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Re: The New/Old Blend: Synchronous and Asynchronous #facilitation #meetingdesign

 

I too am feeling the stretch between?slowing down and the almost?frenetic ramping up of getting?everything online so we can keep things going. I was on a free conference call last might?and the quality was so poor. We switched numbers partway through and?it didn't help. The "noise" I think is that all the available tools are getting so much extra use.

I am also homeschooling a 6 year old by myself at home while working from home, so the idea of doing some things using asynchronous tools is a great idea. I am using basic email thread with small intact teams as a way for people to check in when they can. It's helping us feel connected.

I will likely have more ideas in the wee hours and looking forward to hearing more from others.

Sarah

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:29 AM Bev Wenger-Trayner <bev@...> wrote:
Hi Nancy

I¡¯m with you. As someone from those early days, I had been thinking the same. Synchronous communication was a rarity.

(Interestingly, a number of our clients are now struggling to host synchronous events online because their institutional systems are straining under the load.)

A bug bear of mine is that I haven¡¯t found any asynchronous tools with a good threaded discussion function (like we used to have).?

You need to be able to sort by subject, author, date, etc., And you need to see on the screen how the discussion had developed. Then you can have some deeper, more meaningful conversations that build on each other.

Blogposts, slack, and don¡¯t do it. They are good for handy little messages that no-one needs to look at again. Or for generating so many parallel threads that you need a spare life to be able to hold a conversation rather than jump along on a pogo stick.

All that to say - I would love to know if anyone out there knows of a decent discussion forum tool!

Bev






On Mar 19, 2020, at 13:48, Nancy White <nancy.white@...> wrote:

This post is part "thinking out loud" and part action/question. So if you are interested in both, please read till the end.

One of the things that is showing up for me is people writing/calling/texting asking "how do I convert this F2F meeting to online?" (More on that in a separate message.)?

Well, last night I made the mistake of looking at FB before bed so I slept very poorly AND I had a lot of ideas swirling around in my head. One was a flashback of the online events many of us designed and hosted back in the "olden days" when most online events were primarily text based and asynchronous. There would be discussion threads rolled out over a period of days and people would generally have a 24-48 time period to read, post, and respond to others before we moved on to the next "agenda item." When we got really fancy we would add periodic telephone conference calls (yes, telephone!) and things really broke open when we could start to embed media like visuals, audio and video.?

The ideas behind this work was that we could include many more people than could fly to a meeting, and when we had to support access to local connectivity, it was very often FAR FAR FAR more economical than bringing people to a physical gathering. While those who were used to F2F meetings pooh-poohed us, those who never got to go to those meetings were deeply engaged, appreciative and brilliant contributors.?

Arrival to March 19 (it is March 19th, isn't it? How many days have we been quarantined in each of our corners of the world??) After 10-14 days of super intense Zoom meetings, my brain and body was not happy. The intensity (yes, of course, jacked up by the pandemic) was showing on our faces as we stared into our cameras, still wearing the same sweatshirt from ... how many days ago?

It hit me, we DO HAVE the ability to use asynchronous tools with our lovely synchronous tools. Many of us do it every day (yes, email, basecamp, trello, teams, slack) but those uses have been for tasking, small message exchange, and not really deeper conversation. (Yes, JonL - the ?conversation!) Set up a discussion board, parse out the things that can go slower, that don't need video, that focus on information exchange or slower, calmer (and deeper) conversations. Let people figure out how to take care of the kids and work by making some of the meeting time a slower, asynchronous time.?

Today I have two calls about meeting design and I wondered, how would I convert those meetings? What are some of those great approaches and techniques that worked so well 15-20 years ago??

So what I'd love to discuss - yes asynchronously for now on this email list - is our ideas for rethinking F2F longer form meetings (3 day strategic planning, 2 day training, 5 day intense team consultation) into synch/asynch online meetings. How do we rethink of time (believe me, we aren't going to sustain all day online meetings and raise the kids etc, folks. Get real quick!) What rhythm works well? How does this enhance cross time zone work.?

