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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the message, however there are a few paragraphs in it which I need to comment on, specifically:
> PSUD II is specifically written for the? Windows OSes and requires the Win32 library (only available on a Mac running a windows virtual machine or emulator).
While it's 100% true to say that PSUD II was originally written for Windows, it is now a multi-platform development covering Windows and MacOS. The replacement, PSUD3, will also encompass Linux installations as this appears to be a popular operating system with hobbyists. I can confirm that PSUD II does not require a Win32 library when used on MacOS, it uses the Cocoa widget set which is native to the Apple XCode development environment - it's a 100% MacOS app, not a port or something run on top of something else. I am actually registered as an Apple Developer, just not an Apple Store customer.
> The $99 cost for using the apple store is most likely not the issue.
Correct - this is not just about money, this is about giving up time to learn the Apple store, maintain it, abide by all the rules, having software tested/reviewed/rejected etc.? I'm not ruling it out for the future (it may result in a small charge for the app), but for now, it's not in the plan. The "non developer" MacOS version is easy for me to do, so I continue doing it.
> He would have to translate the program to a code language that is compatible with the Apple OS.? This is not a trivial exercise and could take months to do.
To be 100% clear about this, there's no translation involved. It's exactly the same code used on the Apple as is used on Windows. There are minor variations, for example with handling filenames and location of personal data as these vary between operating systems; but in the main, it's the same piece of code.
As a high level view, I'm trying to keep this group as a support resource to help those who need advice with using the software. I'm happy to give up time to do that and there are also others in this place who give freely of their time to assist users of the software; something I greatly appreciate. However, "guy needs help with installation on MacOS", seems to have descended into a debate about Apple development costs etc. which is arguably not the purpose of the group. Not saying there isn't a need for such a discussion, but this isn't the place to do it so I've locked this thread and the previous thread so we can focus the content on using PSUD II.
Thanks all for your input, I do appreciate it and find it all useful. I hope everyone understands the approach, why I've locked the threads and reason behind it, thanks.
Regards / 73
Duncan M0KGK
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The true cost of converting a windows program for use on a Mac
Duncan,
Thank you for the free software.? I have used it for many years
and appreciate the work that you have done.
To Mac Users,
I am running PSUD II version 2.2 Build 73 on my MacBookPro.? When
installing you have to allow an installation from outside the
Apple store.
I developed commercial applications for Android, Apple, Apple iOS
and Windows computers.
PSUD II is specifically written for the? Windows OSes and requires
the Win32 library (only available on a Mac running a windows
virtual machine or emulator).
The $99 cost for using the apple store is most likely not the
issue.
He would have to translate the program to a code language that is
compatible with the Apple OS.? This is not a trivial exercise and
could take months to do.
I know this because I have translated some of my windows programs
to both Android and the Apple iOS.? Programs that I use personally
and do not want to waste time converting I run on my Mac using a
Windows OS virtual machine.
Best regards,
Steve
On 5/8/2022 10:39 AM, Ian Eales via groups.io wrote:
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perhaps the mac users could take up a collection... ?
- Ian
On 5/8/2022 09:29, summers_folium_0k
via groups.io wrote:
I think it is 99 USD / year
Regards?
Rob
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The
workaround for MacOS is very straightforward. ? After
trying to open PSUD for the first time, go to System
Preferences>Security and Privacy>General tab.? You
will then have to "unlock" the pane by clicking the lock
at the left lower corner and entering your password.? I
don't recall the exact sequence, but you should be able
to then allow MacOS to run PSUD. ?
Out of
curiosity, what would it cost to be an "identified
developer"?
On Sun, May 8, 2022 at
7:02 AM Duncan Munro < duncan@...>
wrote:
It's
not an Apple exclusive I'm afraid; Windows 10 & 11
are displaying similar warnings if the software isn't
registered with them, arguably easier to work round
though.
Regards,
Duncan
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perhaps the mac users could take up a collection... ?
- Ian
On 5/8/2022 09:29, summers_folium_0k
via groups.io wrote:
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I think it is 99 USD / year
Regards?
Rob
?
