) ....
What are the features that make it possible for you to do what you need? Then given these features, which is best then becomes possible to answer.
Can you please outline the key features of your meeting?
Hello everyone! I was sure that someone had started or shared a table analyzing the features of different online platform alternatives to Zoom. I can¡¯t seem to find it now after doing a search. Does such a magical thing exist or am I just dreaming?? Thank you!! Catherine
Learning & Evaluation Specialist
BLOG:
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JOHN SECHREST
Founder,?Seattle Angel Conference
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Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
Thanks everyone for your suggestions!
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Hello Catherine, in Horizons we have done a comparison of Zoom, Webex and Teams - might that be helpful?
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Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
Hi Bev,
Can you outline the features that you compared Zoom / Webex and Teams against?
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 6:16 AM bev.matthews via <bev.matthews= [email protected]> wrote: Hello Catherine, in Horizons we have done a comparison of Zoom, Webex and Teams - might that be helpful?
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JOHN SECHREST
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Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
I am slowly building a spreadsheet of tools.?
I am finding that the nuances of what people?care about, the types of meetings they are trying to structure, and the flow of the meetings varies a great deal. So I am still in the what features are important phase of things.?
You can see the fill list of tools here:
I have a big desire to support "The law of two feet", which is that people can mingle at will.?
I am told that zoom now supports this, but I can't seem to get it to work.?
Airmeet and remo are the only two that support this well enough.?
The first question is: "What kind meeting are you trying to hold?"
1) How big? 2) Will you have a specific flow? 3) Do you need mingling? 4) Do you need small group meetings? 5) Do you need voting, discussion notes, whiteboards, chat backchannels? 6) Do you need facilitators with powers? 7) Do you need many events at once? 8) Do you need the ability to randomize small groups? 9) Do you need the ability to mix two different classes of attendees? 10) Do you need to force everyone back into the main meeting? 11) ....
What are the features that make it possible for you to do what you need? Then given these features, which is best then becomes possible to answer.
Can you please outline the key features of your meeting?
Hello everyone! I was sure that someone had started or shared a table analyzing the features of different online platform alternatives to Zoom. I can¡¯t seem to find it now after doing a search. Does such a magical thing exist or am I just dreaming?? Thank you!! Catherine
Learning & Evaluation Specialist
BLOG:
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JOHN SECHREST
Founder,?Seattle Angel Conference
? @sechrest
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Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
Yes for me (re: the comparison)! Cheers,
David Gouthro
Phone: (604) 926-6858 Cell: (604) 218-2877 URL: http://www.davidgouthro.com
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On Oct 27, 2020, at 6:16 AM, bev.matthews via groups.io <bev.matthews@...> wrote:
?Hello Catherine, in Horizons we have done a comparison of Zoom, Webex and Teams - might that be helpful?
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Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
Hello Catherine, in Horizons we have done a comparison of Zoom, Webex and Teams - might that be helpful?
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Re: Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
Hello.
I do not have what you ask for but I tired 4 diferetn platform and I so far I always go back to Zoom for?
easy of set up?
ease of use
flexibility
variety of tools ( poll, breakout room, whiteboard etc)
participants experience
and fast learning curve.
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Assessment of online collaborative platform alternatives?
Hello everyone! I was sure that someone had started or shared a table analyzing the features of different online platform alternatives to Zoom. I can¡¯t seem to find it now after doing a search. Does such a magical thing exist or am I just dreaming?? Thank you!! Catherine
Learning & Evaluation Specialist
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Thank you, Teletha. That sounds great - I will explore this more.
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Thanks, Tom. I think we have decided to go with . We especially like how people can edit text directly and merge their edits into the document. Any changes can be walked back, and you can easily see who made what edits. The fact that people can edit directly and merge their changes means less work for the person who has to finalize the document. The biggest drawback is the fact that you can only export as a pdf (unless I'm missing something), but we can work with that. I also just learned about this one (). It seems really interesting, but doesn't have that direct edit/merge function (as far as I can tell at a cursory glance)?
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 4:48 AM tom.underwood1 via <tom.underwood1= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Teletha,
I've not found anything personally, but I'd be very keen to hear more if you come across anything. I have just seen almanac too and up front it looks promising. I believe there is a lot of potential for improved learning systems, asynchronous working and information flows across teams using live documents. My biggest question for implementing their use is how to control them and keep them organised - I've experienced that the potential fall out from poorly managed live documents can be greater than the reward.
Aside from new tools, it would be great to hear if anyone has any tips for how they manage this currently. At the moment I'm leaning towards assigning document 'managers' who keep an overview of changes, but this doesn't seem like the ideal solution.
Tom
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Hi Teletha,
I've not found anything personally, but I'd be very keen to hear more if you come across anything. I have just seen almanac too and up front it looks promising. I believe there is a lot of potential for improved learning systems, asynchronous working and information flows across teams using live documents. My biggest question for implementing their use is how to control them and keep them organised - I've experienced that the potential fall out from poorly managed live documents can be greater than the reward.
Aside from new tools, it would be great to hear if anyone has any tips for how they manage this currently. At the moment I'm leaning towards assigning document 'managers' who keep an overview of changes, but this doesn't seem like the ideal solution.
Tom
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Hi John,? Yes, it needs to support revision control, easily show who made the edits (and ideally interact with them about it), and group consensus on changes would be a sweet cherry on top!
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:35 PM John Sechrest < sechrest@...> wrote: Can you please define what you mean by "Robust Collaborative Editing"?
What about it would make it robust?
For example, does it have to support revision control and group consensus on changes?
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 9:11 AM Teletha McJunkin | Resolutionist < teletha@...> wrote: Hi there! Does anyone know of a platform like this - Almanac? It allows for more robust collaborative editing than you find in GDocs or Word. I am working with an INGO network with 250 members, mostly in the EU and SE Asia. They need to collaboratively comment on and edit their strategic framework, and have a fast turnaround time for the final version. Almanac looks like it will be the perfect solution, but it is not accessible yet.?
Anything else out there??
Thanks!
President
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JOHN SECHREST
Founder,?Seattle Angel Conference
? @sechrest
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Can you please define what you mean by "Robust Collaborative Editing"?
What about it would make it robust?
For example, does it have to support revision control and group consensus on changes?
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 9:11 AM Teletha McJunkin | Resolutionist < teletha@...> wrote: Hi there! Does anyone know of a platform like this - Almanac? It allows for more robust collaborative editing than you find in GDocs or Word. I am working with an INGO network with 250 members, mostly in the EU and SE Asia. They need to collaboratively comment on and edit their strategic framework, and have a fast turnaround time for the final version. Almanac looks like it will be the perfect solution, but it is not accessible yet.?
Anything else out there??
Thanks!
President
Rule 31 Mediation | Group Facilitation | Virtual Meeting Producer Phone/WhatsApp: +1 (423) 635.5939?
UTC -04:00
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JOHN SECHREST
Founder,?Seattle Angel Conference
? @sechrest
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:11 PM Teletha McJunkin | Resolutionist via <teletha= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi there! Does anyone know of a platform like this - Almanac? It allows for more robust collaborative editing than you find in GDocs or Word. I am working with an INGO network with 250 members, mostly in the EU and SE Asia. They need to collaboratively comment on and edit their strategic framework, and have a fast turnaround time for the final version. Almanac looks like it will be the perfect solution, but it is not accessible yet.?
Anything else out there??
Thanks!
President
Rule 31 Mediation | Group Facilitation | Virtual Meeting Producer Phone/WhatsApp: +1 (423) 635.5939?
UTC -04:00
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Hi there! Does anyone know of a platform like this - Almanac? It allows for more robust collaborative editing than you find in GDocs or Word. I am working with an INGO network with 250 members, mostly in the EU and SE Asia. They need to collaboratively comment on and edit their strategic framework, and have a fast turnaround time for the final version. Almanac looks like it will be the perfect solution, but it is not accessible yet.?
Anything else out there??
Thanks!
President
Rule 31 Mediation | Group Facilitation | Virtual Meeting Producer Phone/WhatsApp: +1 (423) 635.5939?
UTC -04:00
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Re: Join the Online Facilitation Unconference (OFU), October 19¨C25
Seconding Tim's comment- this OFU is definitely in full swing! Not only are the sessions plentiful, but the chat board alone is worth the (very low) cost of admission with unique insights and perspectives, interesting questions from a global community. (I just spent the last 2 hours going down the rabbit hole of community introductions and discussion topics, and LOVED it! =) )
As part of OFU and IAF's #FacWeek, my team has?partnered with X360 for a series of self-guided, small group conversations hosted on our new ?video platform . We're also offering guided (and unguided) tours of our two platforms (?&?) built specifically with facilitators in mind?and sharing our insights into creating meaningful group processes and conversations online.
Really looking forward to hearing about new tools and strategies, learn what are some of the positives that we've taken away from this unique moment in our lives, and brainstorm on what the new, new normal will look like once we come out of the pandemic. Hope to "run into" other f4c folks during OFU!
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I first heard about from Lucas in the demo of Qiqochat during OFU, and I tried it out with a couple of colleagues (you can have up to 4 people in a session for free).
We liked the interface and the ease of participating and having different conversations.
A couple of questions for this community:
- If you have a basic subscription, can you create multiple rooms to allow people to move in and out of different spaces?
- How easy is it to upgrade capacity if you need to accommodate more than 50 people (I'm thinking up to 150 people, so not massive gatherings).
- If not, what creative workarounds might you use?
- Is there a way to "summon" everyone to the host if you wanted to make announcements, or to send broadcast messages?
- Are there alternative platforms that provide similar functionality of participants moving in and out of conversations? and that are reasonably affordable?(up to a few hundred dollars)?
I look forward to the thoughtful and practical responses from this community!
Michael
Michael Randel
** Based in Washington D.C, supporting organizations globally! **
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 10:42 AM Lucas Cioffi < lucas@...> wrote: Hello Sara,
You can test out Wonder (formerly Yotribe), SpatialChat, and WorkAdventure embedded into this .? Please feel free to test it out.
Each of these three tools has a fun way to move around the screen.? Some people may not know that the value of these tools is that when you are near someone you both pop up in the same video chat on?the screen.
We have seen facilitators embed SpatialChat into 1-3 of their breakout rooms on Qiqo to provide space for their participants to network between sessions.? Each SpatialChat room can hold 50 people meeting in many small groups.? SpatialChat costs $50/month.? We let facilitators use our SpatialChat rooms for $25 for any of their events.
Lucas Cioffi Lead Software Engineer,? Scarsdale, NY 917-528-1831
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 10:11 AM Sara Huang < sara@...> wrote: Wondering if anyone has any experience with Spatial.chat as a tool for virtual happy hours?
I like the look and feel of it better than Gather, but have not tried neither yet.
What are your experience with the tool?
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Re: Join the Online Facilitation Unconference (OFU), October 19¨C25
Nice to meet you, Dawn!
OFU20 is in full swing. Our warm-up program started Monday. The unconference sessions will kick off Thursday afternoon Pacific Time. Four sessions have already been added to the schedule.
Our $39 early bird rate ends tonight at midnight (10/22 at 12am Pacific). Use discount code?OFU20_FOAF for 50% off all tickets:
Thanks again for generously sharing your insights here. Much appreciated!
Tim
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John Sechrest
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Julian Martinez
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