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Re: New to PSUD2 and modeling from a schematic...
Thanks for letting me know about the other channel, it was in Japanese, but I should have done the decent thing and waved Google Translate over it, apologies.
I've keyed your schematic into PSUD2 and I'm getting exactly the same results. I tried it in (the unreleased) PSUD3 and it's giving 10V more and a "thump" at the start. So there's a problem in PSUD2. If you simulate PSUD2 for about 10-20mS it shows a substantial amount of dithering so the simplified model is getting confused. Here's what PSUD3 shows: Here's the bump at the start in more detail: By increasing the transformer off-load voltage to 260V which is a typical value (base + 8%) it will give 257-258V output. However, the results are still low on PSUD2, here's the dithering at the start of the simulation I mentioned earlier - a sure sign that it's struggling to do the calculations: Conclusion: PSUD2 has some holes in the simulator and they are showing up on the schematic you keyed in. There's no bug fix that I can apply as the PSUD2 simulator engine is broken as designed. I'll put a beta of PSUD3 out on here about 2nd / 3rd week in August; being a beta it will probably have a few issues of it's own but at least it's accurate and any issues that are found should be fixable. Regards, Duncan |
Re: New to PSUD2 and modeling from a schematic...
Thanks for the clarification regarding off-load voltage and rated voltage.
About the current draw... the schematic is for a stereo amp so I estimated around 96mA for two 6V6 and two EF86. The arrow at the node that reads 258V translates as "To other channels." That said, maybe I'm reading the schematic wrong and the 258V reflects only that one side of the amp... but wouldn't you model the entire current draw (all tubes) on the power supply? |
Re: New to PSUD2 and modeling from a schematic...
I can see a couple of potential issues:
1. The transformer voltage should be the off-load voltage rather than the rated voltage. If you can't find out from the transformer manufacturer, try taking the rated voltage of 240V and adding around 5%-8% 2. I think 96mA is a very high current draw for a single 6V6 and an EF86, I would be inclined to go for around 50mA in the absence of solid data Try those and see if the results end up being closer to what you expect. Regards, Duncan |
New to PSUD2 and modeling from a schematic...
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi! I'm new to PSUD and practicing on a model of an existing circuit. For the life of me, I can't get the voltages to agree. All the values seem to be right but the voltages are coming up considerably lower than what is to be expected at the end of the power supply (B+). Any thoughts on why I'm falling short on voltage? I've attached an image of the schematic and my current PSUD design.? I imagine I'm missing something obvious or I'm just doing something wrong in PSUD. Thanks in advance. Jonah |
Still bemused ~ as to what constitutes 'good' or 'good enough' and how to design with grace and economy...
neutron51493
Hello
Thanks to group members answering my previous Q - adding sections and solved by tapping on a Mac trackpad (!)? Yep, I had no idea. However, and having reviewed the available documentation on PSUD2, that I can find, anyway, I'm still in a quandary about what to 'look out for' and how to actually i.e. practically go about designing a 'good' 'good enough' PSU?? For instance, although it's a simple task for me to measure primary and secondary winding resistances, I do not know the % regulation of my Trafo.? Nor do I understand the application or function of 'current taps.'? Is my 'final' load - 5k¦¸ or 86.5mA (the combined load of a 300B and a 6N8S / 6H8C?? To me all these things are still mysteries. has helped me, a little, thanks DHTROB, but maybe I''m just not 'clever enough' or cut out for this kind of thing and perhaps there may be other people in similar difficulty? ? |
Re: Downloading Windows version
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIn the corporate world, I suffered with McAfee, Norton, AVG. As a developer, fewer install problems from MalwareBytes using customers, but that could be due to market penetration. MalwareBytes outshines all the others on our personal machines. First used in the early '00's. IMO, the best support when needed, the least intrusive, plays well w almost installers. AND group pricing for several PCs, not a separate license for laptops and desktops - Ian On 6/12/2023 09:51, KM4TRT via
groups.io wrote:
Not to sound like a shill for Malware Bytes, but I've been using them for years, first the free version and then the paid version |
Re: Downloading Windows version
Apologies, I was about to reply but you have summed it up nicely Paul.
Yes, for a few years MS throws an error message when installing uncertified software. I'll sort out the Microsoft certification and code signing bit in the fullness of time, there are quite a few hoops to jump through:? My own experience with AV software on Windows hasn't been great; AVG and McAfee have hit me with a number of false positives in previous years so I just use the Microsoft Defender that's built into Windows these days. However, it's a matter of what your comfortable with. Regards, Duncan |
Re: Downloading Windows version
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 6/6/2023 11:41 AM, leswinter via
groups.io wrote:
since updating my computer, the new download of spud doesn't work.? McAfee blocks it.? Tried on two computers.? On one it says incompatible.? On the other McAfee stops it.? The download worked fine.? Opening the app doesn't. Duncan may be busy. I done some software support and know the
usual questions. What version of Windows? 7, 8, 10, 12? "incompatible" MAY just mean that Duncan has not paid Microsoft
to be developer certified. This is mostly about MS being
monopolistic. There may be a way to tick-off "run anyway". As for McAfee... &^%$#@! It was a good idea 20+ years ago.
But now McAfee seems to cause more problems than cures. Between
the software with Duncan's own name on it, and software from a
marketing machine who took-over from a madman, _I_ would turn-off
the McAfee for long enough to install PSUD. |
Re: Downloading Windows version
First post here: since updating my computer, the new download of spud doesn't work.? McAfee blocks it.? Tried on two computers.? On one it says incompatible.? On the other McAfee stops it.? The download worked fine.? Opening the app doesn't.? Any suggestions?
thank you\ les |
Re: psu sofware
Hi,
You're going to need to give a bit more information. Did it:
Also if you could tell me which operating system you have, that would be a help too. Regards, Duncan |
Re: Downloading Windows version
Hi Jay,
Go to the website?/g/duncanampspsud?then down the left side, you will see the files area. Click on that, then click on the link for psud2_windows. Click on the build76 file and it will download for you.
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Re: MacOS
Thanks for the reply. I can confirm that Psud2 has full disk access, and returns the errors as in my previous message. ? Whatever the issue is, it's not about disk access as far as I can tell. ? On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 11:01 AM Duncan Munro <duncan@...> wrote: Hi Chris, |
Re: MacOS
Hi Chris,
Something similar came up a couple of years ago, it involves a slight tweak to the MacOS settings. There's an article on it here that shows the exact same problem, and then further down, how to fix it.?/g/duncanampspsud/topic/77707176#16 Regards, Duncan |
MacOS
Not sure if this is the same issue, but I have not been able to run PSUD2 for months on my Mac, running Ventura 3.1. I am able to download the app, and install with the usual MacOS precautions. However, when I run the app, I get So, clicking on "OK," then the program quits with this message: I've tried removing the program, then redownloading -- but the same error continues. |
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