The
workaround for MacOS is very straightforward. ? After
trying to open PSUD for the first time, go to System
Preferences>Security and Privacy>General tab.? You
will then have to "unlock" the pane by clicking the lock
at the left lower corner and entering your password.? I
don't recall the exact sequence, but you should be able to
then allow MacOS to run PSUD. ?
Out of
curiosity, what would it cost to be an "identified
developer"?
On Sun, May 8, 2022 at
7:02 AM Duncan Munro < duncan@...>
wrote:
It's
not an Apple exclusive I'm afraid; Windows 10 & 11 are
displaying similar warnings if the software isn't
registered with them, arguably easier to work round
though.
Regards,
Duncan
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Re: Mac won't open because developer cannot be verified
I think it is 99 USD / year
Regards?
Rob
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Am 08.05.2022 um 18:04 schrieb Chris <acheld_at_gmail_com_9bd68tgjww7574_16dadbc6@...>:
? The workaround for MacOS is very straightforward. ? After trying to open PSUD for the first time, go to System Preferences>Security and Privacy>General tab.? You will then have to "unlock" the pane by clicking the lock at the left lower corner and entering your password.? I don't recall the exact sequence, but you should be able to then allow MacOS to run PSUD. ?
Out of curiosity, what would it cost to be an "identified developer"? On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 7:02 AM Duncan Munro < duncan@...> wrote: It's not an Apple exclusive I'm afraid; Windows 10 & 11 are displaying similar warnings if the software isn't registered with them, arguably easier to work round though.
Regards,
Duncan
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Re: Mac won't open because developer cannot be verified
The workaround for MacOS is very straightforward. ? After trying to open PSUD for the first time, go to System Preferences>Security and Privacy>General tab.? You will then have to "unlock" the pane by clicking the lock at the left lower corner and entering your password.? I don't recall the exact sequence, but you should be able to then allow MacOS to run PSUD. ?
Out of curiosity, what would it cost to be an "identified developer"?
On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 7:02 AM Duncan Munro < duncan@...> wrote: It's not an Apple exclusive I'm afraid; Windows 10 & 11 are displaying similar warnings if the software isn't registered with them, arguably easier to work round though.
Regards,
Duncan
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It's not an Apple exclusive I'm afraid; Windows 10 & 11 are displaying similar warnings if the software isn't registered with them, arguably easier to work round though.
Regards,
Duncan
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Il giorno 7 mag 2022, alle ore 22:01, Pete Boser via groups.io <pboser@...> ha scritto:
?Hi,
I have a new Mac after years of PC only, and when I download the Mac version from the website I get a message saying:?
“psud2_build73” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.?macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware."
I looked back in the group and it seems like folks are not having this issue.? Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Pete
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On 5/7/2022 2:41 PM, Pete Boser via groups.io wrote: *cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.
macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware* If you are sure the software package you are installing IS genuine, if you trust Duncan does not want your secrets, if you got it directly from Duncan's site, on a legitimate network connection, then just say "Install darnit!" Last week I had a new Win10 and installed Office 2003 and PSpice 1999, and a lot of other stuff Win10 never expected to see. Windows has several errors. Files downloaded from the internet won't run without intervention; you can poke file Properties and un-check that. And program installers usually raise a warning, but you expect that. Apple wants to protect its users AND its business, so mystery files make it upset. Specific advice for Macintosh Gatekeeper warnings/blocks: Trend Micro is a well known antivirus shop. Their general strategy includes running A-V on any file of uncertain origin. Since you know who and where your PSUD installer came from, that seems excessive. You know the file is OK, and it is reasonable that Apple can't track (or can't remember) every program out there.
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Hi Pete, As background, the message comes up because I'm not a registered developer as this costs $$$'s per year and I don't charge for the software, or use advertising, so it's a cost I don't really want to soak up for no return. Here's how to work round it:?
