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The IEEE is like Disney, they are extremely protective of their intellectual property.
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I took a chance and deleted a post that gave a link to bypass a paywall.
I believe it violates Groups IO terms of service.
I'd like for other mods and owners to confirm my action was proper.
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For instance, the today's great intellectual property of IEEE still has no idea of the simplest and most reliable DSB-SC demodulator which I did (in 1979) as an MS thesis, and I used it for many years, in the 80's, in my private short-range (3 km) RF voice links. It can, unlike the two known ones of Costas Loop and the Squaring method, be integrated as a low-cost IC (it doesn't need I-Q signals or a selective filter).
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I mean, they made themselves so protective to the point they cannot have any idea of an Innovation, if not invention, if made outside their world :)
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For instance, when I heard of IEEE for the first time (many decades ago), I thought they were the World's Light of Knowledge.
Later, when I knew them better, it became natural to me that they have no choice to be so, like it is the case of every privileged rich man around the world (a natural truth revealed already 2000 years ago).? We like it or not, this is how the world is designed :)
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After all, we all here were given a bright human brain to help us solve any problem that we may face and we really need to solve, mainly in electronics, right?
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like it or not, this is how the world is designed
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Worth noting, however, that the design is of man's creation? And, for all the ills complained of in this democratic republic, designed by those we the people have elected to represent us. There is no literacy test of potential voters, no minimum level of education, beyond the ability to complete a registration form.
Heck one could fail their driver's test a dozen times and still cast a valid ballot - or, openly carry a forty-five caliber semi-automatic weapon most everywhere (except where their elected representatives gather).
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I was a IEEEE?member for decades and then when I retired I renewed for something like 50.00. Now that want over 4X than much. It's now all about the money just like the SAE which I was also a member and on some of the committees?in the 90's.
Needless to say I dropped both memberships. Sam Reaves
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IEEE membership is free for retired members. Bertho ?
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Sent: 24 November, 2024 19:11
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Subject: Re: [electronics101] Post deleted? I was a IEEEE?member for decades and then when I retired I renewed for something like 50.00. Now that want over 4X than much. It's now all about the money just like the SAE which I was also a member and on some of the committees?in the 90's. Needless to say I dropped both memberships.
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Let's be a little careful about straying into the group's forbidden territory.? ?Just a word of caution, try to be careful.? It's good that there are no outright rants so far.
no sports, politics, or religion on the list
Andy
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On Sunday 24 November 2024 08:37:11 pm wn4isx via groups.io wrote: I'm more worried about medical malpractice then someone with a firearm. Which is why we try to really understand and participate in what we're dealing with. So far that's working out pretty well. And firearms? It really depends on who. I've seen people at some of the public ranges do some really stupid stuff. Or some 16 year old girl texting to a friend behind the wheel.
Or repeat drunk drivers....in January of 2023 my wife was driving, making a right turn and a woman tried to pass between us and the curb...on the right side... in about 3 feet of road and curb space.
She tried to claim my wife was turning left but multiple witnesses confirmed my wife was turning right with the proper turn signal flashing. When my brother got rear-ended once while waiting to make a left turn off a 2-lane, the cops that responded took the bulb remnants. I guess it's not too hard to determine if that bulb was lit. The cops were less then kind to her when she wanted to argue and started to attack my wife but Mr. Taser demonstrated a gazillion volts will take down a 300 pound psycho woman in an instant. Makes them twitch nicely too.
It gave me an entire new determination to never argue with the long arm of the law to avoid getting lit up. Many years back we were trying to help some guy out who ended up getting abusive after showing up drunk. Cops were called, and he got belligerent. One lady cop with a billy club adjusted his attitude rather quickly. The woman had a dozen priors but was well respected and managed to avoid serious problems.
Since we shared auto insurance companies, our insurance company cancelled her insurance, she got popped a month later for another DUI accident and the state finally acted. Ten years no chance of early release.
So unsad. My brother's house is situated on a rather long hill, and just a bit above the place is a curve, and people tend to drive down that hill too fast and lose it, ending up in his front yard. On one occasion there was some damage to the porch. Sometimes they take off after that. One guy they caught was driving on a suspended license. One gal was drunk, and jumped out of her car after ending up in the neighbor's driveway and ran out across the fields, barefoot. They eventually caught her, too. He's talking about some "landscaping" involving the use of some rather large boulders... In Lexington Kentucky the best way not to get shot is not to deal illegal drugs and to avoid open drug markets....
Yup, it's good to stay away from such stuff. -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin
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Incredulous that this thread, ostensibly started to justify/explain the removal of a post deemed inappropriate continues without moderation with a prime participant the moderator first justifying the application of the posting rule(s).
"Post Deleted" indeed!
