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Re: Partnership for mutual aid groups

 

Hi resourcelibrarian! I'd love to learn more about what you are doing. I'm working on ways to support a group of nonprofit organizations (in the US and elsewhere) in finding useful resources to navigate through the COVID crisis. Let me know if you'd like to talk!?


Re: Designing virtual convenings

 

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Arwen, I’m curious too about what you mean by “Zoom rooms” - are you saying you know how to get a url for specific breakout rooms, or are you referring to rooms set up in different Zoom accounts?

On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Rowan Francis Simonsen <rowan.simonsen@...> wrote:

Thank Arwen for your ideas.
Could you share more about how the Zoom room work around worked in Miro? Sounds very interesting and useful.

R

On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 at 11:43, Arwen Bailey (Alliance of Bioversity and CIAT) <a.bailey@...> wrote:

Hello

?

I’ve done quite a few large online conferences too and totally agree with John about thinking through sequencing and what can be done asynchronously before and after the event, so that the time together is really for conversations.

?

One solution to allow people to go to the Zoom room that they want (apart from using Qiqo) is to put Zoom rooms on a document and people just click on the link of the session they like. I have done this with Word, which was a quick and dirty workaround. However, in a session I attended the other day, someone showed me her way of doing it with Miro, and it was vastly more attractive and engaging!

?

Good luck!

?

Arwen

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Sechrest
Sent: 24 April 2020 04:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Designing virtual convenings

?

I also I working on a large conference planning.?

?

I am asking the question of "What part of this conference needs to be synchronous?" So some parts of the conference I am pre-recording as interviews and I will start dropping them out on the website. But the part that needs to be synchronous is the interpersonal?connections. So zoom breakout rooms can be used to do that. So can many multiple zoom rooms.?

?

So that impacts your tech support needs.

?

You probably need a bunch of co-hosts who can help manage each of the breakout sessions.?

?

People can not move between breakout rooms on their own. Our solution is to have many zoom meetings with facilitators and a backchannel slack conversation for coordination.?

?

What are the things you can do that will pre-heat the conversations? Pre-event introductions? Tools like Brella to facilitate match making??

?

Curated?groups of intentionally mixing and matching specific people.

?

Connecting everyone on Linkedin with a big linkedin list to all participants ahead of time?

?

What pre-heats?conversations?

?

A small white paper to submit as a part of the application to attend the conference?

?

?

?

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:51 PM <Sarahclarkdixon@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working with a team to design a virtual convening of a network to take place over 3 days. It was originally an (annual) multi-day in-person convening of US participants.? We are conceptualizing the online event to also be spread out over 3 days, with several sessions/day, and conducting all session within "work day" hours (between 10 or 11 AM - 5 PM ET). Will have ample breaks within those hours - want to have a dynamic yet humane/reasonable program. Will include a mix of session types, including some social/fun activities, interactive whole group sessions and opt-in breakout sessions/meetings.? Couple of questions:

1. Thinking about session attendance across 3 days: When in-person the number of participants was determined by funding. Participants only paid travel costs.? Now that its virtual, invites will be expanded a bit - potentially to double the size to 120. Working on designing a compelling program of course - wondering what additional ways to incentivize participation across the three days. To help people build the network through people getting to know each other and engaging people in some main topics, we want to have a solid core (majority?) of participation across main sessions. This network does some strategizing/action planning for aligned work and some information sharing/learning - not yet doing team work that requires collaboration/higher level partnership per se.? Usually there is attrition for online events so I'm also wondering what to expect.? Welcome ideas on encouraging participation and your experience with this/reality check to anticipate what the actual participation might be like.? We might charge a small registration fee to get a certain level of commitment and then use that towards event expenses or as a donation to support a common cause related to the network's purpose.?

2. Tech Steward Role: For 60-90 minute public, online (interactive) sessions, my organization has been using one tech steward and one facilitator.? We will do this for this convening too. Any insights on what sort of additional tech support is needed for a multi-day, multi-session event with a core group of participants?? Other tech support suggestions/considerations???

The event will mainly be conducted on zoom and we will use some additional tools in different sessions like Poll Everywhere and Mural or Stormboard to support collaboration.? Will also set up a chat function (probably using slack) leading up to the event/during the event (and then after).

We're having fun thinking about and designing it. I welcome other ideas/resources you've used for these types of multi day events.??

Thanks! I've been enjoying listening in on the f4c threads/appreciated the resources that have been shared.

Sarah Clark
Institute for Conservation Leadership
Bowie, MD
240-472-1772


?

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Rowan Francis Simonsen

Tel. +57 311 4790 656
E-mail:?rowan@...
Web:?


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Amy Lenzo |?weDialogue
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amy@...?| www.wedialogue.com


Re: Designing virtual convenings

 

Thank Arwen for your ideas.
Could you share more about how the Zoom room work around worked in Miro? Sounds very interesting and useful.

R

On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 at 11:43, Arwen Bailey (Alliance of Bioversity and CIAT) <a.bailey@...> wrote:

Hello

?

I’ve done quite a few large online conferences too and totally agree with John about thinking through sequencing and what can be done asynchronously before and after the event, so that the time together is really for conversations.

?

One solution to allow people to go to the Zoom room that they want (apart from using Qiqo) is to put Zoom rooms on a document and people just click on the link of the session they like. I have done this with Word, which was a quick and dirty workaround. However, in a session I attended the other day, someone showed me her way of doing it with Miro, and it was vastly more attractive and engaging!

