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clarification on my video and radio question


 




I want to make a complex robot. To keep it simple right now I just want the
robot to send video, temperature, and altitude.



I have used a LM140 temperature sensor, whose output in 10 mV per degree Kelvin. ?I ran the output to a 10 bit A/D converter input on a PIC microcontroller. ?After scaling the data I then output it from the PIC to a PC via an RS-232 driver chip, a MAX232. ?This allows me to display temperature in Celsius on a PC. ?Similar temperature sensors are avilable whose outputs are scaled to degrees C or F.


 

I want to make a complex robot. To keep it simple right now I just want the
robot to send video, temperature, and altitude. Maybe even some other things
later on. I was thinking I can go digital or analog. When would you use
digital or analog? I would think that analog would be easier because all the
sensors and video would be in analog. But yet isn't it true that digital
would be much simpler for manipulating the many signals? The easy part is
getting the sensors and video to work, and then sending their signals to
another device. Doesn't a multiplexor combine signals? Is there anything
else that combines signals that I might want to use? What I will send to the
robot will be control signals for servo's and such.

I know I'm going to need to do studying to learn what I want to do. I just
finished reading two very basic electronics books. The books were Getting
Started in Electronics and Basic Electronics. Both are Radio Shack books.
What should I read now to help me reach the goal that I currently want to
achieve?
Lots of Thanks,
Jon










First of all keep in mind I'm a beginner. I would appreciate the groups help
in directing me for my project. This is something I have always wanted to
learn how to do. I think I want to make a carreer out of it.

From point A, I want to be able to take a video signal and other signals,
combine them into one, then send them out via radio. Then from point B
receive them, decode the signal, and use the video and other signals, for
whatever purposes I need. I also need to be able, from point B, to combine
other signals minus video this time, and send them via radio to point A, and
at point A decode those signals and use them.

I can see many steps and components involved in getting this to work, and
would highly appreciate the groups help.
Thanks,
Jon


Himanshu Sharma
 

hey ,

try and read RS485...that will help you have digital signal speed of about
2Mbps... and believe me Digital is easy and better when it comes to working
with signals and you can control them easily...(synchronous and
asynchronous...)

Regards :-),

--himanshu sharma

----- Original Message -----
From: <epsulon@...>
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:07 AM
Subject: [Electronics_101] clarification on my video and radio question


: I want to make a complex robot. To keep it simple right now I just want
the
: robot to send video, temperature, and altitude. Maybe even some other
things
: later on. I was thinking I can go digital or analog. When would you use
: digital or analog? I would think that analog would be easier because all
the
: sensors and video would be in analog. But yet isn't it true that digital
: would be much simpler for manipulating the many signals? The easy part is
: getting the sensors and video to work, and then sending their signals to
: another device. Doesn't a multiplexor combine signals? Is there anything
: else that combines signals that I might want to use? What I will send to
the
: robot will be control signals for servo's and such.
:
: I know I'm going to need to do studying to learn what I want to do. I just
: finished reading two very basic electronics books. The books were Getting
: Started in Electronics and Basic Electronics. Both are Radio Shack books.
: What should I read now to help me reach the goal that I currently want to
: achieve?
: Lots of Thanks,
: Jon
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: First of all keep in mind I'm a beginner. I would appreciate the groups
help
: in directing me for my project. This is something I have always wanted to
: learn how to do. I think I want to make a carreer out of it.
:
: >From point A, I want to be able to take a video signal and other signals,
: combine them into one, then send them out via radio. Then from point B
: receive them, decode the signal, and use the video and other signals, for
: whatever purposes I need. I also need to be able, from point B, to combine
: other signals minus video this time, and send them via radio to point A,
and
: at point A decode those signals and use them.
:
: I can see many steps and components involved in getting this to work, and
: would highly appreciate the groups help.
: Thanks,
: Jon
:
:


 

I was thinking I can go digital or analog. When would you use
digital or analog?
Hi!
Going Digital or analog depends on many factors such as the nature of
the information you want to transmit, the channel?s proprieties, etc.
Transmitting digital video at a beggining stage is not, to my
understanding a good ideia because it implies codification, in order
to reduce redundancy.

I would say that a good start is to buy a simple analog TV
transmitter. They cost around 10 Euros here in Portugal. That would
be roughly 8 USD. They offer reasonable Picture quality and have a
typical range of 30 meters.

Now, as you know, the TV channel is composed of video and audio
subchannels. What you can do very easily is to feed the video
subchannel with your picture coming from a camera, and impose the
aditional information on the audio subchannel. This very widely used
technique in telephone systems is called "in band modulation". The
audio subchannel is sufficiently large for you to make it carry sound
as well as information from your sensors. The information from the
sensors can modulate a low frequency oscillator, that feeds the
transmitters audio input. Other techniques are possible. This really
depends on the nature of the sensors.

the hardest part is the reception. You would have to extract the
sensor information from the recieved audio band. So, you can use a
comon TV set and intercept the audio signal (say from the headphone
or scart output) and decode it. Once temperature, altitude, humidity
don?t really change very fast (unless you have free fall...) the
sollution I propose is easy to achieve!

Best of luck!
Mehdi.


 

hai jon,
first read ADC book . that will give u a clear picture of analog and
digital converters.choose ADC of highere resoluton and conversion
time best is AD576 which had 36 micro second conversion time.

there are lot of muliplexer ICs are there in market. ex:4051 which
combine 8 analog signals.

best book to read is digital elctronics by simon haykins.

----- Original Message -----
From: <epsulon@X...>
To: <Electronics_101@y...>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:07 AM
Subject: [Electronics_101] clarification on my video and radio
question


: I want to make a complex robot. To keep it simple right now I
just want
the
: robot to send video, temperature, and altitude. Maybe even some
other
things
: later on. I was thinking I can go digital or analog. When would
you use
: digital or analog? I would think that analog would be easier
because all
the
: sensors and video would be in analog. But yet isn't it true that
digital
: would be much simpler for manipulating the many signals? The easy
part is
: getting the sensors and video to work, and then sending their
signals to
: another device. Doesn't a multiplexor combine signals? Is there
anything
: else that combines signals that I might want to use? What I will
send to
the
: robot will be control signals for servo's and such.
:
: I know I'm going to need to do studying to learn what I want to
do. I just
: finished reading two very basic electronics books. The books were
Getting
: Started in Electronics and Basic Electronics. Both are Radio
Shack books.
: What should I read now to help me reach the goal that I currently
want to
: achieve?
: Lots of
Thanks,
:
Jon
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: First of all keep in mind I'm a beginner. I would appreciate the
groups
help
: in directing me for my project. This is something I have always
wanted to
: learn how to do. I think I want to make a carreer out of it.
:
: >From point A, I want to be able to take a video signal and other
signals,
: combine them into one, then send them out via radio. Then from
point B
: receive them, decode the signal, and use the video and other
signals, for
: whatever purposes I need. I also need to be able, from point B,
to combine
: other signals minus video this time, and send them via radio to
point A,
and
: at point A decode those signals and use them.
:
: I can see many steps and components involved in getting this to
work, and
: would highly appreciate the groups help.
: Thanks,
:
Jon
:
: