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Re: Teleportation

 

Perhaps this should be on the Mad Scientist list.



I think it was the quantum state of a photon, not the actual photon
that was "teleported". Although for all intents and purposes, I
suppose that -is- the photon.

Alien Steve

--- In Electronics_101@..., srinivas rao <ksrao_iete@y...>
wrote:
hi all

wanna discuss something very Seriously

Teleportation.... yah.....


it is the king of technology in the nearby future where people will
be transmitted from one place to another within a fraction of seconds.
already the researches are going on and at IBM researchers have
researched this technology and found some success on teleporting the
photons of light successfully.

looking at the future where we can compete the unknown aliens
(beleived to be present)

looking to be so hi-fi and lot of sci-fi

trying to compare the replies

bye


Teleportation

srinivas rao
 

hi all
?
wanna discuss something very Seriously
?
Teleportation....? yah.....
?
?
it is the king of technology in the nearby future where people will be transmitted from one place to another within a fraction of seconds. already the researches are going on and at IBM researchers have?researched this technology and found some success on teleporting the photons of light successfully.
?
looking at the future where we can compete the unknown aliens (beleived to be present)
?
looking to be so hi-fi and lot of sci-fi
?
trying to compare the replies
?
bye..
?
?
?


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Re: Sound card as digital Oscope

 

You can download free software for using your sound card as an
oscilloscope through my web page. The link for the electrical
engineering files is:


There you can download the file named: digital oscilloscope

I want to mentione that the software is not written by me but the
author of the program permits the free use of his program.

Also because the sound card has limits on the frequency that can
acquire don't expect the sample frequency to be large enough for
your requirements. But for a few KHertz sampling is great.

Thank You,
Lucas.


Power supply design

Anthony Toft
 

I am trying to desing a power supply, including a 12v flyback regulator
(it's for my incar mp3 player).

The regulator I have is a national LM2587, there are designs in the app
notes but all include a transformer. As I think I'll need more than one
regulator (for more current) I'd prefer not to. Is it possible to built
one with an inductor?



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Anthony Toft <toftat@...>


Re: Teleportation

 

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In a message dated 4/22/2004 11:02:17 PM Central Standard Time, ksrao_iete@... writes:
wanna discuss something very Seriously Teleportation....? yah.....
?
Did someone say "substance-abuse"???


Re: increase cable strength

 

with out any details its very hard to say but why dont you just try
it with the longer cable. 8 extra inches isn't going to make much of
a difference unless its a really tiny gauge wire and even then you
could go to a bigger gauge. We're talking V drop in low mVs if not
uVs. people often spec things *very* conservatively.

assuming its logic and you absolutely need buffers, just about any
buffer would do the trick. I'd look at CMOS since it can drive
closer to the rails - 74HC series would probably be ok.

--- In Electronics_101@..., "sd7008us" <sd7008us@y...>
wrote:
Hi all,


I have an application where I need to have longer cable, but the
chip that we are using only can drive 10cm cable length and I need
about 12 inches cable. Any idea what kind of buffers I need to
drive
the signals to the other side without losing data?

Thanks,

SD


Re: increase cable strength

Stefan Trethan
 

More details!


ST

p.s. WAY more details

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:21:20 -0000, sd7008us <sd7008us@...> wrote:

Hi all,


I have an application where I need to have longer cable, but the
chip that we are using only can drive 10cm cable length and I need
about 12 inches cable. Any idea what kind of buffers I need to drive
the signals to the other side without losing data?

Thanks,

SD





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increase cable strength

sd7008us
 

Hi all,


I have an application where I need to have longer cable, but the
chip that we are using only can drive 10cm cable length and I need
about 12 inches cable. Any idea what kind of buffers I need to drive
the signals to the other side without losing data?

Thanks,

SD


Re: Microstripline

Roy J. Tellason
 

On Wednesday 21 April 2004 05:33 pm, Steve wrote:

Doh! forgot to change the subject line the first time...
Doesn't matter, I read 'em all anyway! If it gets to the point where there
are more that aren't of interest than are, I unsubscribe...


