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Reborn Electronics newbie with a question
I was fairly interested in electronics when I was in high school. To
the point where I built several kits including a COSMAC Elf 1802 computer. However, I strayed from the hobby over the years but am slowly returning. Now I am challenged by OpAmps and negative voltage. I do not understand how to generate a negative voltage (for differential inputs) from one power supply such as a car battery. I am trying to build a small headphone amplifier and am just coming up with noisy audio. I believe this is because I am not apply the negative voltage correctly. help! |
Jim Purcell
a_w_abate,
To the point where I built several kits including a COSMAC Elf 1802Wow, that was my first computer too. I recall being quite excited when I entered a sample program that filled a 16 bit register the did a loop of decrements and turned on a little LED when it was finished. It took about a second. I would have bought/built something more complex / complicated if I had the loot, but as a family man I didn't have any spare cash for such things. Now I am challenged by OpAmps and negative voltage.Nothing special about a negative voltage. As with all voltage what matters is the reference. Let's say that you consider the reference point on a flashlight cell is the negative terminal, then the positive terminal is at + 1.5 V. Then let's say you decide that the positive terminal is the reference, Then the negative is - 1.5 V. With op amps they often use two power sources, they ground the negative terminal of the positive source, and ground the positive terminal of the negative. Both supplies may be identical, only the grounded (power supply common) terminals make them positive or negative terminals. (for differential inputs) from one power supply such as a car battery. IIf you are using batteries, just connect one with it's negative terminal as common, i.e. grounded. Connect the other battery with it's positive terminal grounded. Now you have a common terminal, which does NOT get connected to the op amp, and a negative supply and a positive supply, which DO get connected to the op amp. One feature of an op amp is it's very high input impedance. This is achieved because of the dual supply. The output impedance is extremely low. What is really weird is that in some configurations the input at the actual op amp is actually low. The input impedance of the amplifier then is equal to the input resistor. Please don't anyone flame me on my op amp knowledge or lack thereof. I haven't worked with them in awhile. Jim |
Mounir Shita
Try this:
+ | R | *---||--------- Opamp Input | R | - Did you understand that ? I sure didn't :). The point with the negative voltage is to allow the audio signal to swing both ways Now if you're able to put the audio signal to swing around 6V instead of 0V, then you can just use the 12V car battery without a negative voltage. Use for example two 1K resistors. One between Vcc and opamp input, and one between opamp input and GND. Connect the opamp input VIA A CAPACITOR to the audio signal source. I think that should work Mounir --- In Electronics_101@y..., a_w_abate@y... wrote: I was fairly interested in electronics when I was in high school.To the point where I built several kits including a COSMAC Elf 1802voltage. I do not understand how to generate a negative voltage (forup with noisy audio. I believe this is because I am not apply the |
Himanshu Sharma
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSorry but it won't....
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Simply because you don't have just the two
resistances there...
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In fact the Op-amp has its own active resistance
and i feel that you can read that from any good book on Op-Amps......What you
can do is to give the input audio signal a DC offset of 6/Amplification
factor...that is 6 divided by amplification factor of op-amp...
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Instead if you have two source use the way jim
uncle(with due respect :-)) told in the previous thread...
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Regards :-),
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--himanshu sharma
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