I have a lot of ideas, but they are all a-jumble. Please join in this thread and think with me. I'd like to bring together our best thinking over 3-5 days and then write it up (we can do that collaboratively too if folks are interested.)

AND THEN, I propose we do a series of redesign-shops where one org brings their old meeting agenda, and we offer redesign ideas. What do you think?

Chime in!




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Re: The New/Old Blend: Synchronous and Asynchronous #facilitation #meetingdesign

 

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Hi Christina :-)

Thanks for sharing this example.

I couldn¡¯t read it without my mind clicking into gear re a thought I had in my own context a few days ago¡­?

Rather than get your students to give their presentation on zoom, what about getting them to record their presentation. And then you use the time on zoom to discuss it/give feedback?

Even if there are lots of students ¡°in the room¡± you could still have a discussion with a smaller number of people while others on the call observe, comment and ask questions in the chat.

Bev


On Mar 19, 2020, at 14:09, Christina Merl <christina.merl@...> wrote:

Dear Nancy,

Thank you for writing this. I find it refreshing and a positive sign in all the current "covid-19 mania". I get the impression that "everyone" is literally trying to redesign f2f settings and be online to not miss out on anything or anyone. It's paradox - while the virus forces us to slow down and shut everything down, the craziness continues online. We transform our structures and patterns to a virtual world.

So I appreciate your thoughts very much. Mixing asynchronous and synchronous as well as using different media sounds like a very effective plan.

I am hosting a group of students this coming Saturday. We would have met f2f. The university is open-minded and encourages teachers to make the most of the situation and continue with their sessions, either via distance learning or live online.

So I have decided to do a blended format. I am currently designing the agenda and I have realised that all the tech craziness and the lack of crisis management in some organisations prevent me (I can only talk about myself here) from thinking creatively. I need to really get rid of all the noise and distraction created online and focus on my group's needs, their learning goals, my goals, the topics we are dealing with etc. While tech savviness is super important - which is why I am so thankful that you initiated this exchange and that so many people share webinars, links, etc. - all of this is so absolutely helpful and provides so much support right now - I think the overall challenge for everyone, for society, is to focus on what we really need and want (to change).? I think that's the challenge for society, no matter where.

So I'd be happy to learn along here with you. As said, I am currently designing my agenda for my group of students and I will use zoom for their presentations, I have designed some quiz material with moodle, and I have set up some materials that I find helpful for them, plus some prompts that they need to work out asynchronously but in collaborative teams. For this, we use google docs, mentimeter, and probably some 365 video presentations.

I deliberately want to keep it simple technology-wise but make it complex challenge-wise. And I am curious to get students' feedback. They are currently also under pressure as everything has changed. BTW, in that case these students all have a job, they are learning workers.

Regards from Vienna,

Christina

Am 19.03.2020 um 14:48 schrieb Nancy White:

This post is part "thinking out loud" and part action/question. So if you are interested in both, please read till the end.

One of the things that is showing up for me is people writing/calling/texting asking "how do I convert this F2F meeting to online?" (More on that in a separate message.)?

Well, last night I made the mistake of looking at FB before bed so I slept very poorly AND I had a lot of ideas swirling around in my head. One was a flashback of the online events many of us designed and hosted back in the "olden days" when most online events were primarily text based and asynchronous. There would be discussion threads rolled out over a period of days and people would generally have a 24-48 time period to read, post, and respond to others before we moved on to the next "agenda item." When we got really fancy we would add periodic telephone conference calls (yes, telephone!) and things really broke open when we could start to embed media like visuals, audio and video.?

The ideas behind this work was that we could include many more people than could fly to a meeting, and when we had to support access to local connectivity, it was very often FAR FAR FAR more economical than bringing people to a physical gathering. While those who were used to F2F meetings pooh-poohed us, those who never got to go to those meetings were deeply engaged, appreciative and brilliant contributors.?

Arrival to March 19 (it is March 19th, isn't it? How many days have we been quarantined in each of our corners of the world??) After 10-14 days of super intense Zoom meetings, my brain and body was not happy. The intensity (yes, of course, jacked up by the pandemic) was showing on our faces as we stared into our cameras, still wearing the same sweatshirt from ... how many days ago?