Re: Sound card as digital Oscope

Roy J. Tellason
 

On Wednesday 21 April 2004 05:32 pm, Steve wrote:

You can do all the same things with it that you can with coax.
Matching impedances, mixers, resonant stubs, couplers, etc.
This sounds like it's getting into RF, that "voodoo" area of electronics that
I tend, for the most part, to stay away from... :-)


Re: Microstripline

Keith
 

See Appcad in the links section.

Keith.


Microstripline

 

Doh! forgot to change the subject line the first time...

--- In Electronics_101@..., "Roy J. Tellason"
<rtellason@b...> wrote:
Alien Steve said:
Microstripline so impedances match in circuit.
Heard of that stuff, never saw any (that I know of) or worked with
it. What
can you tell me about it?
Google is your friend. So is the Links section, I had previously
posted a lot of links on Microstripline, mostly impedance calculators.

Basically a trace on a board with a groundplane on back acts as a
transmission line. The impedance varies inversely with the width of
the trace.

A stripline transmission line is when it is in the center, enclosed by
ground planes on top and bottom. A microstripline is when it is just a
double-sided board with ground on one side, copper strip on other open
to the air on top.

You can do all the same things with it that you can with coax.
Matching impedances, mixers, resonant stubs, couplers, etc.

Alien Steve


Re: Sound card as digital Oscope

 

--- In Electronics_101@..., "Roy J. Tellason"
<rtellason@b...> wrote:
Alien Steve said:
Microstripline so impedances match in circuit.
Heard of that stuff, never saw any (that I know of) or worked with
it. What
can you tell me about it?
Google is your friend. So is the Links section, I had previously
posted a lot of links on Microstripline, mostly impedance calculators.

Basically a trace on a board with a groundplane on back acts as a
transmission line. The impedance varies inversely with the width of
the trace.

A stripline transmission line is when it is in the center, enclosed by
ground planes on top and bottom. A microstripline is when it is just a
double-sided board with ground on one side, copper strip on other open
to the air on top.

You can do all the same things with it that you can with coax.
Matching impedances, mixers, resonant stubs, couplers, etc.

Alien Steve


Re: home-made signal generator question

leon_heller
 

--- In Electronics_101@..., "Murat Ceylan" <hector@g...>
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'd like to build a signal generator that is not too professional
but good
enough for general use i.e. that can produce sine, sawtooth and
square
waveforms in 1-50kHz range or so with reasonable reliability. Do
you happen
to have any schematics, suggestions, assembly tips etc.?
Neatest way is to use a software DDS:



Leon


Re: signal oscillation

Keith
 

--- In Electronics_101@..., "dangermouse"
<dangermouse1956@g...> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith" <keith@k...>
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:14 AM
Subject: [Electronics_101] Re: signal oscillation


The
dominant noise component is usually the feedback resistor. Reducing
this by a factor if 10 will only reduce the noise by a factor of
sqrt(10) so you are roughly 3 times worse off for signal to noise
ratio. Reduce it by 100 and you are 10 times worse off. There is
also opamp current and voltage noise to consider.

Keith.
What if you also reduce the input resistor by the same proportion,
so as to
keep the stage gain the same? Would the s/n ratio not improve?

-DM
If it is a current to voltage converter (transimpedance amplifier)
there is no input resistor. The "transimpedance" is simply the
feedback resistor value.

A capacitor across the feedback resistor can help, but quickly kills
the frequency response.

Keith.


Re: signal oscillation

dangermouse
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith" <keith@...>
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:14 AM
Subject: [Electronics_101] Re: signal oscillation


The
dominant noise component is usually the feedback resistor. Reducing
this by a factor if 10 will only reduce the noise by a factor of
sqrt(10) so you are roughly 3 times worse off for signal to noise
ratio. Reduce it by 100 and you are 10 times worse off. There is
also opamp current and voltage noise to consider.