?

Good luck!

?

Arwen

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Sechrest
Sent: 24 April 2020 04:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Designing virtual convenings

?

I also I working on a large conference planning.?

?

I am asking the question of "What part of this conference needs to be synchronous?" So some parts of the conference I am pre-recording as interviews and I will start dropping them out on the website. But the part that needs to be synchronous is the interpersonal?connections. So zoom breakout rooms can be used to do that. So can many multiple zoom rooms.?

?

So that impacts your tech support needs.

?

You probably need a bunch of co-hosts who can help manage each of the breakout sessions.?

?

People can not move between breakout rooms on their own. Our solution is to have many zoom meetings with facilitators and a backchannel slack conversation for coordination.?

?

What are the things you can do that will pre-heat the conversations? Pre-event introductions? Tools like Brella to facilitate match making??

?

Curated?groups of intentionally mixing and matching specific people.

?

Connecting everyone on Linkedin with a big linkedin list to all participants ahead of time?

?

What pre-heats?conversations?

?

A small white paper to submit as a part of the application to attend the conference?

?

?

?

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:51 PM <Sarahclarkdixon@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working with a team to design a virtual convening of a network to take place over 3 days. It was originally an (annual) multi-day in-person convening of US participants.? We are conceptualizing the online event to also be spread out over 3 days, with several sessions/day, and conducting all session within "work day" hours (between 10 or 11 AM - 5 PM ET). Will have ample breaks within those hours - want to have a dynamic yet humane/reasonable program. Will include a mix of session types, including some social/fun activities, interactive whole group sessions and opt-in breakout sessions/meetings.? Couple of questions:

1. Thinking about session attendance across 3 days: When in-person the number of participants was determined by funding. Participants only paid travel costs.? Now that its virtual, invites will be expanded a bit - potentially to double the size to 120. Working on designing a compelling program of course - wondering what additional ways to incentivize participation across the three days. To help people build the network through people getting to know each other and engaging people in some main topics, we want to have a solid core (majority?) of participation across main sessions. This network does some strategizing/action planning for aligned work and some information sharing/learning - not yet doing team work that requires collaboration/higher level partnership per se.? Usually there is attrition for online events so I'm also wondering what to expect.? Welcome ideas on encouraging participation and your experience with this/reality check to anticipate what the actual participation might be like.? We might charge a small registration fee to get a certain level of commitment and then use that towards event expenses or as a donation to support a common cause related to the network's purpose.?

2. Tech Steward Role: For 60-90 minute public, online (interactive) sessions, my organization has been using one tech steward and one facilitator.? We will do this for this convening too. Any insights on what sort of additional tech support is needed for a multi-day, multi-session event with a core group of participants?? Other tech support suggestions/considerations???

The event will mainly be conducted on zoom and we will use some additional tools in different sessions like Poll Everywhere and Mural or Stormboard to support collaboration.? Will also set up a chat function (probably using slack) leading up to the event/during the event (and then after).

We're having fun thinking about and designing it. I welcome other ideas/resources you've used for these types of multi day events.??

Thanks! I've been enjoying listening in on the f4c threads/appreciated the resources that have been shared.

Sarah Clark
Institute for Conservation Leadership
Bowie, MD
240-472-1772


?

--

John Sechrest ? ? ?.? Need to schedule a meeting :
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?sechrest@...
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?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?.



--
=================
Rowan Francis Simonsen

Tel. +57 311 4790 656
E-mail:?rowan@...
Web:?


Re: Designing virtual convenings

 

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Hello

?

I’ve done quite a few large online conferences too and totally agree with John about thinking through sequencing and what can be done asynchronously before and after the event, so that the time together is really for conversations.

?

One solution to allow people to go to the Zoom room that they want (apart from using Qiqo) is to put Zoom rooms on a document and people just click on the link of the session they like. I have done this with Word, which was a quick and dirty workaround. However, in a session I attended the other day, someone showed me her way of doing it with Miro, and it was vastly more attractive and engaging!

?

Good luck!

?

Arwen

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Sechrest
Sent: 24 April 2020 04:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Designing virtual convenings

?

I also I working on a large conference planning.?

?

I am asking the question of "What part of this conference needs to be synchronous?" So some parts of the conference I am pre-recording as interviews and I will start dropping them out on the website. But the part that needs to be synchronous is the interpersonal?connections. So zoom breakout rooms can be used to do that. So can many multiple zoom rooms.?

?

So that impacts your tech support needs.

?

You probably need a bunch of co-hosts who can help manage each of the breakout sessions.?

?

People can not move between breakout rooms on their own. Our solution is to have many zoom meetings with facilitators and a backchannel slack conversation for coordination.?

?

What are the things you can do that will pre-heat the conversations? Pre-event introductions? Tools like Brella to facilitate match making??

?

Curated?groups of intentionally mixing and matching specific people.

?

Connecting everyone on Linkedin with a big linkedin list to all participants ahead of time?

?

What pre-heats?conversations?

?

A small white paper to submit as a part of the application to attend the conference?

?

?

?