It hit me, we DO HAVE the ability to use asynchronous tools with our lovely synchronous tools. Many of us do it every day (yes, email, basecamp, trello, teams, slack) but those uses have been for tasking, small message exchange, and not really deeper conversation. (Yes, JonL - the ?conversation!) Set up a discussion board, parse out the things that can go slower, that don't need video, that focus on information exchange or slower, calmer (and deeper) conversations. Let people figure out how to take care of the kids and work by making some of the meeting time a slower, asynchronous time.?

Today I have two calls about meeting design and I wondered, how would I convert those meetings? What are some of those great approaches and techniques that worked so well 15-20 years ago??

So what I'd love to discuss - yes asynchronously for now on this email list - is our ideas for rethinking F2F longer form meetings (3 day strategic planning, 2 day training, 5 day intense team consultation) into synch/asynch online meetings. How do we rethink of time (believe me, we aren't going to sustain all day online meetings and raise the kids etc, folks. Get real quick!) What rhythm works well? How does this enhance cross time zone work.?

I have a lot of ideas, but they are all a-jumble. Please join in this thread and think with me. I'd like to bring together our best thinking over 3-5 days and then write it up (we can do that collaboratively too if folks are interested.)

AND THEN, I propose we do a series of redesign-shops where one org brings their old meeting agenda, and we offer redesign ideas. What do you think?

Chime in!

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Re: The New/Old Blend: Synchronous and Asynchronous #facilitation #meetingdesign

 

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Hi Nancy

I¡¯m with you. As someone from those early days, I had been thinking the same. Synchronous communication was a rarity.

(Interestingly, a number of our clients are now struggling to host synchronous events online because their institutional systems are straining under the load.)

A bug bear of mine is that I haven¡¯t found any asynchronous tools with a good threaded discussion function (like we used to have).?

You need to be able to sort by subject, author, date, etc., And you need to see on the screen how the discussion had developed. Then you can have some deeper, more meaningful conversations that build on each other.

Blogposts, slack, and don¡¯t do it. They are good for handy little messages that no-one needs to look at again. Or for generating so many parallel threads that you need a spare life to be able to hold a conversation rather than jump along on a pogo stick.

All that to say - I would love to know if anyone out there knows of a decent discussion forum tool!

Bev






On Mar 19, 2020, at 13:48, Nancy White <nancy.white@...> wrote:

This post is part "thinking out loud" and part action/question. So if you are interested in both, please read till the end.

One of the things that is showing up for me is people writing/calling/texting asking "how do I convert this F2F meeting to online?" (More on that in a separate message.)?

Well, last night I made the mistake of looking at FB before bed so I slept very poorly AND I had a lot of ideas swirling around in my head. One was a flashback of the online events many of us designed and hosted back in the "olden days" when most online events were primarily text based and asynchronous. There would be discussion threads rolled out over a period of days and people would generally have a 24-48 time period to read, post, and respond to others before we moved on to the next "agenda item." When we got really fancy we would add periodic telephone conference calls (yes, telephone!) and things really broke open when we could start to embed media like visuals, audio and video.?

The ideas behind this work was that we could include many more people than could fly to a meeting, and when we had to support access to local connectivity, it was very often FAR FAR FAR more economical than bringing people to a physical gathering. While those who were used to F2F meetings pooh-poohed us, those who never got to go to those meetings were deeply engaged, appreciative and brilliant contributors.?

Arrival to March 19 (it is March 19th, isn't it? How many days have we been quarantined in each of our corners of the world??) After 10-14 days of super intense Zoom meetings, my brain and body was not happy. The intensity (yes, of course, jacked up by the pandemic) was showing on our faces as we stared into our cameras, still wearing the same sweatshirt from ... how many days ago?

It hit me, we DO HAVE the ability to use asynchronous tools with our lovely synchronous tools. Many of us do it every day (yes, email, basecamp, trello, teams, slack) but those uses have been for tasking, small message exchange, and not really deeper conversation. (Yes, JonL - the ?conversation!) Set up a discussion board, parse out the things that can go slower, that don't need video, that focus on information exchange or slower, calmer (and deeper) conversations. Let people figure out how to take care of the kids and work by making some of the meeting time a slower, asynchronous time.?

Today I have two calls about meeting design and I wondered, how would I convert those meetings? What are some of those great approaches and techniques that worked so well 15-20 years ago??

So what I'd love to discuss - yes asynchronously for now on this email list - is our ideas for rethinking F2F longer form meetings (3 day strategic planning, 2 day training, 5 day intense team consultation) into synch/asynch online meetings. How do we rethink of time (believe me, we aren't going to sustain all day online meetings and raise the kids etc, folks. Get real quick!) What rhythm works well? How does this enhance cross time zone work.?

I have a lot of ideas, but they are all a-jumble. Please join in this thread and think with me. I'd like to bring together our best thinking over 3-5 days and then write it up (we can do that collaboratively too if folks are interested.)

AND THEN, I propose we do a series of redesign-shops where one org brings their old meeting agenda, and we offer redesign ideas. What do you think?

Chime in!



Re: When do you charge for a webinar? Would you charge for a webinar? Should you charge for a webinar?

 

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I would also separate out context. Right now there is very real need - some who can pay to get help, but most folks just struggling to figure out their next step. Some of those struggling are consultants who just lost all their business so the need for financial intention and sensitivity is super important. I feel privileged that I'm semi-retired and have choice and am able to devote time for free. And I know people around me who don't know how they are going to pay next month's bills. Some may have less sensitivity to this, some may simply be opportunistic. That's life. What IS wonderful is asking the questions, offering the ideas. (Yes, this is me in my sleep-deprived way saying thank you. My ability?to write succinctly is suffering! LOL)
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My only suggestion is transparency - offer what you can. Ask for what you need. Be a? good human being and then the chances for abundance get a lot higher. We are in this together.?

And of course, as always, Wash Your Hands (I forgot that on my last message)


Re: The New/Old Blend: Synchronous and Asynchronous #facilitation #meetingdesign

 

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Dear Nancy,

Thank you for writing this. I find it refreshing and a positive sign in all the current "covid-19 mania". I get the impression that "everyone" is literally trying to redesign f2f settings and be online to not miss out on anything or anyone. It's paradox - while the virus forces us to slow down and shut everything down, the craziness continues online. We transform our structures and patterns to a virtual world.

So I appreciate your thoughts very much. Mixing asynchronous and synchronous as well as using different media sounds like a very effective plan.

I am hosting a group of students this coming Saturday. We would have met f2f. The university is open-minded and encourages teachers to make the most of the situation and continue with their sessions, either via distance learning or live online.

So I have decided to do a blended format. I am currently designing the agenda and I have realised that all the tech craziness and the lack of crisis management in some organisations prevent me (I can only talk about myself here) from thinking creatively. I need to really get rid of all the noise and distraction created online and focus on my group's needs, their learning goals, my goals, the topics we are dealing with etc. While tech savviness is super important - which is why I am so thankful that you initiated this exchange and that so many people share webinars, links, etc. - all of this is so absolutely helpful and provides so much support right now - I think the overall challenge for everyone, for society, is to focus on what we really need and want (to change).? I think that's the challenge for society, no matter where.

So I'd be happy to learn along here with you. As said, I am currently designing my agenda for my group of students and I will use zoom for their presentations, I have designed some quiz material with moodle, and I have set up some materials that I find helpful for them, plus some prompts that they need to work out asynchronously but in collaborative teams. For this, we use google docs, mentimeter, and probably some 365 video presentations.

I deliberately want to keep it simple technology-wise but make it complex challenge-wise. And I am curious to get students' feedback. They are currently also under pressure as everything has changed. BTW, in that case these students all have a job, they are learning workers.

Regards from Vienna,

Christina

Am 19.03.2020 um 14:48 schrieb Nancy White:

This post is part "thinking out loud" and part action/question. So if you are interested in both, please read till the end.

One of the things that is showing up for me is people writing/calling/texting asking "how do I convert this F2F meeting to online?" (More on that in a separate message.)?

