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Swing up tool holder? #MISC #LATHES #MODS


 

Charlie suggested I post my question here as well as the 7x12 forum.? I'm thinking about making a swing-up tool holder to facilitate threading ops and am wondering if any folks here have made one, and, if so, if they have any "I'd do it differently next time" observations.

Thanks!

Mark


 

Hello Marc
I have read your post and can initially provide photos of both external and internal swinging tool holders
that I made several years ago.
I am currently writing an article for Home Shop machinist how I constructed this tooling.
Basically it?s a common tool holder and 2 x different blocks that slide into the QCTP Quick change tool holder.
The blocks are fitted with roller bearings and toolholders swing on a pivot pin entering these bearings.
As other projects have got in the way recently, I admit my written article has not got to far along.
In the meantime attaching some photos to give you some ideas of my tooling.
As a footnote, this tooling worked very well, in the past, but with the current use of the RELS with auto threading and auto retract of the tool,
this tooling has now for me become redundant.
If i can help you further let me know, I do have drawings available I can send in pdf format if needed.


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John


 

Hi John,

The roller bearings are a good idea.? Thank you for the offer of PDFs, but, since I'm using the Norman style QCTP, the design would have to be modified quite a bit.? Probably easier to roll my own, so to speak.

-Mark


 

Hi John , Great tool could I have a copy of the drawings also. Cheers Allen


Jonathan Mackenzie
 

Would love to have a copy of your pdf in the files section of the MiniLathes group ( /g/Mini-Lathes/ ) - we are building out a good library of plans there.

Jonathan

On Sunday, April 4, 2021, 9:17:56 PM PDT, John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:





Hello Marc
I have read your post and can initially provide photos of both external and internal swinging tool holders
that I made several years ago.
I am currently writing an article for Home Shop machinist how I constructed this tooling.
Basically it?s a common tool holder and 2 x different blocks that slide into the QCTP Quick change tool holder.
The blocks are fitted with roller bearings and toolholders swing on a pivot pin entering these bearings.
As other projects have got in the way recently, I admit my written article has not got to far along.
In the meantime attaching some photos to give you some ideas of my tooling.
As a footnote, this tooling worked very well, in the past, but with the current use of the RELS with auto threading and auto retract of the tool,
this tooling has now for me become redundant.
If i can help you further let me know, I do have drawings available I can send in pdf format if needed.


--
John


 

John, you could put the .pdf in the files here in digitalhobbyist files also. I do want them and if you do not mind
I could post them to the mini lathe group. I have not been banned yet.

Ralph

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 4:04 PM Jonathan Mackenzie via <jonathanmackenzie=[email protected]> wrote:

Would love to have a copy of your pdf in the files section of the MiniLathes group ( /g/Mini-Lathes/ ) - we are building out a good library of plans there.

Jonathan






On Sunday, April 4, 2021, 9:17:56 PM PDT, John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:





Hello Marc
I have read your post and can initially provide photos of both external and internal swinging tool holders
that I made several years ago.
I am currently writing an article for Home Shop machinist how I constructed this tooling.
Basically it?s a common tool holder and 2 x different blocks that slide into the QCTP Quick change tool holder.
The blocks are fitted with roller bearings and toolholders swing on a pivot pin entering these bearings.
As other projects have got in the way recently, I admit my written article has not got to far along.
In the meantime attaching some photos to give you some ideas of my tooling.
As a footnote, this tooling worked very well, in the past, but with the current use of the RELS with auto threading and auto retract of the tool,
this tooling has now for me become redundant.
If i can help you further let me know, I do have drawings available I can send in pdf format if needed.


--
John








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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


 

Hi, John,

I had a couple of other photos that you had sent me at the time that I thought might be of interest...

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Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA

SATTINGER¡¯S LAW: It works better if you plug it in.


 

I will post the pdf files of the swinging tool holder into digitalhobbyist later this week.
Thanks for all of your interest.

John Lindo

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 04:12, CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:
Hi, John,

I had a couple of other photos that you had sent me at the time that I thought might be of interest...

? ?

--
Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA

SATTINGER¡¯S LAW: It works better if you plug it in.


--
John


 

I have been advised by several digitalhobbyist forum members to place all relevant drawing information?in reference to the swinging tool holder in the digitalhobbyist files section.?
This is what I will do in pdf format during this week.
I do not want to share information with the 7 x mini lathe forum, but any serious 7 x mini lathe forum members are very welcome to join my group and hopefully they will gain more knowledge with a range of posts and hashtags covering most subjects that fit our particular?criteria and hobbies.
Naturally all new member postings will need to be moderated a few times, no different to any other hundreds?of internet forums.
But this was why I created the digitalhobbyist to allow access and share knowledge in this new digital age we
are living in, and by sharing ideas and thoughts of some of the same "centuries" old questions, "how do we make the manufacturing?of support tooling etc etc in our tool sheds using basic?tools? "?

My swinging tool holder was based on the use of a 250-100 QCTP, so naturally a scaling?down for users
of a 250-000 will be required on the dovetail block area and or scaling up or altering to suit each?
user's choice of toolpost. I do not use a compound slide, but those that do then it should not affect the design.
So back to the "drawing board" as they say, and now I am finishing off the tool holder dimensioning details making it
an easy and fun tool to make for digitalhobbyist forum members.
As a footnote the?swinging toolholder principle is not a new idea, I was?using them on Alfred Herbert capstan lathes
and their?very ingenious automatic die heads back in 1970?s.?

Stay well and mostly be happy in your hobbies and interests.
John


On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 05:51, John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:
I will post the pdf files of the swinging tool holder into digitalhobbyist later this week.
Thanks for all of your interest.

John Lindo

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 04:12, CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:
Hi, John,

I had a couple of other photos that you had sent me at the time that I thought might be of interest...

? ?

--
Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA

SATTINGER¡¯S LAW: It works better if you plug it in.


--
John


 

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On 4/5/2021 8:51 PM, John Lindo wrote:

I will post the pdf files of the swinging tool holder into digitalhobbyist later this week.
Thanks for all of your interest.

John Lindo

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 04:12, CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:
Hi, John,

I had a couple of other photos that you had sent me at the time that I thought might be of interest...


 

Thanks John, the motorized Z drive system I am close to implementing AtomicELS?does not have a X component.

So the swinging?tool holder is high on my list.

I hope to modify AtomicELS for X but that would require a lot of help from my friends.

Once I get motorized X I will install RELS. I'd also like to try some of the newer versions from Oleg's ELS.

Ralph

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:54 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

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On 4/5/2021 8:51 PM, John Lindo wrote:
I will post the pdf files of the swinging tool holder into digitalhobbyist later this week.
Thanks for all of your interest.

John Lindo

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 04:12, CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:
Hi, John,

I had a couple of other photos that you had sent me at the time that I thought might be of interest...


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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


 

I have added two files in the Files section.
Generic dimensioning as each? lathe and toolost holder will be different
I useed a 626Z bearing.
Any extra info required then please post.

--
John


 

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On 4/8/2021 12:00 AM, John Lindo wrote:

I have added two files in the Files section.
Generic dimensioning as each? lathe and toolost holder will be different
I useed a 626Z bearing.
Any extra info required then please post.

--
John