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:51 PM <Sarahclarkdixon@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working with a team to design a virtual convening of a network to take place over 3 days. It was originally an (annual) multi-day in-person convening of US participants.? We are conceptualizing the online event to also be spread out over 3 days, with several sessions/day, and conducting all session within "work day" hours (between 10 or 11 AM - 5 PM ET). Will have ample breaks within those hours - want to have a dynamic yet humane/reasonable program. Will include a mix of session types, including some social/fun activities, interactive whole group sessions and opt-in breakout sessions/meetings.? Couple of questions:

1. Thinking about session attendance across 3 days: When in-person the number of participants was determined by funding. Participants only paid travel costs.? Now that its virtual, invites will be expanded a bit - potentially to double the size to 120. Working on designing a compelling program of course - wondering what additional ways to incentivize participation across the three days. To help people build the network through people getting to know each other and engaging people in some main topics, we want to have a solid core (majority?) of participation across main sessions. This network does some strategizing/action planning for aligned work and some information sharing/learning - not yet doing team work that requires collaboration/higher level partnership per se.? Usually there is attrition for online events so I'm also wondering what to expect.? Welcome ideas on encouraging participation and your experience with this/reality check to anticipate what the actual participation might be like.? We might charge a small registration fee to get a certain level of commitment and then use that towards event expenses or as a donation to support a common cause related to the network's purpose.?

2. Tech Steward Role: For 60-90 minute public, online (interactive) sessions, my organization has been using one tech steward and one facilitator.? We will do this for this convening too. Any insights on what sort of additional tech support is needed for a multi-day, multi-session event with a core group of participants?? Other tech support suggestions/considerations???

The event will mainly be conducted on zoom and we will use some additional tools in different sessions like Poll Everywhere and Mural or Stormboard to support collaboration.? Will also set up a chat function (probably using slack) leading up to the event/during the event (and then after).

We're having fun thinking about and designing it. I welcome other ideas/resources you've used for these types of multi day events.??

Thanks! I've been enjoying listening in on the f4c threads/appreciated the resources that have been shared.

Sarah Clark
Institute for Conservation Leadership
Bowie, MD
240-472-1772


?

--

John Sechrest ? ? ?.? Need to schedule a meeting :
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?sechrest@...
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Re: Zoom breakouts, co-hosts, and tablets/phones

 

Good question . I will try next week and let you know

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Francois Lavallee , M.Sc.
Organizational biologist


Re: Zoom breakouts, co-hosts, and tablets/phones

 

It now works with the recent update.
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Francois Lavallee , M.Sc.
Organizational biologist


Re: Zoom breakouts, co-hosts, and tablets/phones

Garth Nowland-Foreman
 

We tried that for the?first time with a group this evening?and the one person who was joining us on a phone could not find the Breakout Room icon anywhere on her screen (She came?back to main room and told me the room she wanted to go to, and I did it manually). So answer may be no. (PS: Everything?else worked fabulously!)

Ngā mihi
Garth

Garth Nowland-Foreman
Director ?| ?Christchurch ?| ?+64 21 395532 ?| garth@...



On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:08 AM Karen Rayne <karen@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Is it possible for co-hosts to have control over their own breakout rooms when on a table or a phone? It's easy on a computer, but I can't figure out how to do it on the other?devices!

Thanks,
Karen

--
Karen Rayne, PhD, CSE
Executive Director


Re: Designing virtual convenings

 

I also I working on a large conference planning.?

I am asking the question of "What part of this conference needs to be synchronous?" So some parts of the conference I am pre-recording as interviews and I will start dropping them out on the website. But the part that needs to be synchronous is the interpersonal?connections. So zoom breakout rooms can be used to do that. So can many multiple zoom rooms.?

So that impacts your tech support needs.

You probably need a bunch of co-hosts who can help manage each of the breakout sessions.?

People can not move between breakout rooms on their own. Our solution is to have many zoom meetings with facilitators and a backchannel slack conversation for coordination.?

What are the things you can do that will pre-heat the conversations? Pre-event introductions? Tools like Brella to facilitate match making??

Curated?groups of intentionally mixing and matching specific people.

Connecting everyone on Linkedin with a big linkedin list to all participants ahead of time?

What pre-heats?conversations?

A small white paper to submit as a part of the application to attend the conference?



On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:51 PM <Sarahclarkdixon@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm working with a team to design a virtual convening of a network to take place over 3 days. It was originally an (annual) multi-day in-person convening of US participants.? We are conceptualizing the online event to also be spread out over 3 days, with several sessions/day, and conducting all session within "work day" hours (between 10 or 11 AM - 5 PM ET). Will have ample breaks within those hours - want to have a dynamic yet humane/reasonable program. Will include a mix of session types, including some social/fun activities, interactive whole group sessions and opt-in breakout sessions/meetings.? Couple of questions:

1. Thinking about session attendance across 3 days: When in-person the number of participants was determined by funding. Participants only paid travel costs.? Now that its virtual, invites will be expanded a bit - potentially to double the size to 120. Working on designing a compelling program of course - wondering what additional ways to incentivize participation across the three days. To help people build the network through people getting to know each other and engaging people in some main topics, we want to have a solid core (majority?) of participation across main sessions. This network does some strategizing/action planning for aligned work and some information sharing/learning - not yet doing team work that requires collaboration/higher level partnership per se.? Usually there is attrition for online events so I'm also wondering what to expect.? Welcome ideas on encouraging participation and your experience with this/reality check to anticipate what the actual participation might be like.? We might charge a small registration fee to get a certain level of commitment and then use that towards event expenses or as a donation to support a common cause related to the network's purpose.?