Well, last night I made the mistake of looking at FB before bed so I slept very poorly AND I had a lot of ideas swirling around in my head. One was a flashback of the online events many of us designed and hosted back in the "olden days" when most online events were primarily text based and asynchronous. There would be discussion threads rolled out over a period of days and people would generally have a 24-48 time period to read, post, and respond to others before we moved on to the next "agenda item." When we got really fancy we would add periodic telephone conference calls (yes, telephone!) and things really broke open when we could start to embed media like visuals, audio and video.?

The ideas behind this work was that we could include many more people than could fly to a meeting, and when we had to support access to local connectivity, it was very often FAR FAR FAR more economical than bringing people to a physical gathering. While those who were used to F2F meetings pooh-poohed us, those who never got to go to those meetings were deeply engaged, appreciative and brilliant contributors.?

Arrival to March 19 (it is March 19th, isn't it? How many days have we been quarantined in each of our corners of the world??) After 10-14 days of super intense Zoom meetings, my brain and body was not happy. The intensity (yes, of course, jacked up by the pandemic) was showing on our faces as we stared into our cameras, still wearing the same sweatshirt from ... how many days ago?

It hit me, we DO HAVE the ability to use asynchronous tools with our lovely synchronous tools. Many of us do it every day (yes, email, basecamp, trello, teams, slack) but those uses have been for tasking, small message exchange, and not really deeper conversation. (Yes, JonL - the ?conversation!) Set up a discussion board, parse out the things that can go slower, that don't need video, that focus on information exchange or slower, calmer (and deeper) conversations. Let people figure out how to take care of the kids and work by making some of the meeting time a slower, asynchronous time.?

Today I have two calls about meeting design and I wondered, how would I convert those meetings? What are some of those great approaches and techniques that worked so well 15-20 years ago??

So what I'd love to discuss - yes asynchronously for now on this email list - is our ideas for rethinking F2F longer form meetings (3 day strategic planning, 2 day training, 5 day intense team consultation) into synch/asynch online meetings. How do we rethink of time (believe me, we aren't going to sustain all day online meetings and raise the kids etc, folks. Get real quick!) What rhythm works well? How does this enhance cross time zone work.?

I have a lot of ideas, but they are all a-jumble. Please join in this thread and think with me. I'd like to bring together our best thinking over 3-5 days and then write it up (we can do that collaboratively too if folks are interested.)

AND THEN, I propose we do a series of redesign-shops where one org brings their old meeting agenda, and we offer redesign ideas. What do you think?

Chime in!

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Re: When do you charge for a webinar? Would you charge for a webinar? Should you charge for a webinar?

Fred
 

Thanks for this Nancy. I am new to this list as, like many others, I struggle to readjust to a schedule that includes no time in airports and planes (I valued the seclusion from emails and WA if I am being perfectly honest.) I think your advice on context, both for the facilitator and client is solid. I am on the client side of things (for facilitation support that is) and will always work to pay for a solution but the ability of my clients to pay will vary. The good news is there is money left from not making those flights, so long as the clients continue to have revenue and the ability to buy services. That is an evolving situation as well.


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On Thu., Mar. 19, 2020, 10:01 a.m. Nancy White, <nancy.white@...> wrote:
I would also separate out context. Right now there is very real need - some who can pay to get help, but most folks just struggling to figure out their next step. Some of those struggling are consultants who just lost all their business so the need for financial intention and sensitivity is super important. I feel privileged that I'm semi-retired and have choice and am able to devote time for free. And I know people around me who don't know how they are going to pay next month's bills. Some may have less sensitivity to this, some may simply be opportunistic. That's life. What IS wonderful is asking the questions, offering the ideas. (Yes, this is me in my sleep-deprived way saying thank you. My ability?to write succinctly is suffering! LOL)

My only suggestion is transparency - offer what you can. Ask for what you need. Be a? good human being and then the chances for abundance get a lot higher. We are in this together.?

And of course, as always, Wash Your Hands (I forgot that on my last message)

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:55 AM elana <elana@...> wrote:
Stephanie, it absolutely helps.