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"About 440,000 people died in the USA in any given year from medical errors, that's over 1200 a day." One man's opinion - no source cited. (440,000/350,000000=0.0013 (Rounded up))
- Life expectancy: 77.5 years
- Infant Mortality rate: 5.60 deaths per 1,000 live births
. Number of deaths for leading causes of death - Heart disease: 702,880
- Cancer: 608,371
- Accidents (unintentional injuries): 227,039
- COVID-19: 186,552
- Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 165,393
- Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,382
- Alzheimer¡¯s disease: 120,122
- Diabetes: 101,209
- Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 57,937
- Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis: 54,803
Source:
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I would view the Covid death count with skepticism. There were even reports of Covid deaths for accident victims. Lots of unexpected deaths in the obits these days.
Expect the life expectancy to drop over the coming years.?
How many deaths from flu on ?average per year?
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On Nov 26, 2024, at 10:52 AM, Gooey via groups.io <gooeytarballs@...> wrote:
? "About 440,000 people died in the USA in any given year from medical errors, that's over 1200 a day." One man's opinion - no source cited. (440,000/350,000000=0.0013 (Rounded up))
- Life expectancy: 77.5 years
- Infant Mortality rate: 5.60 deaths per 1,000 live births
. Number of deaths for leading causes of death - Heart disease: 702,880
- Cancer: 608,371
- Accidents (unintentional injuries): 227,039
- COVID-19: 186,552
- Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 165,393
- Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,382
- Alzheimer¡¯s disease: 120,122
- Diabetes: 101,209
- Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 57,937
- Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis: 54,803
Source:
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What list is this again? -- Aaron Turner My father once told me that respect for the truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. "Something cannot emerge from nothing," he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable "the truth" can be. -- Frank Herbert, Dune On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 10:35?AM Mail via groups.io <Pfaff1222@...> wrote:
I would view the Covid death count with skepticism. There were even reports of Covid deaths for accident victims. Lots of unexpected deaths in the obits these days.
Expect the life expectancy to drop over the coming years.
How many deaths from flu on average per year?
On Nov 26, 2024, at 10:52 AM, Gooey via groups.io <gooeytarballs@...> wrote:
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"About 440,000 people died in the USA in any given year from medical errors, that's over 1200 a day." One man's opinion - no source cited. (440,000/350,000000=0.0013 (Rounded up))
Life expectancy: 77.5 years
Infant Mortality rate: 5.60 deaths per 1,000 live births
More than 3 million persons died in the United States in 2023. The overall age-adjusted death rate in 2023 was 6.1% lower than in 2022. The overall death rate was highest among non-Hispanic Black or African American persons. The number of deaths from COVID-19 was 68.9% lower than in 2022. .
Data are for the U.S.
Number of deaths for leading causes of death
Heart disease: 702,880
Cancer: 608,371
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 227,039
COVID-19: 186,552
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 165,393
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,382
Alzheimer¡¯s disease: 120,122
Diabetes: 101,209
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 57,937
Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis: 54,803
Source: Mortality in the United States, 2022, data table for figure 4
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I locked the thread because it included a link to what could be considered a web page to steal intellectual property, not out of any dislike of the poster or anger at the post.
Groups IO has some specific rules on IP theft and I felt it better to play it safe then sorry and get our group sanctioned.
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As I've made clear several times I'm unsure of proper protocol when it comes to such acts and took a chance not to hide data from the IEEE but to protect our group.
Sort of "Better safe then sorry."
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Like most professional organizations, the IEEE is extremely protective of their IP.
Try snagging copies of any if the UK, ANSI, or SAE publications and publishing them.
I suspect you will receive a "take down order" fairly fast.
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I'm sorry if my actions offended you but such is life.
Feel free to join the various IEEE divisions so you can read all the papers I referenced.
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I unlocked your thread for this explanation.
If you disagree with my actions, complain to the other mods and owners and perhaps they will strip me of my powers and perhaps even use the banhammer on me.
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Oh, I didn't volunteer for this august position, I woke up one morning to learn I have some unasked for responsibilities.
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As I wrote in the first post in this insane thread....
" The IEEE is like Disney, they are extremely protective of their intellectual property.
I took a chance and deleted a post that gave a link to bypass a paywall.
I believe it violates Groups IO terms of service.
I'd like for other mods and owners to confirm my action was proper."
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I did not expect it to attract any attention other then questions or complaints about my decision.
I'll stand by my decision and delete each and every post that includes links to bypass intellectual property, until other mods/owners tell me to stop.
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I unlocked your thread for this explanation.
If you disagree with my actions, complain to the other mods and owners and perhaps they will strip me of my powers and perhaps even use the banhammer on me.
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Oh, I've relocked this thread, it has turned into a mess.
The next time I make a post saying "I've deleted X" I will lock that thread to prevent growth.
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Gooey
Sam Reaves
Bertho