2. Tech Steward Role: For 60-90 minute public, online (interactive) sessions, my organization has been using one tech steward and one facilitator.? We will do this for this convening too. Any insights on what sort of additional tech support is needed for a multi-day, multi-session event with a core group of participants?? Other tech support suggestions/considerations???

The event will mainly be conducted on zoom and we will use some additional tools in different sessions like Poll Everywhere and Mural or Stormboard to support collaboration.? Will also set up a chat function (probably using slack) leading up to the event/during the event (and then after).

We're having fun thinking about and designing it. I welcome other ideas/resources you've used for these types of multi day events.??

Thanks! I've been enjoying listening in on the f4c threads/appreciated the resources that have been shared.

Sarah Clark
Institute for Conservation Leadership
Bowie, MD
240-472-1772



--
John Sechrest ? ? ?.? Need to schedule a meeting :
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?sechrest@...
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Designing virtual convenings

 

Hi everyone,

I'm working with a team to design a virtual convening of a network to take place over 3 days. It was originally an (annual) multi-day in-person convening of US participants.? We are conceptualizing the online event to also be spread out over 3 days, with several sessions/day, and conducting all session within "work day" hours (between 10 or 11 AM - 5 PM ET). Will have ample breaks within those hours - want to have a dynamic yet humane/reasonable program. Will include a mix of session types, including some social/fun activities, interactive whole group sessions and opt-in breakout sessions/meetings.? Couple of questions:

1. Thinking about session attendance across 3 days: When in-person the number of participants was determined by funding. Participants only paid travel costs.? Now that its virtual, invites will be expanded a bit - potentially to double the size to 120. Working on designing a compelling program of course - wondering what additional ways to incentivize participation across the three days. To help people build the network through people getting to know each other and engaging people in some main topics, we want to have a solid core (majority?) of participation across main sessions. This network does some strategizing/action planning for aligned work and some information sharing/learning - not yet doing team work that requires collaboration/higher level partnership per se.? Usually there is attrition for online events so I'm also wondering what to expect.? Welcome ideas on encouraging participation and your experience with this/reality check to anticipate what the actual participation might be like.? We might charge a small registration fee to get a certain level of commitment and then use that towards event expenses or as a donation to support a common cause related to the network's purpose.?

2. Tech Steward Role: For 60-90 minute public, online (interactive) sessions, my organization has been using one tech steward and one facilitator.? We will do this for this convening too. Any insights on what sort of additional tech support is needed for a multi-day, multi-session event with a core group of participants?? Other tech support suggestions/considerations???

The event will mainly be conducted on zoom and we will use some additional tools in different sessions like Poll Everywhere and Mural or Stormboard to support collaboration.? Will also set up a chat function (probably using slack) leading up to the event/during the event (and then after).

We're having fun thinking about and designing it. I welcome other ideas/resources you've used for these types of multi day events.??

Thanks! I've been enjoying listening in on the f4c threads/appreciated the resources that have been shared.

Sarah Clark
Institute for Conservation Leadership
Bowie, MD
240-472-1772


Zoom breakouts, co-hosts, and tablets/phones

 

Hi all,

Is it possible for co-hosts to have control over their own breakout rooms when on a table or a phone? It's easy on a computer, but I can't figure out how to do it on the other?devices!

Thanks,
Karen

--
Karen Rayne, PhD, CSE
Executive Director


Designing month-long intensive learning program. Examples?

 

I am in the process of designing a month long summer school program to be online with some local action included in different contexts around Europe and the world.
The Experience has 4 levels of engagement:
  • BIG GROUP - 400 participants
  • Smaller co-horts?of 40 participants
  • Project groups of 5 participants
  • Individual?learning
Duration: 4-6 weeks
Intensity: 4-5 hours/day
Supported by hosts and content providers at the 400 and 40 pax levels.

Technology: Bright space and possibly zoom.

Do any of you have?examples of longer intensive learning programs or gatherings moving online?

Thank you very much.

R
--
=================
Rowan Francis Simonsen



Re: Zoom and security

 

Hi Chris.?
Thanks for sharing this tip I haven't done breakouts for the moment but I do have a big event coming up and it's important to warn participants about this limitation of web access on top of Hector's very useful information on security?levels.?

Thank you both!

Paul Nunesdea | Paulo Nunes de Abreu?
+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea



On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 13:32, Chris Collison <chris.collison@...> wrote:

Just bear in mind that if you’re using Zoom break-out groups, anyone accessing via the browser will be left in a ‘remnant group’ in the main room when the app user go to theirs.? It’s perfectly manageable if the numbers are right, but you won’t have the same freedom to socially engineer your breakouts….

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Christina Merl <christina.merl@...>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 23 April 2020 at 12:28
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Zoom and security

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Thanks, Paul, for sharing. In my case, I think it's the IT people who block the process. Management cannot (or does not) overrule IT ... it's tricky.

But it's great to know that you manage through web browser,

Christina

Am 23.04.2020 um 13:23 schrieb Paul Nunesdea:

Greetings everyone,?

?

I have a customer that cannot use ZOOM as an installed app for security issues but their?teams are able to join my sessions via web browser. So as an independent consultant I can host meetings with my ZOOM license which they attend from their browsers. Would this be solving the problem?

?