I think mini- online workshop is a great description.? And I think if people learn something then the donation model is great.? My pilates instructor offered a free virtual mat class on Tuesday night with an option to donate via Venmo. While I didn't send the same amount that I would send for an in class session ( where she could correct my bad form) I got a great workout and sent the donation, happily.

But this consultant uses webinars as lead generators and I don't know enough about that market place to know if "it's a real" thing. My gut says, no.?
Thanks for sharing.

Elana


Re: Online Open Space March 23rd 19:30-21:30 Central European Time (GMT+1)

 

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Me too!

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Re: List of Online facilitators? Need an experienced one for 4h meeting on 3/27 #consultants #facilitation

 

Hi Nancy, Would it be possible for my name to be on that list please?


Re: List of Online facilitators? Need an experienced one for 4h meeting on 3/27 #consultants #facilitation

 

So now I'm breathing easier. I will point people needing help to this list. And I found the spreadsheet Marion started. This one is a list of Liberating Structures facilitators with online experience - so it is a subset
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:50 AM Larry Schooler <lschooler@...> wrote:
I am happy to assist with this--please reach out.? Lschooler@...,?512-387-4876,


Re: When do you charge for a webinar? Would you charge for a webinar? Should you charge for a webinar?

 

Stephanie, it absolutely helps.

I think mini- online workshop is a great description. ?And I think if people learn something then the donation model is great. ?My pilates instructor offered a free virtual mat class on Tuesday night with an option to donate via Venmo. While I didn't send the same amount that I would send for an in class session ( where she could correct my bad form) I got a great workout and sent the donation, happily.

But this consultant uses webinars as lead generators and I don't know enough about that market place to know if "it's a real" thing. My gut says, no.?
Thanks for sharing.

Elana


Re: List of Online facilitators? Need an experienced one for 4h meeting on 3/27 #consultants #facilitation

 

I am happy to assist with this--please reach out.? Lschooler@...,?512-387-4876, linkedin.com/in/larryschooler


The New/Old Blend: Synchronous and Asynchronous #facilitation #meetingdesign

 

This post is part "thinking out loud" and part action/question. So if you are interested in both, please read till the end.

One of the things that is showing up for me is people writing/calling/texting asking "how do I convert this F2F meeting to online?" (More on that in a separate message.)?

Well, last night I made the mistake of looking at FB before bed so I slept very poorly AND I had a lot of ideas swirling around in my head. One was a flashback of the online events many of us designed and hosted back in the "olden days" when most online events were primarily text based and asynchronous. There would be discussion threads rolled out over a period of days and people would generally have a 24-48 time period to read, post, and respond to others before we moved on to the next "agenda item." When we got really fancy we would add periodic telephone conference calls (yes, telephone!) and things really broke open when we could start to embed media like visuals, audio and video.?

The ideas behind this work was that we could include many more people than could fly to a meeting, and when we had to support access to local connectivity, it was very often FAR FAR FAR more economical than bringing people to a physical gathering. While those who were used to F2F meetings pooh-poohed us, those who never got to go to those meetings were deeply engaged, appreciative and brilliant contributors.?

Arrival to March 19 (it is March 19th, isn't it? How many days have we been quarantined in each of our corners of the world??) After 10-14 days of super intense Zoom meetings, my brain and body was not happy. The intensity (yes, of course, jacked up by the pandemic) was showing on our faces as we stared into our cameras, still wearing the same sweatshirt from ... how many days ago?

It hit me, we DO HAVE the ability to use asynchronous tools with our lovely synchronous tools. Many of us do it every day (yes, email, basecamp, trello, teams, slack) but those uses have been for tasking, small message exchange, and not really deeper conversation. (Yes, JonL - the ?conversation!) Set up a discussion board, parse out the things that can go slower, that don't need video, that focus on information exchange or slower, calmer (and deeper) conversations. Let people figure out how to take care of the kids and work by making some of the meeting time a slower, asynchronous time.?

Today I have two calls about meeting design and I wondered, how would I convert those meetings? What are some of those great approaches and techniques that worked so well 15-20 years ago??

