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Right - new moderator off the rails!


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G.T.
 
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Although most members here may not believe me, I personally didn't know, during the last two decades on the internet, moderators who are more human than the ones of this list.
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wn4isx
 

Effective immediately I won't delete any messages regardless of my opinion on the adherence to Groups IO rules. I'll let whatever happens happen.

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I think this was my only moderator/administrator action except for asking what to do with an email I received about someone who had been kicked out for s p a m. [That word triggers all sorts of automagic responses by Groups IO]

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In addition I'll block all messages to my email I've been receiving from this group about posts to this section and to the files and links session and I won't interfere with any system created bans for s p a m.

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These steps should relieve any discomfort Gooey and others might have had with my choices and actions.

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FWIW, I never asked to be granted the God like moderator/owner powers and was given no guidelines. I'm sorry if my actions in deleting a file to protect this group caused any angst, it won't happen again.

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I still believe post a link to a site that bypasses the members only log in screen and allows papers protected by copyright by the IEEE was probably the best legal action, probably the worst possible practical step I could have taken within the group.

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Since I suspect my writing style also irritates people, I've deleted most of my posts and I will limit future posts to topics that are clearly on topic and do my best to avoid forcing thread drift. And I'll probably delete my posts a week or so after everyone has had time to read them.

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On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 09:48 PM, wn4isx wrote:
Since I suspect my writing style also irritates people, I've deleted most of my posts and I will limit future posts to topics that are clearly on topic and do my best to avoid forcing thread drift. And I'll probably delete my posts a week or so after everyone has had time to read them.

I personally like your style. You talk to others with human feelings and this is rare to happen in these days.

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The fact is that a typical moderator is supposed (by...?!) to act like a humanoid AI robot that has no choice but to execute firmly certain rules without considering anything else. I guess, this was necessary because the universal norm, mainly on the internet, is that every person is bad till proof the contrary.

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Mine is that every new person I may know, or meet is a good guy till he proves me he is not (but even in this case, nothing prevents me to still help him, if necessary, without trying to hurt him in any way). In the worst case, I just leave HIS world, in peace and for good. But let us recall that privilege bad guys hate the presence of peaceful good humans among them. So, the latter ones don't need to leave their world because, sooner or later, they will be banned :)

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Cheers,

Kerim

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On Thursday 28 November 2024 04:12:16 am Kerim via groups.io wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 09:48 PM, wn4isx wrote:


Since I suspect my writing style also irritates people, I've deleted most
of my posts and I will limit future posts to topics that are clearly on
topic and do my best to avoid forcing thread drift. And I'll probably
delete my posts a week or so after everyone has had time to read them.
I personally like your style. You talk to others with human feelings and this is rare to happen in these days.

The fact is that a typical moderator is supposed (by...?!) to act like a humanoid AI robot that has no choice but to execute firmly certain rules without considering anything else. I guess, this was necessary because the universal norm, mainly on the internet, is that every person is bad till proof the contrary.

Mine is that every new person I may know, or meet is a good guy till he proves me he is not (but even in this case, nothing prevents me to still help him, if necessary, without trying to hurt him in any way). In the worst case, I just leave HIS world, in peace and for good. But let us recall that privilege bad guys hate the presence of peaceful good humans among them. So, the latter ones don't need to leave their world because, sooner or later, they will be banned :)

Cheers,

Kerim
Works for me! :-)

And as far as deleting posts is concerned, that may work for the web interface, but as far as I'm concerned this is a mailing list. Which means that if something gets posted, a copy of that post ends up here. (Which is why when I see "edited message follows is such an irritation, because I end up with both that and the original. One time I got *five* copies of a post.)

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Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
wn4isx
 

I'm not deleting my posts to hide anything, I figure Google, MI5, CIA, NSA, ASPCA, JDL and Al Quida all have copies of everything I've publicly posted. I'm deleting to keep the group files neater and to sooth the nerves of some excitable members, one of whom I've already blocked from sending me email.
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If I write it I own it, warts mistakes and all.
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Oh and I've stopped editing but when I find a serious error I delete that post, correct it and repost it. Sorry if I clog your mailbox. I'll try to write my posts offline and let them set for a few hours while I consider what I've written and try to make any/all corrections before posting.
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It's a process.
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My best (preferred) way for correcting my mistakes in group messages, is to reply to my post and point out the error.? I quote only the words or sentence that changed.? I do not send the whole thing over again, since there is no need to do that.
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Sometimes, when the error is small and not important to tell everyone about it (or if it was an obvious error), and when I am able to do it this way, I edit my original message to fix the mistake, and save it but DO NOT send it to everyone.? Most groups do not have that option, but some do.? When correcting the mistake, I use strikethrough to make it clear what changed.
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Andy
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