On the other hand, if the European Commissions adopts ZOOM, and the ones who have sold any type of software licence to the EC know the crux of such a process in terms of levels of security?compliance required, servers based in the EU zone, etc. etc. and ZOOM was approved I am wondering who could be these human rights groups that have an even more stringent criteria on security matters than the EU governing body??

?

Best wishes and stay safe!

? ?

Paul Nunesdea | Paulo Nunes de Abreu?

+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 08:26, Christina Merl <christina.merl@...> wrote:

Dear Beverly,?

Dear all,

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I have a similar experience I'd like to share here. A public sector organisation I work with, dealing with all kinds of public issues, denied us to continue our learning journey for the same reason. This is very frustrating for everyone involved, we have had a standstill in learning and in exploring topics, since mid March. All workshops have been canceled until end June, then there's the summer break and we can start again in October. Meaning, we lose more than half a year of learning. I am using zoom with my other groups as it simply works best for our purpose. We have tried Microsoft Teams but it's not ideal for group facilitation for various reasons. Microsoft has announced that they'd add a new, breakout-group like functionality in April but again, it won't cover all the advantages. (Plus, it's a power struggle between tech providers, it seems.)

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Christina

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I’ve been reading about the Zoom security issues but just want to raise this again. I work with human rights groups and so security is a huge issue. Today I was talking to a women’s fund in Poland and they were expressing that their digital security folks were saying absolutely under no terms should they be using zoom and so they’ve been experimenting, with a great deal of frustration, with other platforms, mostly Jitsi I believe. It is already so challenging for them to move some of their conversations/workshops online with accessible technology, and now without access to Zoom I fear they are going stop their exploration of new ways of engaging voices online which could be really exciting for them, as they work to support the feminist movement in a country where things are very challenging right now… ?(Also, most of these smaller groups have their capacity stretched to the breaking point, and so don’t have a lot of time to spend experimenting, learning new technologies ?- it’s just a reality.)

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?I am wondering if anyone has more insights into making Zoom more secure? They seem particularly worried about having now to download zoom on their computers, and the access this then gives Zoom to their other data.? Do we think Zoom has planned another tier of “more secure” accounts? Does anyone have any insights??

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Thanks Chris - This is an important distinction. ?It is curious that an EU governing body permits Zoom (which certainly should help our case), but yet there are clearly a significant number of groups focused on digital security that don’t. I’m working with a foundation too that is highly concerned about security (in fact we could not use WhatsApp to share photos etc.) but they are ok with Zoom as well.
Christina, I feel your pain and have a feeling that others may take this route as well.

On Apr 23, 2020, at 6:32 AM, Chris Collison <chris.collison@...> wrote:

Just bear in mind that if you’re using Zoom break-out groups, anyone accessing via the browser will be left in a ‘remnant group’ in the main room when the app user go to theirs.? It’s perfectly manageable if the numbers are right, but you won’t have the same freedom to socially engineer your breakouts….
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Reply-To:?"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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To:?"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [f4c-response] Zoom and security
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Thanks, Paul, for sharing. In my case, I think it's the IT people who block the process. Management cannot (or does not) overrule IT ... it's tricky.
But it's great to know that you manage through web browser,
Christina
Am 23.04.2020 um 13:23 schrieb Paul Nunesdea:
Greetings everyone,??
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I have a customer that cannot use ZOOM as an installed app for security issues but their?teams are able to join my sessions via web browser. So as an independent consultant I can host meetings with my ZOOM license which they attend from their browsers. Would this be solving the problem?
?
On the other hand, if the European Commissions adopts ZOOM, and the ones who have sold any type of software licence to the EC know the crux of such a process in terms of levels of security?compliance required, servers based in the EU zone, etc. etc. and ZOOM was approved I am wondering who could be these human rights groups that have an even more stringent criteria on security matters than the EU governing body??
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Best wishes and stay safe!
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Dear all,
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I have a similar experience I'd like to share here. A public sector organisation I work with, dealing with all kinds of public issues, denied us to continue our learning journey for the same reason. This is very frustrating for everyone involved, we have had a standstill in learning and in exploring topics, since mid March. All workshops have been canceled until end June, then there's the summer break and we can start again in October. Meaning, we lose more than half a year of learning. I am using zoom with my other groups as it simply works best for our purpose. We have tried Microsoft Teams but it's not ideal for group facilitation for various reasons. Microsoft has announced that they'd add a new, breakout-group like functionality in April but again, it won't cover all the advantages. (Plus, it's a power struggle between tech providers, it seems.)
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I’ve been reading about the Zoom security issues but just want to raise this again. I work with human rights groups and so security is a huge issue. Today I was talking to a women’s fund in Poland and they were expressing that their digital security folks were saying absolutely under no terms should they be using zoom and so they’ve been experimenting, with a great deal of frustration, with other platforms, mostly Jitsi I believe. It is already so challenging for them to move some of their conversations/workshops online with accessible technology, and now without access to Zoom I fear they are going stop their exploration of new ways of engaging voices online which could be really exciting for them, as they work to support the feminist movement in a country where things are very challenging right now… ?(Also, most of these smaller groups have their capacity stretched to the breaking point, and so don’t have a lot of time to spend experimenting, learning new technologies ?- it’s just a reality.)
?
?I am wondering if anyone has more insights into making Zoom more secure? They seem particularly worried about having now to download zoom on their computers, and the access this then gives Zoom to their other data.? Do we think Zoom has planned another tier of “more secure” accounts? Does anyone have any insights??
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Just bear in mind that if you’re using Zoom break-out groups, anyone accessing via the browser will be left in a ‘remnant group’ in the main room when the app user go to theirs.? It’s perfectly manageable if the numbers are right, but you won’t have the same freedom to socially engineer your breakouts….