So what I'd love to discuss - yes asynchronously for now on this email list - is our ideas for rethinking F2F longer form meetings (3 day strategic planning, 2 day training, 5 day intense team consultation) into synch/asynch online meetings. How do we rethink of time (believe me, we aren't going to sustain all day online meetings and raise the kids etc, folks. Get real quick!) What rhythm works well? How does this enhance cross time zone work.?

I have a lot of ideas, but they are all a-jumble. Please join in this thread and think with me. I'd like to bring together our best thinking over 3-5 days and then write it up (we can do that collaboratively too if folks are interested.)

AND THEN, I propose we do a series of redesign-shops where one org brings their old meeting agenda, and we offer redesign ideas. What do you think?

Chime in!


Re: When do you charge for a webinar? Would you charge for a webinar? Should you charge for a webinar?

 

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Hi Elana,

I agree, most webinars are for marketing purposes, and I have never paid for any of them that I have attended and wouldn't. They typically consist of a presenter or two doing some kind of presentation/sales pitch. Even the ones that I thought might be at least a little bit educational really weren¡¯t. They were trying to sell additional coaching or some other service.

And I know you weren¡¯t referring to the ones I¡¯m doing, and I don¡¯t want this to sound defensive, so I hope it doesn¡¯t, but hopefully it helps explain/illustrate a different approach to webinars, which isn¡¯t primarily about marketing.

That said, I actually have trouble calling mine webinars because they are interactive. I don¡¯t want people just sitting back and watching, which is why I said in my description that we actually DO things. I am trying to pass on some of my learnings with mine, and show people a different way of doing things. So, I see mine as mini-online workshops rather than webinars because I¡¯m engaging people and asking them to participate. I¡¯m not pitching people at the end to sign up for coaching or other service, that¡¯s not what I do (I¡¯m not a coach, I¡¯m a knowledge management consultant). I ask for a donation at the end of mine, because hopefully the attendees got something out of it that was useful/helpful and I have put time and effort into pulling everything together, so it would be nice to receive some recognition of that, but if people don¡¯t want to or can¡¯t make a donation, that¡¯s fine, I¡¯m still going to do the sessions, because that¡¯s who I am¡ªif I can help, I will and I decided that I could do these 9 half-hour sessions that might help people do their online meetings a bit differently and have a bit more fun with them, because I suspect we¡¯re all going to be doing a lot more online meetings in the coming months. I get the experience of doing the sessions, which is worth something to me, and I get to make some new connections, which is also worth something to me, but the main reason is trying to help people that are overwhelmed with suddenly working remotely and not really knowing what to do. I¡¯ve worked remotely for 20+ years, and in a home office for 16+ (before that I was in an office but the rest of the people I worked with were somewhere else in the world).

Anyway, I hope that helps.

Thanks,
Best Regards,
Stephanie

Stephanie Barnes
Chief Catalyst
Entelechy
+49 (0)179 854 8376





On 19. Mar 2020, at 14:05, elana <elana@...> wrote:

Hello,

I have been of the mindset that webinars are primarily marketing tools and should be free. I was on a call with another consultant yesterday and he says he only does webinars that are fee-based. He says ?that people pay anywhere from $59 to $119 for a 60 min webinar. ?Given that I don't particularly enjoy the webinar format, I'm wondering what everyone else's experience is. ?My big question: when is a webinar value-added if not for marketing?

Thanks,

Elana


Re: Online Open Space March 23rd 19:30-21:30 Central European Time (GMT+1)

 

I would love to participate also !


When do you charge for a webinar? Would you charge for a webinar? Should you charge for a webinar?

 

Hello,

I have been of the mindset that webinars are primarily marketing tools and should be free. I was on a call with another consultant yesterday and he says he only does webinars that are fee-based. He says ?that people pay anywhere from $59 to $119 for a 60 min webinar. ?Given that I don't particularly enjoy the webinar format, I'm wondering what everyone else's experience is. ?My big question: when is a webinar value-added if not for marketing?