Keith.
What if you also reduce the input resistor by the same proportion, so as to
keep the stage gain the same? Would the s/n ratio not improve?

-DM


Re: signal oscillation

Keith
 

--- In Electronics_101@..., "ktauyeung" <ktauyeung@y...>
wrote:
I am working on a high-gain current-to-voltage amplifier. I need to
convert a very low pulsed current signal (100 microsec, <nanoamp)
into a voltage signal (>10 mV) that I can read from the scope. I
tried the amplifier using a low-gain (0.2 V/microamp) setting, and it
works ok. When I tried it with a higher gain (2 V/microamp),
oscillations (~10 microsec, regular amplitude) showed up on the scope
display. I'd like to fix that, but don't know how. I need some help,
if you know how to fix it and what is the cause of that, please let
me know. Thanks!
Is the current source a photodiode? If so, that is probably the cause
of the oscillations. If you have access to a Spice simulator you
could quickly check it. What opamp are you using? 2M ohms is NOT a
large resistor for such an amplifier. They can easily be 10M or 100M.
If you use two stages you could be dogged by noise problems. The
dominant noise component is usually the feedback resistor. Reducing
this by a factor if 10 will only reduce the noise by a factor of
sqrt(10) so you are roughly 3 times worse off for signal to noise
ratio. Reduce it by 100 and you are 10 times worse off. There is
also opamp current and voltage noise to consider.

Keith.


Answers to quiz

Rob
 

Here are the answers to the quiz that I posted yesterday.

1) b

2) c

3) a

4) d

5) e

6) b

7) b

8) b

9) a

10) c

11) a

12) c

13) c

14) b

15) b

16) a

17) a

18) b

19) c

20) a

21) a

22) 4

23) c

24) a

25) c


Re: Triac instead of relay ?

Stefan Trethan
 

power meters work.
The one we have here now is like that. The one where we used to live was
electronic, sort of. The display, instead of being the usual mechanical
stuff, was a small LCD panel which would sequence through a number of
different things, cumulative and otherwise. That gave that particular power
company the ability to nail us for more money during "peak" hours vs.
"off-peak" hours and similar nonsense. I wasn't real happy about that.

same here, the new generation is digital with a lcd display.
They say the advantage is that they can do a remote readout if they want
so they no longer have to send one to read it.
In reality most people alerady do their own reading and send the result
in via mail or phone or www. they only do spot tests to avoid cheating.
I bet the new meter gives them some means of charging us more....

It has also a voltage and current multiplying unit, it would
not be fair to disregard the voltage.
it can vary from say 240 to 220 V, or at least 240 to 230V which are a few % less
energy you get out witht the same amps.

ST


Re: signal oscillation

Scott Thompson
 

I read that 100 microseconds was the update time and that it was a
current-to-voltage converter where 1 microamp converted to 2 volts. Using
a typical op-amp setup, this would require a 2M ohm resistor. Take the
inverse of 2*pi*10kHz*2M and you get the approximate value of capacitance
where the closed loop gain will be reduced to unity (did I remember that
right?). I picked a smaller resistor value to allow the full bandwidth (I
didn't want to approach the 3dB point).

I assumed the current was being fed into the inverting input to an op-amp
and the feedback resistor was converting the current into a voltage.

Best,
Scotty

[Original Message]
From: Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...>
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Date: 4/20/2004 1:36:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] signal oscillation

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:27:27 -0700, Scott Thompson
<electronguy@...> wrote:

The high-valued feedback resistor is perhaps causing a lot of phase
shift because of the feedback capacitance, etc.

Try a 6.8 pF capacitor across your 2M feedback resistor.

Best,
Scotty
Where do you see a schematic or know the value of the feedback resistor?

2M feedback is really high, try to stay between 1k and 100k.
maybe lower if you don't load the output with it (e.g. noninverting amp
the resistor
from inv to ground)

Or use two stages if you can't fit that much gain in one.

ST



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