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Christina Merl <christina.merl@...>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 23 April 2020 at 12:28
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Zoom and security

?

Thanks, Paul, for sharing. In my case, I think it's the IT people who block the process. Management cannot (or does not) overrule IT ... it's tricky.

But it's great to know that you manage through web browser,

Christina

Am 23.04.2020 um 13:23 schrieb Paul Nunesdea:

Greetings everyone,?

?

I have a customer that cannot use ZOOM as an installed app for security issues but their?teams are able to join my sessions via web browser. So as an independent consultant I can host meetings with my ZOOM license which they attend from their browsers. Would this be solving the problem?

?

On the other hand, if the European Commissions adopts ZOOM, and the ones who have sold any type of software licence to the EC know the crux of such a process in terms of levels of security?compliance required, servers based in the EU zone, etc. etc. and ZOOM was approved I am wondering who could be these human rights groups that have an even more stringent criteria on security matters than the EU governing body??

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Best wishes and stay safe!

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 08:26, Christina Merl <christina.merl@...> wrote:

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Dear all,

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I have a similar experience I'd like to share here. A public sector organisation I work with, dealing with all kinds of public issues, denied us to continue our learning journey for the same reason. This is very frustrating for everyone involved, we have had a standstill in learning and in exploring topics, since mid March. All workshops have been canceled until end June, then there's the summer break and we can start again in October. Meaning, we lose more than half a year of learning. I am using zoom with my other groups as it simply works best for our purpose. We have tried Microsoft Teams but it's not ideal for group facilitation for various reasons. Microsoft has announced that they'd add a new, breakout-group like functionality in April but again, it won't cover all the advantages. (Plus, it's a power struggle between tech providers, it seems.)

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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 19:43, Bev Wenger-Trayner <bev@...> wrote:

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Zoom is responding to these security issues. Here is an article that has an updated version of it all -?

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On Apr 22, 2020, at 18:34, Catherine Borgman-Arboleda <cborgman.arboleda@...> wrote:

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Hello!

I’ve been reading about the Zoom security issues but just want to raise this again. I work with human rights groups and so security is a huge issue. Today I was talking to a women’s fund in Poland and they were expressing that their digital security folks were saying absolutely under no terms should they be using zoom and so they’ve been experimenting, with a great deal of frustration, with other platforms, mostly Jitsi I believe. It is already so challenging for them to move some of their conversations/workshops online with accessible technology, and now without access to Zoom I fear they are going stop their exploration of new ways of engaging voices online which could be really exciting for them, as they work to support the feminist movement in a country where things are very challenging right now… ?(Also, most of these smaller groups have their capacity stretched to the breaking point, and so don’t have a lot of time to spend experimenting, learning new technologies ?- it’s just a reality.)

?

?I am wondering if anyone has more insights into making Zoom more secure? They seem particularly worried about having now to download zoom on their computers, and the access this then gives Zoom to their other data.? Do we think Zoom has planned another tier of “more secure” accounts? Does anyone have any insights??

?

Many thanks!

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Hi Paul?
Access to zoom via a browser window is considered the least secure way of participating into a Zoom videoconference.
Although full 256EAS end to end encryption is not yet achieved the most secure way is using the different layers jointly (authenticated users, updated to version 5 of the zoom desktop software, unique password protected per session, waiting room activated, no file share active, etc).

Zoom for business has a different level of security than the consumer version we all use as there are more integration with the organization IT strategy and network.

Hope this helps,

Hector



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Greetings everyone,?

I have a customer that cannot use ZOOM as an installed app for security issues but their?teams are able to join my sessions via web browser. So as an independent consultant I can host meetings with my ZOOM license which they attend from their browsers. Would this be solving the problem?

On the other hand, if the European Commissions adopts ZOOM, and the ones who have sold any type of software licence to the EC know the crux of such a process in terms of levels of security?compliance required, servers based in the EU zone, etc. etc. and ZOOM was approved I am wondering who could be these human rights groups that have an even more stringent criteria on security matters than the EU governing body??

Best wishes and stay safe!
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 08:26, Christina Merl <christina.merl@...> wrote:
Dear Beverly,?
Dear all,

I have a similar experience I'd like to share here. A public sector organisation I work with, dealing with all kinds of public issues, denied us to continue our learning journey for the same reason. This is very frustrating for everyone involved, we have had a standstill in learning and in exploring topics, since mid March. All workshops have been canceled until end June, then there's the summer break and we can start again in October. Meaning, we lose more than half a year of learning. I am using zoom with my other groups as it simply works best for our purpose. We have tried Microsoft Teams but it's not ideal for group facilitation for various reasons. Microsoft has announced that they'd add a new, breakout-group like functionality in April but again, it won't cover all the advantages. (Plus, it's a power struggle between tech providers, it seems.)

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Zoom is responding to these security issues. Here is an article that has an updated version of it all -?