- Download the latest file from the files area?/g/duncanampspsud/files/psud2_macos
- Open the download tray and click on psud.....dmg file which will mount and open the download image
- This is the important part -?Don't click on the psud.....app file
To open the app do the following:
- Ctrl+click on the psud.....app file to open a context menu
- Select Open from the menu
- You will get the same message about the developer and offered a choice to [Open] [Eject Disk Image] or [Cancel]
- If you don't see the [Open] option first time round, click [Cancel] and go back to Ctrl+click on the psud.....app file again, it should come up
Finally, you might want to drag the psud.....app icon over to Favourites/Apps to make it a bit more permanent. Hope this all helps. Regards, Duncan
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Re: Mac won't open because developer cannot be verified
Hi Duncan,
That's the one my Mac is running - 12.3.1.? Sorry I wasn't clear - I got that message when I downloaded the software and it wouldn't install it.
Thank you! Pete
On Saturday, May 7, 2022, 04:44:37 PM EDT, Duncan Munro <duncan@...> wrote:
Hi Pete,
Can you confirm what version of MacOS you are using? I'm just upgrading to the latest version (Monterey 12.3.1) to see if that's the problem. Also can you let me know if you are having the problem running the software of if you're experiencing the problem at the installation stage.
Regards,
Duncan
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Hi Pete,
Can you confirm what version of MacOS you are using? I'm just upgrading to the latest version (Monterey 12.3.1) to see if that's the problem. Also can you let me know if you are having the problem running the software of if you're experiencing the problem at the installation stage.
Regards,
Duncan
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Mac won't open because developer cannot be verified
Hi,
I have a new Mac after years of PC only, and when I download the Mac version from the website I get a message saying:?
“psud2_build73” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.?macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware."
I looked back in the group and it seems like folks are not having this issue.? Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Pete
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Re: Assistance with PSUD (was iOS thread)
Hi,
There's no IOS or Android versions, and none planned at this time. The routemap for PSUD3 encompasses Windows / MacOS and additionally Linux.
Regards,
Duncan
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Assistance with PSUD (was iOS thread)
IS THERE A PSUD2 VERSION FOR IPAD?
?Thanks in advance.
Peace,
DrRick
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Re: Problem downloading .psu example files
I install psu designer on Linux with Playonlinux, the program starts and simulates but the graph does not appear, how did you solve?
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Re: PSUD possible issue on corner case power supply
Thanks to both Duncan and Paul, that's exactly what the sim indicates.? Well, that sure showed me for trying to take a shortcut.? I now have a CRC network which works like a charm.
Tom's MOV suggestion is a good one as well - powering the system off would present an open circuit (modulo transformer impedance) to the choke so it would return a flyback voltage.? Would a reverse-biased diode, such as used across relay coils, also work when placed between the choke input and ground?? From stored energy = LI^2/2 I get about 60 millijoules for a 60 mH choke filtering 1.4 amps, so as long as one doesn't get too energetic with the power switch a 1N400x should be capable of dealing with this, yes?
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Re: PSUD possible issue on corner case power supply
Scratch the reverse-biased diode idea: adding a tiny capacitor (10 nF) before the choke and looking at the voltage shows the choke input goes below zero by about a diode drop at the zero-crossing of line power.? Not for long, 100 or 200 microseconds each cycle, but enough to make a mess.
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Re: INPUT CHOKE FOR FILAMENTS DHT
Sorry Duncan, tried again with 1uF and works.
Bst rgds
Felipe
Hi,
There was a thread on something similar only a few days ago where the contributors gave some good tips on choke input supplies ->? /g/duncanampspsud/topic/90581045
Regards,
Duncan
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Re: INPUT CHOKE FOR FILAMENTS DHT
Hi Duncan,
Yes I did see it, I tried to insert a small between the bridge rectifier & the choke input but PSUDII still open the window with exceeded PIV), also I don't know how to put a MOV (and waht value?) in PSUDII?
Thanks & regards
Felipe
Hi,
There was a thread on something similar only a few days ago where the contributors gave some good tips on choke input supplies ->? /g/duncanampspsud/topic/90581045
Regards,
Duncan
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Re: INPUT CHOKE FOR FILAMENTS DHT
Hi, There was a thread on something similar only a few days ago where the contributors gave some good tips on choke input supplies ->? /g/duncanampspsud/topic/90581045Regards, Duncan
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Paul Reid
DrRick