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On Friday 06 October 2006 02:06 am, Dave Mucha wrote:

Yes, that's why people thought the total number of computers

the world would be under ten.

At one time it looked like the Internet was going to make that a

With leased software on the server and the home terminal

your TV.

Of course that would only be a very specific type of computer.

That sounds like gates' wet dream, or something. And it seems to

there's a whole lot of folks that are not going to be inclined to

such nonsense.

--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that

be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet

-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by

M Dakin

I've been reading through my 123 Microcontroller Experiments by Myke

and have a question about the interrupts he uses in his assembler

the 16F684. Like other PICs I am familiar with, the 16F684 seems to

as the interrupt vector, but Myke doesn't seem to use it. Instead he

repeatedly bit checks the INTCON flags. Doesn't the PIC jump to 0x04

on an interrupt? What am I missing? Is it that he is clearing the

flag before the interrupt latency cycles have expired? If so, am I

that the newer PICs don't have such interrupt latency?



Here is a sample of the code:



btfss INTCON, T0IF

goto $ - 1

bcf Servo1Pin

movwf TMR0

bcf INTCON, T0IF





Is the PIClist dead? I tried to send a message there two weeks ago

even) and it has not shown up. I may be on moderated status because

never posted there before, but I figured the moderator would have

my post by now.





Thanks,

Len

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M Dakin,

--- In Electronics_101@..., "Roy J. Tellason"
<rtellason@...> wrote:

Yes, that's why people thought the total number of computers used in
the world would be under ten.

At one time it looked like the Internet was going to make that a reality.

With leased software on the server and the home terminal connected to
your TV.

Of course that would only be a very specific type of computer.

Those large early computers (and it really doesn't matter if we are
talking room-sized or house-sized here) weren't nearly as powerful as what
you get in terms of micros today for under $10. But basically there's no
problem building a simple computer from relays or logic, people with a
twisted sense of "fun" have done that "just because".

Many folks do not trim previous material, and this often makes looking for
the response tedious and extra time consuming.

I understand the part that top posting is considered some kind of rude
netiquette violation, but I don't buy it.

BAH! (*waving the paw*)
English got NOTHIN' on German. Observer these quotes from Mark Twain:
The Germans have an inhuman way of cutting up their verbs. Now a verb
has a hard time enough of it in this world when it's all together.
It's downright inhuman to split it up. But that's just what those
Germans do. They take part of a verb and put it down here, like a
stake, and they take the other part of it and put it away over yonder
like another stake, and between these two limits they just shovel in
German.
- Mark Twain's Speeches, "Disappearance of Literature"
Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last
you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of his
Atlantic with his verb in his mouth.
- A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
Or, this gem from his text "The Awful German Language":

...finally, all the parentheses and reparentheses are massed together
between a couple of king-parentheses, one of which is placed in the
first line of the majestic sentence and the other in the middle of
the last line of it -- after which comes the VERB, and you find out
for the first time what the man has been talking about...
Bob H.

The notion that other cultures might reverse left and right is of
course silly. However, it is true that English sentence structure
is difficult for many folks with English as a second language.
That is because we construct our sentences a bit differently than
most other languages. Subject, verb, and modifier positioning in
English is often not intuitive for speakers of many other languages.

Stefan:
That is like arguing that the world (or even the Universe) would
continue to function without humans. This is true, but hardly
interesting. At least Ron's comments contextualize the conversation.
Just my thoughts...
Bob H. (electronic philosopher...)

So what?
Dave said the world would function with 4 computers, i said it has
worked for quite a while without any at all.
I dunno what you are on about? Nobody was considering the meaning of
life, the universe, and everything here, nor was anyone discussing
the merits of computers.

ST

Actually, it is partly true that languages in Far East Asia reverses
subject, verb, etc. depending on which country we are referring to.

My
wife is from the Phillipains(?) and have noticed most far east
people tend to reverse words.

ST,
The world did ok until electricity and computers, that is the half
that survived. Before 1900 half the kids did not see the age of 6.
We did not get Gout and cancer related deceases, but then again
cancer is normally found late in life after 50 and not too long ago
if you were over 40 you were living on borrowed time. Today if you
die from natural causes before 80 you probably lived ruff and wild
life.
We tend to live in our present time and think our generation is
going to see the world end, hi. We are the chosen.
ron

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:06:59 +0200, Dave Mucha <dave_mucha@...>
wrote:

But, theoretically, the planet could work well with only

if you limit the definition to the PC and connect everyone to

Internet.

Well, the world did work fairly OK _without_ any computers and

You couldn't connect _anyone_ to the internet without computers.

need at least a somewhat capable micro locally, and to me this is

as a computer (because it is).

ST