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On Apr 22, 2020, at 18:34, Catherine Borgman-Arboleda <cborgman.arboleda@...> wrote:

Hello!
I’ve been reading about the Zoom security issues but just want to raise this again. I work with human rights groups and so security is a huge issue. Today I was talking to a women’s fund in Poland and they were expressing that their digital security folks were saying absolutely under no terms should they be using zoom and so they’ve been experimenting, with a great deal of frustration, with other platforms, mostly Jitsi I believe. It is already so challenging for them to move some of their conversations/workshops online with accessible technology, and now without access to Zoom I fear they are going stop their exploration of new ways of engaging voices online which could be really exciting for them, as they work to support the feminist movement in a country where things are very challenging right now… ?(Also, most of these smaller groups have their capacity stretched to the breaking point, and so don’t have a lot of time to spend experimenting, learning new technologies ?- it’s just a reality.)

?I am wondering if anyone has more insights into making Zoom more secure? They seem particularly worried about having now to download zoom on their computers, and the access this then gives Zoom to their other data.? Do we think Zoom has planned another tier of “more secure” accounts? Does anyone have any insights??

Many thanks!
Catherine





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Re: Zoom and security

 

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Thanks, Paul, for sharing. In my case, I think it's the IT people who block the process. Management cannot (or does not) overrule IT ... it's tricky.

But it's great to know that you manage through web browser,

Christina

Am 23.04.2020 um 13:23 schrieb Paul Nunesdea:
Greetings everyone,?

I have a customer that cannot use ZOOM as an installed app for security issues but their?teams are able to join my sessions via web browser. So as an independent consultant I can host meetings with my ZOOM license which they attend from their browsers. Would this be solving the problem?

On the other hand, if the European Commissions adopts ZOOM, and the ones who have sold any type of software licence to the EC know the crux of such a process in terms of levels of security?compliance required, servers based in the EU zone, etc. etc. and ZOOM was approved I am wondering who could be these human rights groups that have an even more stringent criteria on security matters than the EU governing body??

Best wishes and stay safe!
? ?
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+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea



On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 08:26, Christina Merl <christina.merl@...> wrote:
Dear Beverly,?
Dear all,

I have a similar experience I'd like to share here. A public sector organisation I work with, dealing with all kinds of public issues, denied us to continue our learning journey for the same reason. This is very frustrating for everyone involved, we have had a standstill in learning and in exploring topics, since mid March. All workshops have been canceled until end June, then there's the summer break and we can start again in October. Meaning, we lose more than half a year of learning. I am using zoom with my other groups as it simply works best for our purpose. We have tried Microsoft Teams but it's not ideal for group facilitation for various reasons. Microsoft has announced that they'd add a new, breakout-group like functionality in April but again, it won't cover all the advantages. (Plus, it's a power struggle between tech providers, it seems.)

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Zoom is responding to these security issues. Here is an article that has an updated version of it all -?

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On Apr 22, 2020, at 18:34, Catherine Borgman-Arboleda <cborgman.arboleda@...> wrote:

Hello!
I’ve been reading about the Zoom security issues but just want to raise this again. I work with human rights groups and so security is a huge issue. Today I was talking to a women’s fund in Poland and they were expressing that their digital security folks were saying absolutely under no terms should they be using zoom and so they’ve been experimenting, with a great deal of frustration, with other platforms, mostly Jitsi I believe. It is already so challenging for them to move some of their conversations/workshops online with accessible technology, and now without access to Zoom I fear they are going stop their exploration of new ways of engaging voices online which could be really exciting for them, as they work to support the feminist movement in a country where things are very challenging right now… ?(Also, most of these smaller groups have their capacity stretched to the breaking point, and so don’t have a lot of time to spend experimenting, learning new technologies ?- it’s just a reality.)

?I am wondering if anyone has more insights into making Zoom more secure? They seem particularly worried about having now to download zoom on their computers, and the access this then gives Zoom to their other data.? Do we think Zoom has planned another tier of “more secure” accounts? Does anyone have any insights??

Many thanks!
Catherine





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Greetings everyone,?

I have a customer that cannot use ZOOM as an installed app for security issues but their?teams are able to join my sessions via web browser. So as an independent consultant I can host meetings with my ZOOM license which they attend from their browsers. Would this be solving the problem?

On the other hand, if the European Commissions adopts ZOOM, and the ones who have sold any type of software licence to the EC know the crux of such a process in terms of levels of security?compliance required, servers based in the EU zone, etc. etc. and ZOOM was approved I am wondering who could be these human rights groups that have an even more stringent criteria on security matters than the EU governing body??

Best wishes and stay safe!
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+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea



On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 08:26, Christina Merl <christina.merl@...> wrote:
Dear Beverly,?
Dear all,

I have a similar experience I'd like to share here. A public sector organisation I work with, dealing with all kinds of public issues, denied us to continue our learning journey for the same reason. This is very frustrating for everyone involved, we have had a standstill in learning and in exploring topics, since mid March. All workshops have been canceled until end June, then there's the summer break and we can start again in October. Meaning, we lose more than half a year of learning. I am using zoom with my other groups as it simply works best for our purpose. We have tried Microsoft Teams but it's not ideal for group facilitation for various reasons. Microsoft has announced that they'd add a new, breakout-group like functionality in April but again, it won't cover all the advantages. (Plus, it's a power struggle between tech providers, it seems.)

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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 19:43, Bev Wenger-Trayner <bev@...> wrote:
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Zoom is responding to these security issues. Here is an article that has an updated version of it all -?