Thanks,

Elana


Re: List of Online facilitators? Need an experienced one for 4h meeting on 3/27 #consultants #facilitation

 

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Hi Astrid, you seem to be in the right place as there is a lot of expertise here!? I could certainly help ¨C based in UK, Certified Professional Facilitator, used to working in international environments = you can see my LinkedIn here ¨C

Best wishes
Simon

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Simon Wilson

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Wilson Sherriff

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Skype:? wilsonsherriff

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Dear all, sorry if I do not yet know how to best navigate topics etc in this group but is anyone aware of a contact list for online facilitators (and process designers)? I am an offline facilitator and process designer and now- thanks to you all- also learning the ropes of online facilitation. However, for a meeting on March 27th I would not want to jump in just yet but connect my colleagues with an online facilitator who is fluent in English and well versed with online facilitation (this would be paid of course). I can explain more what they are looking for but is on transatlantic policy issues. Thanks a lot and greetings from Germany- Astrid


Re: List of Online facilitators? Need an experienced one for 4h meeting on 3/27 #consultants #facilitation

 

f?has a list of ToP certified facilitators, whose certification process felt like grad school. Tougher than IAF's, according to many.

Your?best bets for that kind of conversation, in order of sector and online expertise:
Seva Ghandi
Alisa Oyler
Heidi Kolbe
Barb MacKay

Best,
Sherry



On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 8:45 AM elana <elana@...> wrote:

If there is a list, I would love to be on it. ?? Astrid, I would be happy to discuss this with you

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Subject: [f4c-response] List of Online facilitators? Need an experienced one for 4h meeting on 3/27 #consultants #facilitation

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Dear all, sorry if I do not yet know how to best navigate topics etc in this group but is anyone aware of a contact list for online facilitators (and process designers)? I am an offline facilitator and process designer and now- thanks to you all- also learning the ropes of online facilitation. However, for a meeting on March 27th I would not want to jump in just yet but connect my colleagues with an online facilitator who is fluent in English and well versed with online facilitation (this would be paid of course). I can explain more what they are looking for but is on transatlantic policy issues. Thanks a lot and greetings from Germany- Astrid



--
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Facilitator, Engagement Consultant, and Complexity Coach
651.776.3060

To-do every day:
1.?sustain what works
2.?nurture good patterns
3.?stimulate growth
4.?intervene with integrity


Re: being more creative in our online meetings #meetingdesign #events #facilitation

 

This is really exciting and I¡¯m glad to see people doing this!? I feel like I have learned more about affective digital facilitation in the last 48 hours than I have ever before. thanks for making this happen.
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephanie Barnes <stephanie@...> wrote:
Hi,?

Starting Tuesday, March 17th, I am going to do a 30 minute Zoom call to share how to bring creativity into our online/virtual meetings to make them?more engaging. We will actually DO the things, not just talk about them.

I will do the calls are daily at 3pm (15:00) CET. Each day will have a different theme/series of activities.

This experiment will happen weekdays until March 28th.

I am going with the gift economy on this, so you can pay what you feel it's worth--details will be in the call how to do this.

Zoom Meeting Details:
Topic: Being more creative in our online meetings
Join Zoom Meeting

Meeting ID: 857 931 0260
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The first one has already happened, but I recorded it and posted it here:?
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I¡¯m going to put together a package of info after the series is done and share that with anyone who is interested.

Feel free to join in any/all of the future calls or get in touch if you have questions.

Best Regards,
Stephanie

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Re: Practice session! Virtual Ice-breakers and energizers #meetingdesign #technology

 

Hello Rachel and all,

I'd love to join the March 31 session!?

Best,
Kelsey

Kelsey Paul Shantz

Program Officer

Mass Violence & Atrocities

Stanley Center for Peace and Security

c +1 563 770 0400

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Re: List of Online facilitators? Need an experienced one for 4h meeting on 3/27 #consultants #facilitation

 

Hello,?
I am available to help with on-line facilitation as well.
I have extensive experience working with distributed teams across multiple timezones and locations.
Let me know how I can help in your event with Zoom (including managing chat and breakout rooms), on-line collaboration tools ( Trello, Goodle Docs/Slides, Lino etc) and many Liberating Structures in the virtual space.?
Dana Pylayeva
Program Chair, Agile2020
Agile Coach and Founder,?
Author of?
(347)668-2164
@DanaPylayeva