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On Apr 22, 2020, at 18:34, Catherine Borgman-Arboleda <cborgman.arboleda@...> wrote:

Hello!
I’ve been reading about the Zoom security issues but just want to raise this again. I work with human rights groups and so security is a huge issue. Today I was talking to a women’s fund in Poland and they were expressing that their digital security folks were saying absolutely under no terms should they be using zoom and so they’ve been experimenting, with a great deal of frustration, with other platforms, mostly Jitsi I believe. It is already so challenging for them to move some of their conversations/workshops online with accessible technology, and now without access to Zoom I fear they are going stop their exploration of new ways of engaging voices online which could be really exciting for them, as they work to support the feminist movement in a country where things are very challenging right now… ?(Also, most of these smaller groups have their capacity stretched to the breaking point, and so don’t have a lot of time to spend experimenting, learning new technologies ?- it’s just a reality.)

?I am wondering if anyone has more insights into making Zoom more secure? They seem particularly worried about having now to download zoom on their computers, and the access this then gives Zoom to their other data.? Do we think Zoom has planned another tier of “more secure” accounts? Does anyone have any insights??

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Thanks Nancy :)

I’ve been enjoying the framing/language/values pieces.?

This one about metaphors:?

and this on episodic theming:?

best wishes
Ed


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Monica Ebdrup shared this on LinkedIn --> I found it a very useful piece on framing and how our language impacts understanding and process.?

8 Tips for framing Covid-19




Re: Zoom and security

 

Dear Beverly,?
Dear all,

I have a similar experience I'd like to share here. A public sector organisation I work with, dealing with all kinds of public issues, denied us to continue our learning journey for the same reason. This is very frustrating for everyone involved, we have had a standstill in learning and in exploring topics, since mid March. All workshops have been canceled until end June, then there's the summer break and we can start again in October. Meaning, we lose more than half a year of learning. I am using zoom with my other groups as it simply works best for our purpose. We have tried Microsoft Teams but it's not ideal for group facilitation for various reasons. Microsoft has announced that they'd add a new, breakout-group like functionality in April but again, it won't cover all the advantages. (Plus, it's a power struggle between tech providers, it seems.)

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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 19:43, Bev Wenger-Trayner <bev@...> wrote:
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Zoom is responding to these security issues. Here is an article that has an updated version of it all -?

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On Apr 22, 2020, at 18:34, Catherine Borgman-Arboleda <cborgman.arboleda@...> wrote:

Hello!
I’ve been reading about the Zoom security issues but just want to raise this again. I work with human rights groups and so security is a huge issue. Today I was talking to a women’s fund in Poland and they were expressing that their digital security folks were saying absolutely under no terms should they be using zoom and so they’ve been experimenting, with a great deal of frustration, with other platforms, mostly Jitsi I believe. It is already so challenging for them to move some of their conversations/workshops online with accessible technology, and now without access to Zoom I fear they are going stop their exploration of new ways of engaging voices online which could be really exciting for them, as they work to support the feminist movement in a country where things are very challenging right now… ?(Also, most of these smaller groups have their capacity stretched to the breaking point, and so don’t have a lot of time to spend experimenting, learning new technologies ?- it’s just a reality.)

?I am wondering if anyone has more insights into making Zoom more secure? They seem particularly worried about having now to download zoom on their computers, and the access this then gives Zoom to their other data.? Do we think Zoom has planned another tier of “more secure” accounts? Does anyone have any insights??

Many thanks!
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Hi Amalia!
Great to see your name and thank you for chiming in and sharing resources.
It is complicated…I think that they need to distinguish from what conversations need a higher level of security, as you mention, while at the same time availing themselves of new dynamics and tools for strengthening collective reflection, particularly from those communities they struggle to engage (and this certainly doesn’t necessarily happen best online, or at all…)

Catherine?


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Hi Catherine,?

It’s been a long time since the CIMA/MediaJustice Days! I saw this post and want to share a few resources and what I know from day-to-day work where we need serious security.?

First, I wouldn’t use Zoom, ever, for legal discussions, human rights abuse related issues or front line human rights defenders/front line organizers who are discussing or training on sensitive info.?

Here we use Jitsi or Signal (no video, but secure texting). Both have limits, but if your threat model calls for security, then you can only use truly secure tools.?

Great orgs to check out for resources/training/support:
-Equality Labs?
-Front Line Defenders?
-Amnesty International?

-amalia?






On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:34 PM Catherine Borgman-Arboleda <cborgman.arboleda@...> wrote:
Hello!
I’ve been reading about the Zoom security issues but just want to raise this again. I work with human rights groups and so security is a huge issue. Today I was talking to a women’s fund in Poland and they were expressing that their digital security folks were saying absolutely under no terms should they be using zoom and so they’ve been experimenting, with a great deal of frustration, with other platforms, mostly Jitsi I believe. It is already so challenging for them to move some of their conversations/workshops online with accessible technology, and now without access to Zoom I fear they are going stop their exploration of new ways of engaging voices online which could be really exciting for them, as they work to support the feminist movement in a country where things are very challenging right now… ?(Also, most of these smaller groups have their capacity stretched to the breaking point, and so don’t have a lot of time to spend experimenting, learning new technologies ?- it’s just a reality.)

?I am wondering if anyone has more insights into making Zoom more secure? They seem particularly worried about having now to download zoom on their computers, and the access this then gives Zoom to their other data.? Do we think Zoom has planned another tier of “more secure” accounts? Does anyone have any insights??

Many thanks!
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